(05-18-2014 09:55 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-18-2014 01:46 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 07:51 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 02:55 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-17-2014 02:33 PM)john01992 Wrote:  uconn fans trying to down play the importance of all time wins & accomplishments from before the 80s

#not suprised

kentucky, ucla, michigan state, kansas, syracuse, duke, north carolina, uconn, louisville, indiana.

that is the top 10 (in no particular order) that the overwhelming majority of CBB fans seem to agree with. can't we just call it a day & leave it at that?

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? As the only UConn fan who's posted here, I questioned why Wisconsin hasn't been recognized. All of their championships not only came before the 1980's, they came before the 1950's.

But three of them were Helms...and 1 was when the NCAA was suspect and it was only 8 teams. I think Wisconsin should be in the Top 20-25 but not the Top 10.

For Ken Before Boeheim Cuse was anywhere from Nationally good to a few periods of awful. Roy Danforth took Syracuse to the Final Four in 1975. The school's modern era of greatness started with Dave Bing in the early/mid 60's. They have had 20+ wins every year from about 1970 on with just a couple exceptions at 19 wins and one bad NIT team at 16-13.

I understand that Wisconsin's claim to fame comes from the pre-tournament, but Helms is retry much all we have from that period. And if Helms titles don't count, how is Syracuse in the conversation? Without Helms, they have only one title. How can a program with just one title be an all time great program?

Just trying to define what we're talking about here.

Well UConn fans are so quick to dismiss Helms...I think Syracuse makes Top 10 lists for Programs for lots of other things as discussed above.

I'm the UConn guy and I'm the one who brought Helms into the conversation. So, why are you picking on me? You must have a bias against UConn fans.

I was defending the use of Helms titles against someone who questioned their relevance.

My point in raising the question about Syracuse was to take a program that obviously belongs among the elite and to use them to show why helms titles are relevant.

You shouldn't be so thin skinned.