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RE: Miami Herald: Sun Belt might add 11th school to membership
What's the saying?

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it?

The WAC developed a name brand.

They started with Arizona, Arizona State, Utah (all now in the Pac-12), BYU (MWC now indy), Wyoming and New Mexico.

As they lost teams they added teams. Colorado State and UTEP (both gone), then San Diego State, Air Force, and Hawaii (all gone), then Fresno (going), the Tulsa, SMU, Rice, TCU, UNLV, and San Jose ( TCU to Big East now, all gone but for SJSU). and on they've gone.

I can name two leagues with a similar history.

The Southern
Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee (all be Washington & Lee went to greatness). Next came Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt. Then Sewanee, Virginia Military Institute and Duke. Wake Forest, West Virginia, East Carolina, and Marshall also came through but each addition moved further down the line and now its a great FCS league but few schools with potential to come to FBS (there are some) and no one looking to recapture what the Southern once was.

The Missouri Valley
Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Drake and Washington (St. Louis). Then Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Grinnel. Later Cincinnati, Houston, UNT, Tulsa, Memphis, Louisville, and finally New Mexico State came through. Like the early days of the WAC and Southern, schools came through that became major players, then schools who became mid-level players, since the addition and then departure of NMSU, no one has made it in that looks to be heading FBS any time soon.

The WAC is turning into the Valley and Southern. That's not a bad thing, both have many high level achievements but neither is what it once was. The WAC is following this path. They've added a non-football, they are rumored to be considering another. They are adding one from FCS, one that hasn't played football to play football and rumored to be adding one or two more FCS.

The Southland has followed a similar path. In the past 21 years they've made two FCS title appearances winning none. The eight years prior? Four title appearances with one win. It's just that three of those appearances were made by teams who aren't there any more.
04-09-2011 09:06 AM
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RE: Miami Herald: Sun Belt might add 11th school to membership
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/utsa/2011/0...ster-plan/
Quote:....Indeed, if this story in the Miami Herald is remotely accurate, it could be the Sun Belt Conference poaching from the WAC, not the other way around.

The comments smack more of saber-rattling to me, sort of like Moe Green after Michael Corleone asked him how much he wanted for his casino. (Sun Belt commissioner Wright Waters: “The WAC wants to steal our teams? No, the Sun Belt steals your teams, you don’t steal ours.”)

But, the mere possibility illustrates that the Sun Belt has likely vaulted past the WAC in terms of prestige, and definitely in the critical area of stability.

So unless Benson can do some sweet-talking worthy of Cicero, or a chain of dominoes falls to open up opportunities currently unseen, it’s a pretty solid bet any WAC newcomers are going to come from the Football Championship Subdivision or nowhere.
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RE: Miami Herald: Sun Belt might add 11th school to membership
(04-09-2011 09:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  http://blog.mysanantonio.com/utsa/2011/0...ster-plan/
Quote:....Indeed, if this story in the Miami Herald is remotely accurate, it could be the Sun Belt Conference poaching from the WAC, not the other way around.

The comments smack more of saber-rattling to me, sort of like Moe Green after Michael Corleone asked him how much he wanted for his casino. (Sun Belt commissioner Wright Waters: “The WAC wants to steal our teams? No, the Sun Belt steals your teams, you don’t steal ours.”)

But, the mere possibility illustrates that the Sun Belt has likely vaulted past the WAC in terms of prestige, and definitely in the critical area of stability.

So unless Benson can do some sweet-talking worthy of Cicero, or a chain of dominoes falls to open up opportunities currently unseen, it’s a pretty solid bet any WAC newcomers are going to come from the Football Championship Subdivision or nowhere.

Ha! Moe Green. LOL
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RE: Miami Herald: Sun Belt might add 11th school to membership
(04-07-2011 06:53 PM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  
(04-07-2011 05:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  One thing about Tech is the class always shines through. I agree with them that the Sun Belt isn't adding Tech and get called names for my trouble.

Classy bunch.

Agree; not a classy bunch at all. I stopped posting on their board as I was called some vile names and I am too old for that chit . . 04-chairshot

My preference is that Tech stay in the WAC forever.

Loserana Tech's fans are on the same par as Kraptucky fans--except they may have one tooth more and that came off in one of their sister's cracks.
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