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Garbage Religion - miko33 - 10-05-2017 06:03 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/28/opinion/mustafa-akyol-detention-malaysia.html

What a POS religion.

Quote:I am writing this column from an airplane, on my way from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to my new home, Wellesley, Mass. I’m in a comfortable seat, and I’m looking forward to getting back to my family. About 12 hours ago, though, I was miserable, locked in a holding cell by Malaysia’s “religious police.”

How SJW types ever advocate for practitioners of this faith, I have no idea. Poor guy was lecturing on a more tolerant version of Islam, and the heresy hunters locked him up.


RE: Garbage Religion - umbluegray - 10-05-2017 06:48 PM

Wow! NYTs no less.


RE: Garbage Religion - cb4029 - 10-05-2017 08:34 PM

Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.


RE: Garbage Religion - stinkfist - 10-05-2017 08:38 PM

I'll never understand why I believe in atheism....

IMO, "intolerance" is all the same inside/outside any cult.....

I only understand the good, the bad, and the ones that are funny 03-wink


RE: Garbage Religion - TigerBlue4Ever - 10-05-2017 09:41 PM

(10-05-2017 08:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.

Nice try. Swing and a miss though, please play again.


RE: Garbage Religion - Bull_Is_Back - 10-05-2017 09:43 PM

(10-05-2017 08:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.

His brother said he was not religious...


RE: Garbage Religion - hburg - 10-05-2017 09:47 PM

ISIS would have something to say about Paddock.


RE: Garbage Religion - HeartOfDixie - 10-05-2017 10:22 PM

Political Islam is a cancer.

Islam itself I have a harder time saying that about. I got called quite a bit on here for my defense of that but it's just the reality.

I can't bring myself to paint with such a broad brush about the religion considering my childhood and the individuals I know to this day.

Then again, as a wise man once said, in reference to how two main groups here in the U.S. view race, "in the South people love the individuals and hate the race but in the North they love the race and hate the individuals."


RE: Garbage Religion - stinkfist - 10-05-2017 10:26 PM

(10-05-2017 10:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Political Islam is a cancer.

Islam itself I have a harder time saying that about. I got called quite a bit on here for my defense of that but it's just the reality.

I can't bring myself to paint with such a broad brush about the religion considering my childhood and the individuals I know to this day.

Then again, as a wise man once said, in reference to how two main groups here in the U.S. view race, "in the South people love the individuals and hate the race but in the North they love the race and hate the individuals."

I signed a contract a month ago with an Islamic lawyer......didn't bother me one iota....

he pays in cash too 03-wink

it's truly disturbing how brainwashed people are in relative terms.....


Garbage Religion - Jjoey52 - 10-06-2017 12:06 AM

(10-05-2017 08:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.


Nice try, but he was an atheist. Also, a registered Democrat.


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RE: Garbage Religion - CardFan1 - 10-06-2017 02:46 AM

(10-06-2017 12:06 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.


Nice try, but he was an atheist. Also, a registered Democrat.


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But but but...............01-wingedeagle


RE: Garbage Religion - shere khan - 10-06-2017 08:52 AM

(10-05-2017 06:48 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Wow! NYTs no less.
Failing New York Times


RE: Garbage Religion - BobcatEngineer - 10-06-2017 10:52 AM

The article itself points out there's a disconnect between what the Quran actually says and how Islamic governments operate:

Quote:I argued that Muslims must uphold freedom of conscience, in line with the Quranic dictum “No compulsion in religion.” I said that apostasy should not be punished by death, as it is in Saudi Arabia, or with “rehabilitation,” as it is in Malaysia. The practice of Islam must be on the basis of freedom, not coercion, and governments shouldn’t police religion or morality.

I'm not a religious person, but I don't see too much of a difference between the essence of Islam and most other major religions. The way I see it, religion is a good guideline on how to live your life: Don't lie, treat your neighbor how you'd like to be treated, respect your elders, etc... Most religions have this in common. It also serves as a way to explain the great mysterious unknowns in our lives.

And then along the course of the life of a religion, it gets hijacked and spun by a political entity with the goal of subjugating the population and keeping the ruling class in power. That's what I see happening in Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, etc..


RE: Garbage Religion - Bull_Is_Back - 10-06-2017 11:19 AM

(10-06-2017 10:52 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I'm not a religious person, but I don't see too much of a difference between the essence of Islam and most other major religions.

Then you have a self inflicted blind spot which may be record breaking.

Quote:The way I see it, religion is a good guideline on how to live your life: Don't lie, treat your neighbor how you'd like to be treated, respect your elders, etc...

That's not religion or theology...


RE: Garbage Religion - olliebaba - 10-06-2017 12:11 PM

(10-06-2017 11:19 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 10:52 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I'm not a religious person, but I don't see too much of a difference between the essence of Islam and most other major religions.

Then you have a self inflicted blind spot which may be record breaking.

Quote:The way I see it, religion is a good guideline on how to live your life: Don't lie, treat your neighbor how you'd like to be treated, respect your elders, etc...

That's not religion or theology...

Hmm, I don't know. I do know though that you will find these attributes that we are told to follow in the Bible. Even Jesus talked about them because they are in the Ten Commandments and the two most important commandments that Jesus mentioned, i.e., love God, love your neighbor.


RE: Garbage Religion - geosnooker2000 - 10-06-2017 12:23 PM

(10-06-2017 12:11 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 11:19 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 10:52 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  I'm not a religious person, but I don't see too much of a difference between the essence of Islam and most other major religions.

Then you have a self inflicted blind spot which may be record breaking.

Quote:The way I see it, religion is a good guideline on how to live your life: Don't lie, treat your neighbor how you'd like to be treated, respect your elders, etc...

That's not religion or theology...

Hmm, I don't know. I do know though that you will find these attributes that we are told to follow in the Bible. Even Jesus talked about them because they are in the Ten Commandments and the two most important commandments that Jesus mentioned, i.e., love God, love your neighbor.

I would just point out that those are great and all, but according to Jesus himself, that alone will not get you salvation in the hereafter. You must admit you are a sinner, even if you love God, and lover your neighbor as you lover yourself. And you must accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross as payment for your sin. Several places in the New Testament we are told that works without faith is not enough.


RE: Garbage Religion - olliebaba - 10-06-2017 12:27 PM

You're reading more into my post than what I wrote. I never said that doing good will get you into heaven.

Read it again.


RE: Garbage Religion - geosnooker2000 - 10-06-2017 12:39 PM

(10-06-2017 12:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  You're reading more into my post than what I wrote. I never said that doing good will get you into heaven.

Read it again.

Sorry, didn't mean to infer something you didn't imply. Just drawing a distinction between Islam and Christianity. As you may know, Islam is all about works.


RE: Garbage Religion - Ohio Poly - 10-06-2017 12:39 PM

(10-06-2017 12:06 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.


Nice try, but he was an atheist. Also, a registered Democrat.


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NRA guy.


RE: Garbage Religion - geosnooker2000 - 10-06-2017 12:44 PM

(10-06-2017 12:39 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 12:06 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:34 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Wasn't the Vegas shooter a Christian.


Nice try, but he was an atheist. Also, a registered Democrat.


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NRA guy.

I heard a report yesterday that the NRA gives (on average) 3 mill per year to over 400 congressmen and senators. So that means they give to democrats as well as republicans.