I was trying to figure out what the Bucs would be like if they hadn't dropped football.

Here's what I came up with-

Program would still be in the SoCon.

SoCon might have become a 2-bid league during the years where ASU and Davidson made runs to win at large bids. Certainly would have been able to have made a stronger case.

But 2004 would have been ETSU's last men's basketball NCAA appearance.

Lady Bucs would never have gone to the NCAAs. Karen Kemp would not be the coach.

If hired (if ETSU hadn't dropped football, the president who hired David Mullins would not be around) Murry Bartow would have been fired after his 7-19 season.

If not hired, a stronger coach would have told Tim Smith to go for three on ETSU's last possession to send the game into OT rather than somehow make a more egregious mistake against Cincinnati than he did the year before.

More media coverage to ETSU sports.

ETSU men's basketball probably would not have made the NCAAs after 2004 unless a super coach was found to replace Bartow.

The basketball coach could very well have been named Patsos after DeChellis left.

If it was named Patsos, he would not be the coach at ETSU today.

There might be an odd chance the coach would be named Shulman.

The Minidome would still be able to seat 12,000.

The Minidome would be called Memorial Center instead of the name nobody can remember that was done for absolutely no revenue.

Baseball would be stronger and playing in a rebuilt Mooney Field.

We would not have soccer.

Fred Warren would have retired.

ETSU would still pretty much have a mediocre sports program without some of the riches earned by playing in a remedial conference.

But it would be a lot easier to build that program now to something along the lines of more of a major than a mid.