(11-09-2013 08:30 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  So you're denying he led with his head... If thats the case there is not talking with you so I'll conceed you're right..

The refs screwed UMass who would have otherwise easily beaten Buffalo and Neutz phantom concussion had nothing to do with a hit to the head..

I am denying that Tharpe lead with his head. At 25 seconds, it is quite clear the contact is initiated with the shoulder.

Please do not suggest that I or anyone else thinks that UMass easily would have won. I don't see where anyone wrote that or said it anywhere. If there is a place I missed, please let me know. I would like to have a discussion with them.

That being said, the game would have been more interesting and a lot more close if the UB didn't benefit from many terrible calls in the first half. I even posted on this site during the game that UB was better than UMass and didn't need the ref's help to win. That they got the help was very frustrating to me. Just as I'm sure you'll concede that Alabama is better than UB and doesn't need the help of the refs to beat the Bulls. However, if that game happened and the SEC refs pulled the same crap against UB that they did UMass, I think UB fans would be upset.

Lastly, once again, and most importantly, please DO NOT suggest that ANYONE thinks it was a phantom concussion. This is the second time you have done so, and frankly, it is disgusting and unbecoming of a MAC football fan.

If you want to have an adult conversation about this where we look at the video and debate whether or not it was a hit to the head, let me know. In order to do so, we need to look at other theories, as you suggested. One was provided, with evidence that concussions happen with no contact while one is catching a ball, unless a baserunner ran out to shallow left field to tackle Koskie.

If you do not want to have an adult conversation and instead want to continue to ignore what I post and instead put words in my mouth, I have nothing left to say.

EDIT- 2 last things to say actually. Once again, I wish Alex a speedy recovery. Also, I wish UB a lot of luck on their quest for a MAC Championship.