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RE: Is the 16 team conference dead?
(01-27-2016 04:16 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  it depends on which conference you're talking about....

I could definitely see the B1G and SEC growing to 20 team or larger conferences.

The ACC could go to 16 or 18 with a network

The PAC 12 has the hardest road to expansion....

I also think 10 team conferences with a championship game might appeal to some of the G5 schools

Let's say their is a modest amount of P5 expansion and the SBC stays at 10.

AAC/MAC/MWC carve up CUSA like a turkey dinner. CUSA has to add NMSU and UMass just to get back to 10 FB playing schools.

I don't think there is enough value or rational to create new G5 leagues but the market is going to force some downsizing at the bottom.
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RE: Is the 16 team conference dead?
(01-27-2016 05:00 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 04:16 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  it depends on which conference you're talking about....

I could definitely see the B1G and SEC growing to 20 team or larger conferences.

The ACC could go to 16 or 18 with a network

The PAC 12 has the hardest road to expansion....

I also think 10 team conferences with a championship game might appeal to some of the G5 schools

Let's say their is a modest amount of P5 expansion and the SBC stays at 10.

AAC/MAC/MWC carve up CUSA like a turkey dinner. CUSA has to add NMSU and UMass just to get back to 10 FB playing schools.

I don't think there is enough value or rational to create new G5 leagues but the market is going to force some downsizing at the bottom.

Once Univ. of Idaho moves down to FCS, a few more will follow.
01-27-2016 05:09 PM
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RE: Is the 16 team conference dead?
(01-27-2016 05:09 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 05:00 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(01-27-2016 04:16 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  it depends on which conference you're talking about....

I could definitely see the B1G and SEC growing to 20 team or larger conferences.

The ACC could go to 16 or 18 with a network

The PAC 12 has the hardest road to expansion....

I also think 10 team conferences with a championship game might appeal to some of the G5 schools

Let's say their is a modest amount of P5 expansion and the SBC stays at 10.

AAC/MAC/MWC carve up CUSA like a turkey dinner. CUSA has to add NMSU and UMass just to get back to 10 FB playing schools.

I don't think there is enough value or rational to create new G5 leagues but the market is going to force some downsizing at the bottom.

Once Univ. of Idaho moves down to FCS, a few more will follow.

I dunno. I think NMSU is a survivor and UMass has an NFL stadium to work with.

ULM and EMU should move down but they won't do it.
01-27-2016 05:15 PM
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RE: Is the 16 team conference dead?
(01-26-2016 12:49 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  In the last round of realignment no conference made it to the mythical ideal 16 school format. The latest NCAA rule changes failed to make concessions that would facilitate pods or the kind of scheduling flexibility to better maintain conference cohesion with growing numbers. The rule changes did make expansion to 20 slightly more lucrative as a league with two conferences could stage a second CCG. Is 20 the new 16?

The new legislation did not change the ability to have pods, if a conference wants them. By their nature and set up, pods are basically set up in a given year as two division, where the division set up rotates. So unless there was unreleased language that dictates the divisions must be static for X number of years, pods could still work.

For example, let's use North, South, East, and West ad pod names. In a three year cycle, each pod is paired up with another pod, where each team plays every other team in that pod, and one team in each of the other two pods (or only game against one other division depending on the number of teams). As such, each pairing is represented by column:

Year 1
North East
South West

Year 2
North South
East West

Year 3
North East
West South

The two pods that play each other in a given year, form a division for that season. That was always the plan behind a pod set up. The only difference is some would like an additional semi final round where each champ plays, but that is not necessary since each column represents a group of teams that had a round robin against each other.

Note this set up could also be used with 14 teams, or even 12 teams, if desired.
01-27-2016 05:20 PM
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