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What do Houston, SMU, UCF really bring?
Houston has had a few good years in football and they are even undefeated so far this season. Even now the attendance at their games is mediocre at best. SMU and UCF played a big game last weekend concerning CUSA standings and a mere 5,000-10k showed up. At least ECU draws a crowd when they are good. Much better fit than any of these other schools.

And you can forget about helping basketball. Houston and SMU play in a high school gym and might have 5k average except for the Memphis game. UCF could be a nice addition in bball if they improve.

As far as TV markets go, Houston gets very little coverage in the Houston market. Its all Longhorns all the time. Same goes for UCF. Its Gator country and you already have South Florida for the recruiting access. SMU has been nothing since 1983 and even now with their recent success, they play in an empty stadium for the most part. They are merely an afterthought in the Dallas market.

I'm a Memphis fan and of course would love an invite. However, due to our atrocious leadership and football play, I dont feel I have a basis to argue that we "deserve" anything. However, when we had success, the stadium was full. Ask the Louisville and Cincinatti fans that came down during 2003 and 2004. Still, ECU brings more to the table than almost all of those other schools. I still dont understand the desire for the BE to add Houston and SMU. Its baffling.
10-28-2011 02:32 PM
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We averaged 40k the last 5 years. Not bad at this point without major success.
10-28-2011 02:36 PM
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RE: What do Houston, SMU, UCF really bring?
(10-28-2011 02:32 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Houston has had a few good years in football and they are even undefeated so far this season. Even now the attendance at their games is mediocre at best. SMU and UCF played a big game last weekend concerning CUSA standings and a mere 5,000-10k showed up. At least ECU draws a crowd when they are good. Much better fit than any of these other schools.

Yeah, of those four schools, i'd rank them ECU then UCF, with SMU and Houston WAY behind.
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(10-28-2011 02:36 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  We averaged 40k the last 5 years. Not bad at this point without major success.

I agree. You have potential in both sports and a huge alumni base. Im more astounded about the SMU and Houston requests. Im sure the basketball only school have to be excited about those powerhouses joining up.
10-28-2011 02:43 PM
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(10-28-2011 02:32 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  And you can forget about helping basketball. Houston and SMU play in a high school gym and might have 5k average except for the Memphis game.

You are being way too generous.

Houston averaged 3,280 and SMU averaged 1,970 last season.
Houston's total basketball attendance for the season was around 52,000 and SMU's was about 43,000... about 7,000 less than ECU draws to one football game.

They add new markets (it does not matter to the Big East if anyone actually goes to the games) and new recruiting territories.
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RE: What do Houston, SMU, UCF really bring?
Houston and SMU put The BEast in both of Texas' largest markets (DFW and Houston), and open the door for recruiting in Texas, homefry. Those are 2 pretty good reasons...
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RE: What do Houston, SMU, UCF really bring?
So you think that UConn getting to play every other year in Texas is going to get them better football recruits? Its not really a basketball wealth of talent. I just dont see the allure of a school a billion miles away playing once every other year as a legitimate recruiting tool, especially when no one really cares for those two programs.

As for the TV Market argument, it only matters if people actually watch the games. Considering that they couldnt average 5k last year combined attendance (thanks for the edit above) then what makes you think putting them on TV is going to matter?
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The conference was built as a basketball conference and then managed to profit from the BCS concept. How excited do you think conference bretheren such as St. Johns and Seton Hall are about playing weeknight basketball games in Texas against lousy opponents?
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RE: What do Houston, SMU, UCF really bring?
There will always be kids who want to go a long way from home to prove themselves. And as long as there are kids like that, you stand as good a chance as any other school of getting them. All you have to do is try...

I think you're shortchanging the market aspect as well, because Houston and SMU have plenty of alums who have been trying to get both schools notice since the SWC collapsed. There will be interest in Texas, now that both schools are finally part of the BCS...
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RE: What do Houston, SMU, UCF really bring?
Not much.

At least Memphis and Temple are good at something and have fans.
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