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RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - snowtiger - 02-17-2018 01:41 PM (02-17-2018 01:37 PM)Cotten Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:10 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:43 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote: Without wading too far into this, I think one stop gap is forcing him to fire the assistants who are not (at least visibly) pulling their weight. That's my understanding of the situation, also. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - jamammy - 02-17-2018 01:41 PM RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Shooters - 02-17-2018 02:07 PM (02-17-2018 01:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:37 PM)Cotten Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:10 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote: A few posters here have intimated that Esposito is leaving on his own no matter what. At that point, all you have to do is force Tubby to fire Saul. If you do that, NOBODY in the national media, any media or with any common sense is going to blame us; they know that Saul is ******* useless. That’s a contradiction. If they can’t mess with Tubby’s staff , how can they threaten to fire Tubby if he doesn’t fire them? Well they CAN issue empty threats and Tubby would laugh at them. I don’t think a lot of posters realize the import of Tubby basically telling Bowen to go screw himself by getting rid of Keelon after Bowen’s poromise to Keelon. Don’t let Tubby’s demeanor fool you. He can be a hard nose S*B. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Tiger1983 - 02-17-2018 02:21 PM (02-17-2018 12:26 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: You are right, cost has to paid with real money. “Sunk Cost” is a concept that acknowledges that it is good policy to exclude unrecoverable past investments (eg, Tubby’s contract unless negotiated down) “when deciding whether to continue with further investments.” https://www.accountingtools.com/articles/what-is-a-sunk-cost.html The idea is we should exclude Tubby’s contract cost (once determined it cannot be lowered) when considering alternatives to Tubby. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - jgardne - 02-17-2018 02:22 PM (02-17-2018 12:26 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: And they have to do it whether we fire Tubby or don't. And they know they do. And surely they know we suck right now. Maybe find other boosters to pay the new coaches salary? I can't pay 100,000, but maybe I'd be willing to chip in 1-10k if I was approached the right way. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - jgardne - 02-17-2018 02:26 PM (02-17-2018 01:28 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:58 PM)Joe1 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:47 PM)Tigx Wrote: No, stupid. Nobody pm'd him, he's making it up. you're not a positive paul RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - snowtiger - 02-17-2018 02:28 PM (02-17-2018 02:07 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:37 PM)Cotten Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:10 PM)Shooters Wrote: And Tubby has staff control, since some can't seem to remember he moved Keelon off the staff. FACT. Over Bowen's objection who verbally promised Keelon a bench asst position. Think that through and you ain't doing jack with Tubby's permission. I don't think Memphis fans are fooled at this point. I never saw where our Admin threatened to fire him if he didn't fire his staff. Most future HOF coaches won't enter into a situation without full control of assistants. I've been told he has full control of his assistants. I'm not sure how Texas Tech avoided that, but maybe Tubby was more willing to negotiate that point because his son had been picked up for DUI. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Cotten - 02-17-2018 02:50 PM (02-17-2018 02:07 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:37 PM)Cotten Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 01:10 PM)Shooters Wrote: And Tubby has staff control, since some can't seem to remember he moved Keelon off the staff. FACT. Over Bowen's objection who verbally promised Keelon a bench asst position. Think that through and you ain't doing jack with Tubby's permission. That's not a contradiction. The can fire Tubby without cause, but they would owe him the balance of his contract. They could threaten to fire Tubby if he doesn't make staff changes, but Tubby's made it clear that he's going to do things his way so the threat carries no weight. You either fire Tubby and start over, or he's going to continue with whatever staff he wants. It's either/or. But the idea that you can get out from under his albatross contract by unilaterally changing out his staff against his wishes to make him uncomfortable and ultimately quit is not an option. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Stammers - 02-17-2018 02:59 PM (02-17-2018 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:47 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:44 PM)Joe1 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:30 PM)Stammers Wrote: A few posters pm'd me telling me that 3 of them are friends, which I guess explains it. I said it, it's true. Waiting on sheeple's 2 and 3 to weigh in. Keep up the good work with the GT game updates and having me on ignore. Clearly, ignore is a perfect example of every bit of nonsense that comes out of you...the exact opposite of reality. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - ncrdbl1 - 02-17-2018 04:58 PM (02-17-2018 06:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: If you are of the opinion that discussion of ways to terminate Tubby's service is premature, then this thread is not for you and you are advised to ignore it. The thread's intent is generation of mature and rational discussion on the best method of dumping Tubby and not on the advisably of firing him. In other words, for the sake of this discussion, we will assume that the decision to fire Tubby has already taken place. Still say find a coed who is willing to have an affair with Orlando. Other than that forcing him to fire Saul would be the next best move. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - ncrdbl1 - 02-17-2018 05:20 PM (02-17-2018 12:58 PM)Joe1 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:47 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:44 PM)Joe1 Wrote: Interesting Orlando would also playing that schedule. When you go with a freshman point guard in the top Basketball conference in the US then you will have less than stellar results. Top 2 players are either Fresh or Soph. At least they do have a decent recruiting class to look forward to next year. With (3) four star players signed. What do we have, a single recruit rated in the 300s. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Tigx - 02-17-2018 05:28 PM (02-17-2018 05:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:58 PM)Joe1 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:47 PM)Tigx Wrote: No, stupid. Nobody pm'd him, he's making it up. Will you ever learn? Joshie could have Duke's incoming class next year and still suck. (Btw, just looked, Rivals says 1 4 star) Okogie and Lammers will probably be drafted, and he was down 37 points at home today to Va Tech, and has lost 9 of the last 10. Poor Georgia Tech extended him until 2023. Look at the bright side, Ga Tech has winless Pittsburgh in its conference, so at least they won't finish last. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Latilleon - 02-17-2018 05:30 PM (02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: Pay it off in a lumpsum or over six years, you still need to come up with the money so you can also pay another coach. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - Joe1 - 02-17-2018 05:32 PM (02-17-2018 05:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:You always defend your all time favorite coach. His record sucks and will only get worse. He could lose 7 in a row. Stop defending the guy.(02-17-2018 12:58 PM)Joe1 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:53 PM)Tigx Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:47 PM)Tigx Wrote: No, stupid. Nobody pm'd him, he's making it up. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - snowtiger - 02-17-2018 05:34 PM Ehh...shrug... We all need our heroes. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - fsquid - 02-17-2018 05:37 PM Still number 4 Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using CSNbbs mobile app RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - macgar32 - 02-17-2018 05:55 PM (02-17-2018 02:21 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 12:26 PM)Shooters Wrote:(02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: If one of the alternatives is keeping him it is not a sunk cost. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - macgar32 - 02-17-2018 05:59 PM (02-17-2018 05:30 PM)Latilleon Wrote:(02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: We are playing 2 coaches right now... Fire Tubby and we will be paying 3 coaches next year... Even if you extend it over 6 years you are still paying 2.5 million to coaches who aren't here next year. And if the next coach doesn't work out and your still paying Tubby you will still be paying 3 coaches. It is kind of like trading in cars where you are upside down...You end up paying $700 a month for hyundai if you do it too often. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - macgar32 - 02-17-2018 05:59 PM (02-17-2018 05:30 PM)Latilleon Wrote:(02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: We are playing 2 coaches right now... Fire Tubby and we will be paying 3 coaches next year... Even if you extend it over 6 years you are still paying 2.5 million to coaches who aren't here next year. And if the next coach doesn't work out and your still paying Tubby you will still be paying 3 coaches. It is kind of like trading in cars where you are upside down...You end up paying $700 a month for hyundai if you do it too often. RE: Possible Steps on Getting Rid of Tubby - Your Input - jamammy - 02-17-2018 06:02 PM (02-17-2018 05:59 PM)macgar32 Wrote:(02-17-2018 05:30 PM)Latilleon Wrote:(02-17-2018 09:11 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:(02-17-2018 08:53 AM)Latilleon Wrote: One step: Name the two coaches that we are paying. |