(03-31-2016 09:06 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  James Towns to Niagara.

Not a big deal. Looked like borderline MAC talent to me. Doubt Murphy was pushing hard for him.

Yeah class b all state first team for 2 years led his team to a state championship in the top 20 in state so would emu be interested in a player in their own backyard?

...because he ended up at a school in a lesser conference? MAAC was 20th (MAC was 10th), heavily weighted by Monmouth and Iona... and Niagara was RPI #316. He doesn't sound like a MAC-caliber player.

The idea of going after guys simply because they're from our own back yard isn't something I'm for. Sure, it would be great to get some talent from our state, but at the end of the day I don't really care where they're from as long as they have talent and drive. Thompson, Bond, and Toney are all from different parts of the country...and that's completely fine with me.

(04-02-2016 10:50 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  ...because he ended up at a school in a lesser conference? MAAC was 20th (MAC was 10th), heavily weighted by Monmouth and Iona... and Niagara was RPI #316. He doesn't sound like a MAC-caliber player.

The idea of going after guys simply because they're from our own back yard isn't something I'm for. Sure, it would be great to get some talent from our state, but at the end of the day I don't really care where they're from as long as they have talent and drive. Thompson, Bond, and Toney are all from different parts of the country...and that's completely fine with me.

Out of curiosity how many div1 offers did Steele have before giving us
verbal?

(04-03-2016 06:02 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 10:50 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  ...because he ended up at a school in a lesser conference? MAAC was 20th (MAC was 10th), heavily weighted by Monmouth and Iona... and Niagara was RPI #316. He doesn't sound like a MAC-caliber player.

The idea of going after guys simply because they're from our own back yard isn't something I'm for. Sure, it would be great to get some talent from our state, but at the end of the day I don't really care where they're from as long as they have talent and drive. Thompson, Bond, and Toney are all from different parts of the country...and that's completely fine with me.

Out of curiosity how many div1 offers did Steele have before giving us
verbal?

Steele is fascinating for several reasons:

1). He is from Naz's JUCO.

2). The assistant coach now at that JUCO is none other than John Bowler, fmr. EMU center. For those who don't know Bowler, he played with absolute grit, intensity, and smarts. All-MAC. John should know MAC basketball (esp. big man ball) as well as anyone. I hope we now have a lot of connections and knowledge of what is happening in Iowa (other than BobW. Lol.) for JUCOs and D-I talent (e.g., transfers).

3). Steele is a big man. There is a premium on big men.

I assume the staff thinks they have another Naz.

(04-03-2016 06:30 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 06:02 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 10:50 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  ...because he ended up at a school in a lesser conference? MAAC was 20th (MAC was 10th), heavily weighted by Monmouth and Iona... and Niagara was RPI #316. He doesn't sound like a MAC-caliber player.

The idea of going after guys simply because they're from our own back yard isn't something I'm for. Sure, it would be great to get some talent from our state, but at the end of the day I don't really care where they're from as long as they have talent and drive. Thompson, Bond, and Toney are all from different parts of the country...and that's completely fine with me.

Out of curiosity how many div1 offers did Steele have before giving us
verbal?

Steele is fascinating for several reasons:

1). He is from Naz's JUCO.

2). The assistant coach now at that JUCO is none other than John Bowler, fmr. EMU center. For those who don't know Bowler, he played with absolute grit, intensity, and smarts. All-MAC. John should know MAC basketball (esp. big man ball) as well as anyone. I hope we now have a lot of connections and knowledge of what is happening in Iowa (other than BobW. Lol.) for JUCOs and D-I talent (e.g., transfers).

3). Steele is a big man. There is a premium on big men.

I assume the staff thinks they have another Naz.

Yeah I get all that but answer the question, who else offered him?

Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

(04-04-2016 11:40 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

And a h.s. senior.

I still maintain, with no EA or Stone, that a frosh PG does not fit THIS team.

Assuming he was offered BEFORE the season began, like HELLO things have changed during the season. We lost all of our experienced PGs behind Toney.

He MIGHT have been a fit in November, but not now...

What we can learn from 'Nova's huge win in the NC game?

Three of the four top 'Nova scorers this year were from D.C. (two) or Baltimore (one). Only Ryan Arcidiancono (of the top 4 scorers) is from Pa or Philly area.

Ton of talent in D.C./Baltimore/Virginia (or even just the D.C.-Baltimore area - two cities about 35 miles apart). The pool is much deeper there than in Michigan.

Got to go fishing where the fishes are... ACC know that. ACC had a huge tourney, although UNC lost to 'Nova. Look at the UNC roster. Only two of 16 players on their roster not from a state bordering on the Atlantic Ocean.

(04-04-2016 11:40 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

Actually Towns is about 6'0.

(04-04-2016 11:54 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 11:40 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

And a h.s. senior.

I still maintain, with no EA or Stone, that a frosh PG does not fit THIS team.

Assuming he was offered BEFORE the season began, like HELLO things have changed during the season. We lost all of our experienced PGs behind Toney.

He MIGHT have been a fit in November, but not now...

Nice Joan Rivers imitation. Toney wasn't a true point guard which is why Bond generally played that position. If you're talking backup and not immediate improvement a high school senior is fine.

(04-05-2016 01:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 11:54 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 11:40 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

And a h.s. senior.

I still maintain, with no EA or Stone, that a frosh PG does not fit THIS team.

Assuming he was offered BEFORE the season began, like HELLO things have changed during the season. We lost all of our experienced PGs behind Toney.

He MIGHT have been a fit in November, but not now...

Nice Joan Rivers imitation. Toney wasn't a true point guard which is why Bond generally played that position. If you're talking backup and not immediate improvement a high school senior is fine.

Disagree. JUCO is the way to go at PG.

Otherwise, this year I have no problem with H.S. kids.

I still hope that someone like JT4 might be able to bring a teammate to EMU.

I wish I saved the site, but it listed top h.s. players for a number of states. MI has only a few going to the power conferences. N.C., e.g., has almost TWENTY.

#FishWhereTheFishAre

(04-05-2016 01:34 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 11:40 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

Actually Towns is about 6'0.

Mick McCabe lists him at 5' 10"

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-s.../77120206/

(04-05-2016 05:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-05-2016 01:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 11:54 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 11:40 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 07:08 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Curious on what others consider as the definition of marginal div 1 player. Certainly one answer could be a player with no other div 1 offers although there could be other definitions.

In the case of Towns I made that judgement based on what I saw. Average at best shooter, only about 5'9", etc.

And a h.s. senior.

I still maintain, with no EA or Stone, that a frosh PG does not fit THIS team.

Assuming he was offered BEFORE the season began, like HELLO things have changed during the season. We lost all of our experienced PGs behind Toney.

He MIGHT have been a fit in November, but not now...

Nice Joan Rivers imitation. Toney wasn't a true point guard which is why Bond generally played that position. If you're talking backup and not immediate improvement a high school senior is fine.

Disagree. JUCO is the way to go at PG.

Otherwise, this year I have no problem with H.S. kids.

I still hope that someone like JT4 might be able to bring a teammate to EMU.

I wish I saved the site, but it listed top h.s. players for a number of states. MI has only a few going to the power conferences. N.C., e.g., has almost TWENTY.

#FishWhereTheFishAre

Doubt EMU could find a legit D1 PG to come in and spend 1 of his 2 remaining seasons behind Toney. I say get a HS kid.

Also need a shooter.

I agree with Nickle. I'd rather see us get a 4-year PG that we can ease in as a freshman. We will be fine with Toney, Bond, and possibly Lee handling the ball for this upcoming season, and then the freshman can take the reins as a sophomore in 17/18.

A 1-year juco (like Combs) would work for a shooting guard. Our backcourt will be depleted in '17, so might as well stock up now so they can learn the zone.

(04-05-2016 11:51 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  I agree with Nickle. I'd rather see us get a 4-year PG that we can ease in as a freshman. We will be fine with Toney, Bond, and possibly Lee handling the ball for this upcoming season, and then the freshman can take the reins as a sophomore in 17/18.

A 1-year juco (like Combs) would work for a shooting guard. Our backcourt will be depleted in '17, so might as well stock up now so they can learn the zone.

I tend to agree with you BUT like Bond is our only SF so it isn't like he can play 20 minutes at SF and 15 at PG.

For what you post to happen, we need a SF who has the abilities to play 20 or 30 minutes.

If anything happens to Toney and Bond moves back to PG, the SF recruit has to be able to be starter-quality minutes.

Good point. I'm sure that SF is going to be addressed with one of the schollies now that Price left...but I wouldn't be shocked if Murphy goes to more 3 guard sets like he did at the end of the year. Having Toney, Lee, and Mangum on the floor at the same time is scary for an opponent (ask Toledo), even if it hurts us a little in the zone.

But if you have the three guards with Thompson and LWH out there, you kinda cover your bases. Our front court depth should allow us to play small at other positions and not be too hurt by it on the glass.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/.../82721014/

(04-07-2016 01:49 AM)emu79 Wrote:  http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/.../82721014/

I saw this last night. EMU not mentioned for any.

I've kind of given up on recruiting in MI.

I still don't know why Turner and Brown have not committed to anyone yet. Signing period starts in six days...

I find it surprising.

The best explanation I can come up with is that a lot of schools don't have scholarships to give until March when their roster players announce plans to transfer. E.g., in the case of Turner, do CMU, UB, UDM, etc. have scholarships to give? Did they hold off with firm offers until they saw who did and did not leave their programs?