(02-25-2018 01:42 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I thought Jarkel Joiner would win WAC Freshman of the Year honors. But now I think Alessandro Lever is the shoe in for the honor. He has been a beast since pretty much since mid January.

(02-25-2018 04:42 PM)gleadley Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 01:42 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  I thought Jarkel Joiner would win WAC Freshman of the Year honors. But now I think Alessandro Lever is the shoe in for the honor. He has been a beast since pretty much since mid January.

At last check, Lever was the 3rd leading scorer in the conference during league play, with no other freshman in the Top 10. He's also been a fringe Top 10 rebounder. I'm just a little biased, but I'm going to have to agree with you on this one, Pistol.

(02-25-2018 06:29 PM)Raider_Lope Wrote:  It’s amazing that even with the relatively disappointing season for GCU, they’re still looking at a 2 or 3 seed and can make a run in the conference tournament. Just... please put UMKC in the other bracket!

I say that in the context of Lever changing the game. Without him, the year would’ve revolved around a struggling Braun and underwhelming Benson. Aly has been the difference maker. He draws defenders to open up Frayer. He scores and rebounds. He makes those he plays around better. Braun has just kept Demari on the bench more than he should’ve been.

I’m also really glad Dan has rediscovered the value of Martin and Jackson. Just saying.

(02-25-2018 07:46 PM)MCanaday9 Wrote:  Where have you seen overall record as a tiebreaker? I thought it was whomever had the best record for the #1 seed and then #2 seed and so on. That is pretty traditional for other conferences but I haven't been able to find anything online for WAC.

(02-25-2018 08:37 PM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 07:46 PM)MCanaday9 Wrote:  Where have you seen overall record as a tiebreaker? I thought it was whomever had the best record for the #1 seed and then #2 seed and so on. That is pretty traditional for other conferences but I haven't been able to find anything online for WAC.

Nevermind I looked it up. It's head to head record first then in this case record against nmsu. After that its rpi.

(02-25-2018 08:49 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 08:37 PM)Vaqueronation Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 07:46 PM)MCanaday9 Wrote:  Where have you seen overall record as a tiebreaker? I thought it was whomever had the best record for the #1 seed and then #2 seed and so on. That is pretty traditional for other conferences but I haven't been able to find anything online for WAC.

Nevermind I looked it up. It's head to head record first then in this case record against nmsu. After that its rpi.

This was from 2015 LCSN Article but it should still hold true...

Basketball Specific Tie-Breaking Procedures

[1] Two-Way Tie:

[i] The winner of the head-to-head competition is the higher seed.

[ii] If the tie is for first place, compare the tied teams’ records against the next highest finishing team and continue through the standings. The team with the best record/winning percentage against the next highest finishing team(s) or group of tied teams that the tied teams have played the same amount of times shall receive the higher seed.  If the tie is for any position other than first place, the comparison shall begin at the top of the standings.

[iii] If a tie still remains, the institution with the highest RPI at the conclusion of the WAC’s regular season shall receive the higher seed.

[2] Three or More-Way Tie. Once a tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaker is implemented.

[i] Compare the records of the tied teams against each other. The team(s) with the best record(s) versus the other tied teams receives the higher seed or advances to the next tie-breaker; the team with the next best record versus the other tied teams receives the next highest seed or advances to the next tie breaker, etc.

[ii] If the tie is for first place, compare the tied teams’ records against the next highest finishing team and continue through the standings. The team with the best record against the next highest finishing team(s) or group of tied teams that all the tied teams have played the same amount of times shall receive the higher seed  or advance to the next level of tie-breaker. If the tie is for any position other than first place the comparison shall begin at the top of the standings.

[iii] If a tie still remains, the institution with the highest RPI at the conclusion of the WAC’s regular season shall receive the higher seed.

(02-25-2018 07:46 PM)MCanaday9 Wrote:  Where have you seen overall record as a tiebreaker? I thought it was whomever had the best record for the #1 seed and then #2 seed and so on. That is pretty traditional for other conferences but I haven't been able to find anything online for WAC.

(02-25-2018 05:37 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  In all probability, GCU will be the media's pre-season favorite next season; with Lever blossoming and Frayer broadening his game. It will be interesting to see if Blumberg (in the offseason) can close the confidence gap between him and the way Lever is playing now? If he can Majerle will probably have his best team to date.

Hopefully, NMSU will not see any major upheaval in the offseason. With Jans at the helm, I feel confident, NMSU will once again be a major player for the WAC Championship next season; regardless of losing Lofton and Jones.

(02-25-2018 06:29 PM)Raider_Lope Wrote:  It’s amazing that even with the relatively disappointing season for GCU, they’re still looking at a 2 or 3 seed and can make a run in the conference tournament. Just... please put UMKC in the other bracket!

I say that in the context of Lever changing the game. Without him, the year would’ve revolved around a struggling Braun and underwhelming Benson. Aly has been the difference maker. He draws defenders to open up Frayer. He scores and rebounds. He makes those he plays around better. Braun has just kept Demari on the bench more than he should’ve been.

I’m also really glad Dan has rediscovered the value of Martin and Jackson. Just saying.

(02-25-2018 07:59 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Again, if there are not major setbacks in the off season, GCU, Seattle, and UM Kansas City are improving considerably; CSU Bakersfield and UT Rio Grande Valley improving slightly; UVU dropping in strength; and Chicago State trailing the field. The addition of Cal Baptist will put a new wrinkle on things. I don't see them as bottom dwellers right off the bat; even as a transitioning D2-to-D1 school.

As I said before, I think NMSU will still be at or near the top next season. NMSU loses Lofton, Jones, and Wilkins but the already have replacements waiting in the wings; that's my homer perspective. I think WAC fans have already been burned too many times to count NMSU out as a contender next season. We loose Sim Bhullar... so what. We lose Mullings and Nephawe...old news. We lose Siakam and Menzies...doesn't matter. Baker, Huggins and Weir are gone... no problem. Lofton and Jones are adios... well what do you think?

(02-25-2018 06:30 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  Lever is a NBA draft pick next season. GCU better enjoy him while he is there.

(02-25-2018 06:30 PM)FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 Wrote:  Lever is a NBA draft pick next season. GCU better enjoy him while he is there.