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RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - cpawfan - 01-04-2018 01:40 PM
Didn't we get the former Kent State HC to fill Martinez's spot?
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - The T-Shirt - 01-04-2018 01:49 PM
(01-04-2018 01:40 PM)cpawfan Wrote: Didn't we get the former Kent State HC to fill Martinez's spot?
That fell through.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Marcus - 01-04-2018 02:06 PM
(01-04-2018 01:33 PM)geef Wrote:(01-04-2018 01:14 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:(01-04-2018 12:47 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:(01-04-2018 11:52 AM)geef Wrote:(01-04-2018 11:20 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote: So I guess that's now three open positions and counting.
Three? Apparently I haven't been tracking well. It's not just Washington and the new position?
CB coach Willie Martinez left a few weeks back.
OT: but did you guys see that SMU hired UConn's OC away from them?
I was including Rosfeld's position as well.
So is that four? Martinez, Washington, Rosfeld, and the new position?
Rosfield was not a full time assistant coach was he? I believe there are 3 full time spots available beginning next week. I'd personally like to see Fickell try and hire a local high school coach for one of those positions. Specht would be a great DB coach or maybe with the 10th position get someone who would really help with local recruiting, an Andre Parker or Doc Gamble (currently WR's coach at Kent State I believe).
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - BearcatMan - 01-04-2018 02:08 PM
Washington had his hand in so many of the signees' recruitment processes...he is a humongous loss, and hopefully that doesn't end up costing u with foundations laid for the '19 guys (and some of the '18 signees). The good thing is all those guys are locked in...the bad thing is that they're probably pretty damn unhappy right now.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - BearcatMan - 01-04-2018 02:10 PM
Still think we should try to get Mickens for DBs. Dude has done more with less up in BGSU, and obviously has the playing experience to lean back on when it comes to coaching.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - CliftonAve - 01-04-2018 02:12 PM
(01-04-2018 02:10 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Still think we should try to get Mickens for DBs. Dude has done more with less up in BGSU, and obviously has the playing experience to lean back on when it comes to coaching.
He just took the DB job at Kent State last week.
I guess he could always change his mind...
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Marcus - 01-04-2018 02:13 PM
It's a shame Haynes didn't materialize. He would have been an absolute home run as DB's coach and from a recruiting standpoint.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - BearcatMan - 01-04-2018 02:18 PM
(01-04-2018 02:12 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:(01-04-2018 02:10 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Still think we should try to get Mickens for DBs. Dude has done more with less up in BGSU, and obviously has the playing experience to lean back on when it comes to coaching.
He just took the DB job at Kent State last week.
I guess he could always change his mind...
Wouldn't be a college coach if he didn't...
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Bearhawkeye - 01-04-2018 02:40 PM
To be honest, I was kind of disappointed with the overall performance of the DL given it seemed to clearly be the strongest unit on the team and the reports of how good BC's DL had been under Washington. But his recruiting more than lived up to his rep so I hate to lose him.
Reports are that Washington is also changing what position he's coaching at UM, possibly to RBs. So much for that whole trench mob thing on both counts I guess.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - dsquare - 01-04-2018 02:43 PM
I don't recall a dline coach jumping to rb's. Odd move position wise, but i'm sure way more $.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Marcus - 01-04-2018 02:46 PM
(01-04-2018 02:43 PM)dsquare Wrote: I don't recall a dline coach jumping to rb's. Odd move position wise, but i'm sure way more $.
I believe he was RB's coach at Boston College from 2013-2015. That may be his comfort zone more so than coaching DLine.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - CliftonAve - 01-04-2018 02:47 PM
(01-04-2018 02:43 PM)dsquare Wrote: I don't recall a dline coach jumping to rb's. Odd move position wise, but i'm sure way more $.
He actually coached RBs at three years at Boston College before switching to the DL. So not a position he is not unfamiliar with.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Bearhawkeye - 01-04-2018 02:58 PM
(01-04-2018 11:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: There will be more by the second signing period. The week after the national championship game there are going to be a ton of assistant coaching dominos falling all over the country. Rich will get richer with coaching talent. Poor will promote graduate assistants.
BTW: LSU just signed its DC to a deal for $2.5 million a year.
Don't forget that U of Arizona is now open, plus the NFL hasn't raided anyone from college yet either. There's an interesting piece on espn where 45 of their analysts ranked the coaches they'd hire for a hypothetical NFL HC job. 3 of the top 4 and 7 of the top 15 were current college HCs.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Bearhawkeye - 01-04-2018 03:05 PM
(01-04-2018 02:47 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:(01-04-2018 02:43 PM)dsquare Wrote: I don't recall a dline coach jumping to rb's. Odd move position wise, but i'm sure way more $.
He actually coached RBs at three years at Boston College before switching to the DL. So not a position he is not unfamiliar with.
Plus there's some thought that it's not quite as labor intensive as some of the other assistant jobs, thus giving a good recruiter more time to recruit.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - rath v2.0 - 01-04-2018 03:15 PM
(01-04-2018 02:43 PM)dsquare Wrote: I don't recall a dline coach jumping to rb's. Odd move position wise, but i'm sure way more $.
When pressed into it most of them have been around it enough they can coach about any position. Most of the position coaches are not reinventing the wheel.
Heck, our RB coach has his name on Shank Pavillion as a QB.
How do you recruit and how do you instill energy and work ethic in preparation and off the field. That’s how assistants separate themselves from the pack.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - bearcatdp - 01-04-2018 03:43 PM
(01-04-2018 02:58 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote: There's an interesting piece on espn where 45 of their analysts ranked the coaches they'd hire for a hypothetical NFL HC job. 3 of the top 4 and 7 of the top 15 were current college HCs.
Note not a single one is a Bengals assistant.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - JackieTreehorn - 01-04-2018 03:47 PM
(01-04-2018 02:58 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:(01-04-2018 11:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: There will be more by the second signing period. The week after the national championship game there are going to be a ton of assistant coaching dominos falling all over the country. Rich will get richer with coaching talent. Poor will promote graduate assistants.
BTW: LSU just signed its DC to a deal for $2.5 million a year.
Don't forget that U of Arizona is now open, plus the NFL hasn't raided anyone from college yet either. There's an interesting piece on espn where 45 of their analysts ranked the coaches they'd hire for a hypothetical NFL HC job. 3 of the top 4 and 7 of the top 15 were current college HCs.
That would make sense considering that only 6 head coaches got canned in the NFL when some people were predicting up to 14 firings. It seems that the pickings for a decent HC among the ranks already coaching in the NFL are seen as being pretty slim. Must be when you can go 1-32 over two seasons and get to keep your job.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - Banter - 01-04-2018 03:47 PM
(01-04-2018 03:15 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:(01-04-2018 02:43 PM)dsquare Wrote: I don't recall a dline coach jumping to rb's. Odd move position wise, but i'm sure way more $.
When pressed into it most of them have been around it enough they can coach about any position. Most of the position coaches are not reinventing the wheel.
Heck, our RB coach has his name on Shank Pavillion as a QB.
How do you recruit and how do you instill energy and work ethic in preparation and off the field. That’s how assistants separate themselves from the pack.
I have no idea if it is true or not, but I have heard many people say that QB's don't always make good QB coached. That could be a reason Gino has been working with other offensive positions.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - dsquare - 01-04-2018 03:48 PM
(01-04-2018 03:43 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:(01-04-2018 02:58 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote: There's an interesting piece on espn where 45 of their analysts ranked the coaches they'd hire for a hypothetical NFL HC job. 3 of the top 4 and 7 of the top 15 were current college HCs.
Note not a single one is a Bengals assistant.
That ship sailed when Zimmer and Gruden left. Jackson, jury is out.
RE: Coaching Carousel 2018... - CliftonAve - 01-04-2018 03:52 PM
(01-04-2018 03:47 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:(01-04-2018 02:58 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:(01-04-2018 11:27 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: There will be more by the second signing period. The week after the national championship game there are going to be a ton of assistant coaching dominos falling all over the country. Rich will get richer with coaching talent. Poor will promote graduate assistants.
BTW: LSU just signed its DC to a deal for $2.5 million a year.
Don't forget that U of Arizona is now open, plus the NFL hasn't raided anyone from college yet either. There's an interesting piece on espn where 45 of their analysts ranked the coaches they'd hire for a hypothetical NFL HC job. 3 of the top 4 and 7 of the top 15 were current college HCs.
That would make sense considering that only 6 head coaches got canned in the NFL when some people were predicting up to 14 firings. It seems that the pickings for a decent HC among the ranks already coaching in the NFL are seen as being pretty slim. Must be when you can go 1-32 over two seasons and get to keep your job.
By the time Marvin's contract is up, he will be coaching the Bengals.