(05-26-2013 12:11 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 10:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 10:17 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(05-25-2013 10:12 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Big thing to remember with the Orange Bowl is that it picks AFTER the access bowls get their teams (plus the Sugar/playoff bowls). Let's say we have the following in a year when the Peach/Fiesta are semi-finals (using committee ranking):

1. Florida
2. USC
3. Ohio State
4. Florida State
5. Georgia
6. LSU
7. Michigan
8. Virginia Tech
9. Notre Dame


In that set-up, Florida would be in the playoff, Georgia in the Sugar Bowl, and LSU in the Cotton (the only remaining access bowl) before the Orange Bowl would take its 2nd team. That would leave it as Notre Dame vs. Virginia Tech.

OB only picks after Sugar/Rose and semifinals. All contract bowls pick before access bowls.

Actually, this scenario is almost bad for Notre Dame....
Yeah, Florida in playoff, Georgia in Sugar, and LSU would be in the Orange.
Michigan would be in Rose to play P12 team
Georgia in Sugar to play B12 team
playoffs FSU/Florida, Ohio St/USC
Orange Va Tech/LSU
Notre Dame would be in the Cotton Bowl playing G5 team.

If ND were ranked #10 instead of #9, and the #9 team were a SEC or Big Ten team, ND would be OUT of the BCS altogether.

Wouldn't ND also be out if #9 was an ACC team too?

My understanding is that in this scenario, a Notre Dame team ranked #10 could only possibly be eligible for one slot - opposite a G5 opponent in the Cotton Bowl. If #9 was a PAC team that would not affect ND because that team would play in the Rose, and likewise if #9 was a Big 12 team that would not affect ND since that team would play in the Sugar. On the other hand, either a B1G or SEC team ranked #9 would affect ND, because since they are ranked ahead of ND, they would take the Cotton slot opposite the G5 team, leaving ND out in the cold. But, why is this also not true of an ACC team ranked #9?

I don't see any playoff/BCS bowl rule that would allow ND to jump the ACC team, and to my understanding the Notre Dame/ACC agreement that allows a bowl to take ND over an ACC team if ND is close to the ACC team in wins/losses only applies to (a) ACC-affiliated bowls, i.e., bowls with a specific tie-in to the ACC, and (b) lesser, non-BCS bowls. Since the Cotton is neither a lesser bowl nor an ACC-affiliated bowl, it would not be affected by the ACC/ND bowl sharing agreement. So what am I missing here?

Yeah you are right, ACC team would knock ND out as well. Basically the only ones at 9 that could "save" ND there would be Pac 12(going to Rose to replace #2 USC), or Big 12(going to Sugar)- unless the Big 12 team ranked #9 was not the champion.