(08-27-2016 01:19 AM)invisiblehand Wrote: (08-26-2016 06:01 PM)Kandy Atz Wrote: (08-26-2016 05:26 PM)invisiblehand Wrote: Q: Legitimate claims to national championships for SMU?
A: Zero.
Just as legitimate as any other claims under this ridiculous bowl system that has sportswriters and coaches decide who is the best. Heck, TCU claims a National Championship in 1935 and they lost to SMU.
1935 Matty Bell - Berryman, Dickinson, Houlgate, and Sagarin Ratings - 12–1
1981 Ron Meyer - National Championship Foundation 10–1
1982 Bobby Collins - Helms Athletic Foundation - 11–0–1
Total National Championships: 3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_fo...sion_I_FBS
I'm well aware of the fact that teams claim national championships that don't logically belong to them. SMU was beaten in their bowl game in 1935. And the 80's were the pony excess years so I'll negate those as well. Especially since the polls SMOO is citing aren't either of the major ones that existed at the time.
Be sure and negate a majority of national championships from at least the 70s forward, as recruiting and extra benefit violations have been rampant at many schools for decades. Or is it just SMU that gets singled out?
Joe Pa was protecting a child molester, does his championship in 82 count?
What about the following:
Miami (NCAA violations between 1985 - 1994); NC claimed: 86, 87, 88, 89 , 90, 91
OU (violations between 1953, 72, 1983 - 1986, 2005 - 2006); NC claimed: 53, 85, 86
Clemson (Violations between 1977 - 1982); NC claimed: 81
Nebraska (Violations between 1983, 1986, 2007 - 2010); NC claimed: 82, 83, 84
Southern California (Violations between 1952 - 1956, 1957 - 1958, 1971 - 1979, 1983 - 1985, 1996 - 1998, 2004 - 2005) NC claimed: 72, 74, 76, 78, 79, 02, 03, 04,
That is just a handful from
the list. It seems strange that people are willing to place an asterisk next to SMUs years, or "negate" them as you said, but it never is the case for anyone else.