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(07-13-2017 08:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  I live just south of the Colorado River near Fruita, CO, about halfway between town and Colorado National Monument. Consult Google Earth or a Rand McNally Road Atlas and note how open and undeveloped it is around where I live, tens of miles in just about every direction. A mile isn't any longer here than back east, but we seem to have a lot more of them -- lots of "in-between" is what appeals to me. To quote Aldo Leopold, "Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?"

What do you do for a living out there?

I live in Charlotte, but work in Highlands Ranch CO often (denver). Main office. Beautiful place.
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(07-12-2017 01:50 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:24 PM)MJG Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:03 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Traverse City, Michigan

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No better place in the Summer

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Maybe Harbor Springs

Great place!!! Always dock there, Charlevoix, Mackinac Island, and Grand Haven for a few days.
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(07-13-2017 09:05 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  I live just south of the Colorado River near Fruita, CO, about halfway between town and Colorado National Monument. Consult Google Earth or a Rand McNally Road Atlas and note how open and undeveloped it is around where I live, tens of miles in just about every direction. A mile isn't any longer here than back east, but we seem to have a lot more of them -- lots of "in-between" is what appeals to me. To quote Aldo Leopold, "Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?"

What do you do for a living out there?

Well, I'm retired, so this morning I grabbed my Nikon and went for a hike.

In my working life, I was a career employee of the National Park Service. I retired as Chief Ranger at Colorado National Monument in 1994. Before that I was Chief Ranger at Badlands NP in SD, a District Ranger at Theodore Roosevelt NP in ND, and a ranger on the Natchez Trace Parkway in MS and at the Grand Canyon in AZ.

Following a two-day retirement, I ruined a perfectly good woodworking hobby by working another nine years for a local custom cabinet manufacturer, first as a craftsman building special projects and later as the company's production planner.

In August, my wife and I will be volunteering for two weeks as a docent at the Museum of the National Park Ranger in Yellowstone. Housing is provided and we'll have four days off in the middle of our tour to immerse ourselves in the park's 2.2 million acres. Life is tough.
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(07-13-2017 08:58 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:26 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 04:18 PM)colohank Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 10:04 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  You Texas/NM folks have nothing on the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Great Smoky Mountains of North Carolina. 05-stirthepot

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Those are some nice hills, for sure, but we've got mountains out here that are almost two miles higher in elevation than Mt. Mitchell. Imagine 54 peaks that are 14,000 or more above sea level, and another 900 or so above 13,000 feet.

I'm lucky. A twenty-minute walk from my house gets me to the boundary of a national monument and adjacent national conservation area that total about 100,000 acres. A mile and half drive the other way gets me to a Kroger store.
Yeah, they're bigger out there but IMHO they aren't as beautiful. Bigger=/ Better. Something just doesn't seem right about not having trees covering them. Those fall days on the Blue Ridge are a sight to bwhold.

On the other hand Colorado weather is way, way better, especially in summer. My wife and I are considering moving out there after our parents pass. They're basically what's keeping us in NC. Don't get me wrong I love them all.

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Our mountains have trees at lower elevations, so we have choices. This a simplification, because the environment is more diverse, but at 6,000 feet, Douglas Fir and, where I live, Pinon Pine. At 7,000 feet, Ponderosa Pine. At 8,000-9,000 feet, Aspen groves (glorious in the fall). A bit higher, Subalpine Fir and Englemann Spruce. Above 12,000 feet or so, rock. Please don't misinterpret my remarks about the Smokys and the Blue Ridge. I spent childhood summers in western NC, near Brevard. Loved the scenery and that wonderful Biltmore ice cream. I also recall a stream on Mt. Pisgah where the water flowed 50 yards or so over a sloping sluiceway of water-polished rock. We'd sew washcloths on the seats of our bathing suits so abrasion wouldn't wear holes in them and ride the swift current down into an impossibly cold plunge basin. Rinse and repeat. Bare Rock Slide, we called it. I wonder if it's still pristine or if it's been trashed by overuse?

I live just south of the Colorado River near Fruita, CO, about halfway between town and Colorado National Monument. Consult Google Earth or a Rand McNally Road Atlas and note how open and undeveloped it is around where I live, tens of miles in just about every direction. A mile isn't any longer here than back east, but we seem to have a lot more of them -- lots of "in-between" is what appeals to me. To quote Aldo Leopold, "Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?"

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Thanks for the picture of the Sliding Rock. I see they've put up a fence there, so it's more developed than I remember. Also way more crowded.
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RE: favorite US city to visit
(07-13-2017 11:54 AM)colohank Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:05 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  I live just south of the Colorado River near Fruita, CO, about halfway between town and Colorado National Monument. Consult Google Earth or a Rand McNally Road Atlas and note how open and undeveloped it is around where I live, tens of miles in just about every direction. A mile isn't any longer here than back east, but we seem to have a lot more of them -- lots of "in-between" is what appeals to me. To quote Aldo Leopold, "Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?"

What do you do for a living out there?

Well, I'm retired, so this morning I grabbed my Nikon and went for a hike.

In my working life, I was a career employee of the National Park Service. I retired as Chief Ranger at Colorado National Monument in 1994. Before that I was Chief Ranger at Badlands NP in SD, a District Ranger at Theodore Roosevelt NP in ND, and a ranger on the Natchez Trace Parkway in MS and at the Grand Canyon in AZ.

Following a two-day retirement, I ruined a perfectly good woodworking hobby by working another nine years for a local custom cabinet manufacturer, first as a craftsman building special projects and later as the company's production planner.

In August, my wife and I will be volunteering for two weeks as a docent at the Museum of the National Park Ranger in Yellowstone. Housing is provided and we'll have four days off in the middle of our tour to immerse ourselves in the park's 2.2 million acres. Life is tough.

Good for you! That's awesome.
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RE: favorite US city to visit
(07-13-2017 12:20 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 11:54 AM)colohank Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:05 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  I live just south of the Colorado River near Fruita, CO, about halfway between town and Colorado National Monument. Consult Google Earth or a Rand McNally Road Atlas and note how open and undeveloped it is around where I live, tens of miles in just about every direction. A mile isn't any longer here than back east, but we seem to have a lot more of them -- lots of "in-between" is what appeals to me. To quote Aldo Leopold, "Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?"

What do you do for a living out there?

Well, I'm retired, so this morning I grabbed my Nikon and went for a hike.

In my working life, I was a career employee of the National Park Service. I retired as Chief Ranger at Colorado National Monument in 1994. Before that I was Chief Ranger at Badlands NP in SD, a District Ranger at Theodore Roosevelt NP in ND, and a ranger on the Natchez Trace Parkway in MS and at the Grand Canyon in AZ.

Following a two-day retirement, I ruined a perfectly good woodworking hobby by working another nine years for a local custom cabinet manufacturer, first as a craftsman building special projects and later as the company's production planner.

In August, my wife and I will be volunteering for two weeks as a docent at the Museum of the National Park Ranger in Yellowstone. Housing is provided and we'll have four days off in the middle of our tour to immerse ourselves in the park's 2.2 million acres. Life is tough.

Good for you! That's awesome.

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(06-27-2017 10:23 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  It's the summer so.....

My top 5:
1. NYC - greatest city in the world. I'd live there if I had enough money.
2. NOLA - short flight from Dallas. A city with soul, great food and nightlife.
3. Seattle - love the vibe and such a beautiful city.
4. SF - quirky, great and full of interesting people.
5. Denver - scenery and stuff.
Memphis. Because I like greasy food...and walking through filthy rat infested streets with garbage all around... the nauseating smell of the Mississippi River... the sense of dread...knowing that as I round each corner someone could jump out of one of Memphis boarded up row house and stab my azz...
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(07-13-2017 03:23 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 10:23 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  It's the summer so.....

My top 5:
1. NYC - greatest city in the world. I'd live there if I had enough money.
2. NOLA - short flight from Dallas. A city with soul, great food and nightlife.
3. Seattle - love the vibe and such a beautiful city.
4. SF - quirky, great and full of interesting people.
5. Denver - scenery and stuff.
Memphis. Because I like greasy food...and walking through filthy rat infested streets with garbage all around... the nauseating smell of the Mississippi River... the sense of dread...knowing that as I round each corner someone could jump out of one of Memphis boarded up row house and stab my azz...

God, you're gonna LOVE New Orleans...07-coffee3
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NYC and Chicago
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(07-09-2017 02:27 PM)WhyIsTheRumGone Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 09:48 AM)fastbow Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 07:36 AM)panama Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 10:00 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(07-06-2017 10:31 PM)panama Wrote:  Excluding Atlanta

Savannah
San Antonio
Ponte Vedra, FL
Chicago
Houston
Chattanooga

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Please don't tell me you think ATL is a great place to visit (I know, lived there). Take 285 and get the hell through. Same with Houston.

But agree on the others, plus add Charleston, Denver and Telluride (most amazing place I have seen). Bend OR is next...
Atlanta receives 35 million visitors per year. If you lived here and didn't like it you were doing it all wrong. 03-wink

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Four of which leave the airport by choice.

I like the suburbs of Atlanta, but despise the city itself.

Places like Woodstock and Roswell are cool. But Atlanta proper? I'd rather not sit in bumper to bumper traffic for hours to go hang out in the extremely overrated Buckhead. Give me a small, clean city like Charlotte all day long over Atlanta.
You know nothing about Atlanta. The suburbs are bumper to bumper traffic as well every single day.

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(07-09-2017 03:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
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(07-09-2017 07:36 AM)panama Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 10:00 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  Please don't tell me you think ATL is a great place to visit (I know, lived there). Take 285 and get the hell through. Same with Houston.

But agree on the others, plus add Charleston, Denver and Telluride (most amazing place I have seen). Bend OR is next...
Atlanta receives 35 million visitors per year. If you lived here and didn't like it you were doing it all wrong. 03-wink

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Four of which leave the airport by choice.

I like the suburbs of Atlanta, but despise the city itself.

Places like Woodstock and Roswell are cool. But Atlanta proper? I'd rather not sit in bumper to bumper traffic for hours to go hang out in the extremely overrated Buckhead. Give me a small, clean city like Charlotte all day long over Atlanta.

Grew up in Memphis & it was home. Moved to Atlanta & didn't like it. Moved to Seattle, liked it. Moved back to Atlanta, didn't like it. Total of 39 yrs in Atlanta/Cobb/N Fulton & never liked it really. Lots to do, sure, but the traffic is awful, metro planning is awful. Live in "way out" Coweta Co/Newnan area which is considered metro now due to Atlanta sprawl, & really like this area with virtually no traffic & still only 40 mins to the airport. Biggest thing happening down here is high school FB with Hotlanta close enough for NFL, NBA, MLB, concerts etc when the urge hits. But Atlanta, yep, guess I've done it wrong for decades.....
SMH...well you seem to to found a nice place that uiur ancient bones enjoy.

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(07-09-2017 04:26 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 03:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 07:36 AM)panama Wrote:  
(07-08-2017 10:00 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(07-06-2017 10:31 PM)panama Wrote:  Excluding Atlanta

Savannah
San Antonio
Ponte Vedra, FL
Chicago
Houston
Chattanooga

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Please don't tell me you think ATL is a great place to visit (I know, lived there). Take 285 and get the hell through. Same with Houston.

But agree on the others, plus add Charleston, Denver and Telluride (most amazing place I have seen). Bend OR is next...
Atlanta receives 35 million visitors per year. If you lived here and didn't like it you were doing it all wrong. 03-wink

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that's also the problem, though...traffic and long lines=Atlanta

And they all left disappointed. Joke that ATL has more "visitors" than Vegas and LA. Visitors definitely doesn't equate to "favorite city".
The number in 2016 was 50 million visitors and no they were not transferring at the airport.

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any ruin porn fanatics out there? i could walk around detroit all day. blew my mind. being in the packard plant (see sig pic) was comparable to seeing the grand canyon for me. i would have loved to get inside that ole' train station

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i would love to go to gary and east st louis. and paterson. i've been to cairo and that's as close as i've been to being uncomfortable, but i'm also a giant p*ssy.
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(07-12-2017 01:46 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:24 PM)MJG Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:03 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Traverse City, Michigan

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No better place in the Summer

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You need to venture out more for your summers.

There is a reason everyone in the north travels south for Spring Break, Summer vacation and Fall breaks. From the Outer Banks, to Charleston, Savannah, Destin, etc. Then check out all the visitor license plates.
I live in Myrtle Beach used to live in Savannah. The summer heat is oppressive water temperature too high second half of summer. I took my wife who is from SC there she loved it. The water stays cold enough to cool you off.
We could stay at the beach all day. A couple hours on a beach in the Southeast with that bath water is enough.



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(07-13-2017 08:07 PM)Lush Wrote:  any ruin porn fanatics out there? i could walk around detroit all day. blew my mind. being in the packard plant (see sig pic) was comparable to seeing the grand canyon for me. i would have loved to get inside that ole' train station

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i would love to go to gary and east st louis. and paterson. i've been to cairo and that's as close as i've been to being uncomfortable, but i'm also a giant p*ssy.

Definitely speaking my language here, but I have so few opportunities to explore these type of locales. My brother and I used to do a ton of it in Cincinnati when we visited there, albeit on a smaller scale. South Fairmont had some great spots, and the abandoned neighborhood (bunch of larger apartments) on the hillside below Christ Hospital was crazy. Got to explore the factory where Rheingeist is now just before they opened. Fortunately (I suppose), that's changing.

Detroit is ground zero. I would have been geeked. Something tells me Dayton will have plenty of opportunity for exploration over the next decade......
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you talking glencoe. my buddy drove me around there once, never got boots on the ground. it looked heavenly. christ bought the land and leveled the hood. dayton will probably get there, but i hope not. it's a gem of a city. i've never even been there but it's proximity wants me to see it survive. speaking of surviving, hamilton hasn't been aware it's been dead for 50 years and now it's showing signs of reanimation.

there's some buildings along the trainyard in millvale i'd like to get in. and the crosley building.
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(07-13-2017 07:40 PM)panama Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 03:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
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(07-09-2017 07:36 AM)panama Wrote:  Atlanta receives 35 million visitors per year. If you lived here and didn't like it you were doing it all wrong. 03-wink

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Four of which leave the airport by choice.

I like the suburbs of Atlanta, but despise the city itself.

Places like Woodstock and Roswell are cool. But Atlanta proper? I'd rather not sit in bumper to bumper traffic for hours to go hang out in the extremely overrated Buckhead. Give me a small, clean city like Charlotte all day long over Atlanta.

Grew up in Memphis & it was home. Moved to Atlanta & didn't like it. Moved to Seattle, liked it. Moved back to Atlanta, didn't like it. Total of 39 yrs in Atlanta/Cobb/N Fulton & never liked it really. Lots to do, sure, but the traffic is awful, metro planning is awful. Live in "way out" Coweta Co/Newnan area which is considered metro now due to Atlanta sprawl, & really like this area with virtually no traffic & still only 40 mins to the airport. Biggest thing happening down here is high school FB with Hotlanta close enough for NFL, NBA, MLB, concerts etc when the urge hits. But Atlanta, yep, guess I've done it wrong for decades.....
SMH...well you seem to to found a nice place that uiur ancient bones enjoy.

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Yep, aside from having to commute to northside ATL - my bones when young would have enjoyed this area too. ATL is a mess - traffic, government, politics, poor schools - hard to find much good about living in ATL if you enjoy the outdoors, privacy, organization, low crime, low costs....etc, etc. And this from someone with years of experience in the area.
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(07-13-2017 11:54 AM)colohank Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:05 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 08:44 AM)colohank Wrote:  I live just south of the Colorado River near Fruita, CO, about halfway between town and Colorado National Monument. Consult Google Earth or a Rand McNally Road Atlas and note how open and undeveloped it is around where I live, tens of miles in just about every direction. A mile isn't any longer here than back east, but we seem to have a lot more of them -- lots of "in-between" is what appeals to me. To quote Aldo Leopold, "Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?"

What do you do for a living out there?

Well, I'm retired, so this morning I grabbed my Nikon and went for a hike.

In my working life, I was a career employee of the National Park Service. I retired as Chief Ranger at Colorado National Monument in 1994. Before that I was Chief Ranger at Badlands NP in SD, a District Ranger at Theodore Roosevelt NP in ND, and a ranger on the Natchez Trace Parkway in MS and at the Grand Canyon in AZ.

Following a two-day retirement, I ruined a perfectly good woodworking hobby by working another nine years for a local custom cabinet manufacturer, first as a craftsman building special projects and later as the company's production planner.

In August, my wife and I will be volunteering for two weeks as a docent at the Museum of the National Park Ranger in Yellowstone. Housing is provided and we'll have four days off in the middle of our tour to immerse ourselves in the park's 2.2 million acres. Life is tough.

And that sir is a good life. 04-cheers
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Big Detroit ruins fan. There's a guy on youtube with a channel all about his travels around town filming the various stuff. It's wild and I get glued going down the rabbit hole some nights but I am also saddened to see so many beautiful treasures just wasting away.
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(07-13-2017 08:13 PM)MJG Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:46 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:24 PM)MJG Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 01:03 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Traverse City, Michigan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DuFujGCswU
No better place in the Summer

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You need to venture out more for your summers.

There is a reason everyone in the north travels south for Spring Break, Summer vacation and Fall breaks. From the Outer Banks, to Charleston, Savannah, Destin, etc. Then check out all the visitor license plates.
I live in Myrtle Beach used to live in Savannah. The summer heat is oppressive water temperature too high second half of summer. I took my wife who is from SC there she loved it. The water stays cold enough to cool you off.
We could stay at the beach all day. A couple hours on a beach in the Southeast with that bath water is enough.



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Here's part of Michigan, a lot of people don't know about

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