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Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - ohio1317 - 09-10-2017 06:40 PM
Teams with 1st Loss Week 2:
Ohio U.
Cincinnati
Northwestern
Iowa State
Boston College
Texas State
UAB
Fresno State
Tulane
Pittsburgh
Arkansas
Virginia
Syracuse
Louisiana-Lafayette
Ohio State
Auburn
Stanford
Notre Dame
Kansas
Nebraska
Hawaii
Marshall
Idaho
North Texas
Missouri
Louisiana Tech
Western Kentucky
New Mexico
Boise State
Arizona
Arizona State
Percent of Undefeated Teams with 1st Loss
Week 0/1: 36.15% (47/130)
Week 2: 37.35% (31/83)
Maximum possible Undefeated Teams at End of the Regular Season:
11: We lost 2 this week as the Sun Belt can now only have one team finish undefeated and Notre Dame lost. That leaves us with 10 possible conference champs who can end the year unbeaten plus independent Army.
Week 2 Thoughts:
-Idaho was removed from this list for the last time with their loss to UNLV. As we will eventually expand this out to a 1 loss team list too though, I will continue to make notes on them until they lose one more.
-Through 2 weeks, we, for the most part, have avoided any conference having a total disaster. Every one of the power conference continues to have undefeated teams seriously in the national title chase. The most at danger in that regard this week were probably the ACC and Big 12, but with Clemson taking down Auburn, Oklahoma beating Ohio State, and TCU holding strong vs. Arkansas, both conferences are still on solid footing (not that both couldn’t have got back in it, but a big perception gap was possible with losses there).
-On the Group of 5 level, only the Sun Belt seems to have truly blown its best chance at getting the New Years Six bid. Given conference strength, it likely would take an undefeated team from the conference and the only remaining one is Coastal Carolina who is not eligible for a bowl this year due to being in a transition to I-A status. Only remaining hope would have to include one of the 1-loss teams in the conference having a monster upset game vs. someone very good. For the NY6 bid, the American would seem to have the strong advantage right now with 7 remaining undefeated teams although a few other teams from other conference are certainly very much on radar (particularly San Diego State).
-With Georgia winning at Notre Dame, Army is our final independent undefeated team. They play Ohio State next week.
Week 3 Thoughts:
-We have 9 games between undefeated teams next week. They are: Illinois @ South Florida, Air Force @ Michigan, UCLA @ Memphis, SMU @ TCU, LSU @ Mississippi State, Kansas State @ Vanderbilt, Kentucky @ South Carolina, Clemson @ Louisville, Ole Miss @ Cal
-1-loss Idaho plays at Western Michigan
Remaining Undefeated Teams: ACC: 6, American: 7, Big 12: 5, Big Ten: 8, Conference USA: 2, MAC: 3, Mountain West: 2, PAC-12: 8, SEC: 9, Sun Belt: 1, independents: 1, total: 52
Clemson
Maryland
Wake Forest
Duke
Miami (FL)
Virginia Tech
Colorado
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
Connecticut
Louisville
South Florida
Illinois
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Penn State
Wisconsin
Memphis
Central Florida
Houston
Southern Methodist
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Toledo
Air Force
San Diego State
Texas Christian
Utah
California
Oregon
Southern California
UCLA
Washington
Washington State
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Louisiana State
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Army
Navy
UTSA
Old Dominion
(Coastal Carolina)
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - Frog in the Kitchen Sink - 09-10-2017 08:45 PM
Good job.
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - Gamecock - 09-11-2017 08:34 AM
Could Coastal Carolina theoretically play in a New Years Six bowl? I know FCS schools can and have received votes in the poll before, if they went 12-0 is there anything to stop them from getting in?
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - BePcr07 - 09-11-2017 08:49 AM
(09-11-2017 08:34 AM)Gamecock Wrote: Could Coastal Carolina theoretically play in a New Years Six bowl? I know FCS schools can and have received votes in the poll before, if they went 12-0 is there anything to stop them from getting in?
Unfortunately, they are ineligible due to the FCS-to-FBS transition rules so they can't even make a bowl game this season. Next year, they can. I think this rule is crap along with the very recently overruled ban on immediately playing upon transfer. If a school is an FBS school and they play an FBS schedule, they should be eligible. Coastal Carolina's schedule this season has only 1 FCS school. They should be allowed, but aren't.
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - TrojanCampaign - 09-11-2017 09:01 AM
(09-11-2017 08:34 AM)Gamecock Wrote: Could Coastal Carolina theoretically play in a New Years Six bowl? I know FCS schools can and have received votes in the poll before, if they went 12-0 is there anything to stop them from getting in?
However, if there is a shortage of bowl teams I'm certain there would be an exception made for them.
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - ohio1317 - 09-11-2017 07:53 PM
They also wouldn't be eligible for a conference championship game if the conference had one this year (they add one next year).
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - ohio1317 - 09-11-2017 07:55 PM
(09-11-2017 08:49 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:(09-11-2017 08:34 AM)Gamecock Wrote: Could Coastal Carolina theoretically play in a New Years Six bowl? I know FCS schools can and have received votes in the poll before, if they went 12-0 is there anything to stop them from getting in?
Unfortunately, they are ineligible due to the FCS-to-FBS transition rules so they can't even make a bowl game this season. Next year, they can. I think this rule is crap along with the very recently overruled ban on immediately playing upon transfer. If a school is an FBS school and they play an FBS schedule, they should be eligible. Coastal Carolina's schedule this season has only 1 FCS school. They should be allowed, but aren't.
I am wondering if part of the reason is they do not have to have a full complement of FBS schools on schedule. Maybe I am wrong on that, but I feel other transitions teams had far more FCS teams remaining on schedule.
If so, a good new rule would allow them to participate, but only letting them count one FCS win (same as everyone else).
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - toddjnsn - 09-11-2017 09:22 PM
Quote:However, if there is a shortage of bowl teams I'm certain there would be an exception made for them.
Yes, for a bowl. But they couldn't pick them for a NY6 bowl if they won their conference. With a (very possibly) enough shortage of standard bowl-eligible teams, they would be allowed in. I'm sure ESPN would finagle to set something up if they were 12-0 to play a top mid-major who didn't get to get into the NY6 bowl, to at least give them a nice one.
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - Gamecock - 09-12-2017 03:12 PM
(09-11-2017 09:22 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:Quote:However, if there is a shortage of bowl teams I'm certain there would be an exception made for them.
Yes, for a bowl. But they couldn't pick them for a NY6 bowl if they won their conference. With a (very possibly) enough shortage of standard bowl-eligible teams, they would be allowed in. I'm sure ESPN would finagle to set something up if they were 12-0 to play a top mid-major who didn't get to get into the NY6 bowl, to at least give them a nice one.
Obviously I don't see it happening, but if they won out with basically an identical schedule as every other G5 schedule it would make for some interesting debate. I'm honestly not sure why this is counted as a transitional year if they are playing a full conference schedule and only 1 FCS team.
RE: Remaining Undefeated Teams Before Week 3 - mturn017 - 09-12-2017 03:18 PM
(09-12-2017 03:12 PM)Gamecock Wrote:(09-11-2017 09:22 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:Quote:However, if there is a shortage of bowl teams I'm certain there would be an exception made for them.
Yes, for a bowl. But they couldn't pick them for a NY6 bowl if they won their conference. With a (very possibly) enough shortage of standard bowl-eligible teams, they would be allowed in. I'm sure ESPN would finagle to set something up if they were 12-0 to play a top mid-major who didn't get to get into the NY6 bowl, to at least give them a nice one.
Obviously I don't see it happening, but if they won out with basically an identical schedule as every other G5 schedule it would make for some interesting debate. I'm honestly not sure why this is counted as a transitional year if they are playing a full conference schedule and only 1 FCS team.
Them's just the rules. IDK what sense it makes.
They play UAB, UMASS, W. Illinois & 9 Sun Belt games. Even if they won out the rest of the G5 champs would have to have 2 or maybe three losses for them to be picked even if they weren't in transition.
edit:
my bad they play Arkansas too.