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Britain to ban non-electric cars - bullet - 07-26-2017 11:23 AM
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40726868
Britain has totalitarian courts as well. I have a feeling the Brexit reaction will be mild compared to this one. London will be fine with it and the rest of the country will rise.
All sales of new petrol and diesel cars will cease in the UK by 2040, under plans to tackle air pollution.
But with electric cars currently accounting for less than 1% of new sales, the switch will mean seismic changes, and gives rise to a host of pressing questions.
Why are petrol and diesel cars being banned?
Poor air quality is the "biggest environmental risk to public health in the UK" - thought to be linked to about 40,000 premature deaths a year in the UK - the government says. While air pollution has been mostly falling in the UK, in many cities nitrogen oxides- which form part of the discharge from car exhausts - regularly breach safe levels .
Diesel vehicles produce the overwhelming majority of nitrogen oxide gases coming from roadside sources.
The government was ordered by the courts to produce new plans to tackle illegal levels of harmful pollutant nitrogen dioxide, a form of the nitrogen oxide pollutants emitted by vehicles.
Hybrid vehicles, which combine petrol and electric motors, will not be included in the sales ban.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - HeartOfDixie - 07-26-2017 11:30 AM
These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - stinkfist - 07-26-2017 11:31 AM
(07-26-2017 11:23 AM)bullet Wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40726868
Britain has totalitarian courts as well. I have a feeling the Brexit reaction will be mild compared to this one. London will be fine with it and the rest of the country will rise.
All sales of new petrol and diesel cars will cease in the UK by 2040, under plans to tackle air pollution.
But with electric cars currently accounting for less than 1% of new sales, the switch will mean seismic changes, and gives rise to a host of pressing questions.
Why are petrol and diesel cars being banned?
Poor air quality is the "biggest environmental risk to public health in the UK" - thought to be linked to about 40,000 premature deaths a year in the UK - the government says. While air pollution has been mostly falling in the UK, in many cities nitrogen oxides- which form part of the discharge from car exhausts - regularly breach safe levels .
Diesel vehicles produce the overwhelming majority of nitrogen oxide gases coming from roadside sources.
The government was ordered by the courts to produce new plans to tackle illegal levels of harmful pollutant nitrogen dioxide, a form of the nitrogen oxide pollutants emitted by vehicles.
Hybrid vehicles, which combine petrol and electric motors, will not be included in the sales ban.
with their footprint, climate, numbers, and timeframe planning........makes perfect sense from the former empire....
regardless, the planet will be just fine....
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - Bull_Is_Back - 07-26-2017 11:35 AM
"All sales of new petrol and diesel cars will cease in the UK by 2040, under plans to tackle air pollution."
Oh yea the politicians in office today will really pay the price if this goes badly..... How brave of them
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - MplsBison - 07-26-2017 11:37 AM
Good for them.
All the more reason to start ramping down investment in oil production companies.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - VA49er - 07-26-2017 11:38 AM
(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
Agree 100%
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - stinkfist - 07-26-2017 11:41 AM
(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
the best part of long term planning is understanding how quickly things can change relative to investment....
I'm not getting ya on this one....
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - Ohio Poly - 07-26-2017 12:52 PM
(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
The deadline will be revised downward. 2040 was just chosen to break the ice.
The ICE will be gone from Britain by 2025 and the U.S. will follow suit.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - HeartOfDixie - 07-26-2017 12:58 PM
(07-26-2017 12:52 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
The deadline will be revised downward. 2040 was just chosen to break the ice.
That makes it all the more idiotic then.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - hoopfan - 07-26-2017 01:06 PM
(07-26-2017 12:52 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
The deadline will be revised downward. 2040 was just chosen to break the ice.
as opposed to the people?
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - VA49er - 07-26-2017 01:13 PM
(07-26-2017 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
the best part of long term planning is understanding how quickly things can change relative to investment....
I'm not getting ya on this one....
Nothing wrong with long term planning as long as one doesn't put too much faith in the "long term" part. It's like looking at a companies 5 year financial projections. Maybe the first couple years numbers will be on point but usually year 5 is a fantasy.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - stinkfist - 07-26-2017 02:01 PM
(07-26-2017 01:13 PM)VA49er Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
the best part of long term planning is understanding how quickly things can change relative to investment....
I'm not getting ya on this one....
Nothing wrong with long term planning as long as one doesn't put too much faith in the "long term" part. It's like looking at a companies 5 year financial projections. Maybe the first couple years numbers will be on point but usually year 5 is a fantasy.
you obviously whiffed my point.....
that's okay...
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - VA49er - 07-26-2017 02:10 PM
(07-26-2017 02:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote:(07-26-2017 01:13 PM)VA49er Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
the best part of long term planning is understanding how quickly things can change relative to investment....
I'm not getting ya on this one....
Nothing wrong with long term planning as long as one doesn't put too much faith in the "long term" part. It's like looking at a companies 5 year financial projections. Maybe the first couple years numbers will be on point but usually year 5 is a fantasy.
you obviously whiffed my point.....
that's okay...
No, I got ya, just took it in another direction. The "how quickly things can change" pretty much said the same thing I did. lol
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - I45owl - 07-26-2017 02:58 PM
(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
My grandparents grew up riding a horse and carriage into town. Who am I to draft a rule now about what kind of transportation my grandkids will be able to use?
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - MplsBison - 07-26-2017 03:10 PM
Your grandparents horse didn't combust fossil fuels. That's why
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - bullet - 07-26-2017 03:11 PM
(07-26-2017 02:58 PM)I45owl Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
My grandparents grew up riding a horse and carriage into town. Who am I to draft a rule now about what kind of transportation my grandkids will be able to use?
I'm old enough to remember when they thought jet packs might be a real possibility in the consumer market in the 90s or early 2000s. There was an episode of That 70s Show where Red imagines the future in 10-20 years and he has a jetpack to commute to work.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - Bull_Is_Back - 07-26-2017 03:24 PM
(07-26-2017 03:10 PM)MplsBison Wrote: Your grandparents horse didn't combust fossil fuels. That's why
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RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - Paul M - 07-26-2017 03:45 PM
If batteries can get them flying cars off the ground....
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - Paul M - 07-26-2017 03:45 PM
(07-26-2017 11:37 AM)MplsBison Wrote: Good for them.
All the more reason to start ramping down investment in oil production companies.
Bless your heart.
RE: Britain to ban non-electric cars - stinkfist - 07-26-2017 03:47 PM
(07-26-2017 02:10 PM)VA49er Wrote:(07-26-2017 02:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote:(07-26-2017 01:13 PM)VA49er Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:(07-26-2017 11:30 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: These pronouncements that far out are just stupid.
the best part of long term planning is understanding how quickly things can change relative to investment....
I'm not getting ya on this one....
Nothing wrong with long term planning as long as one doesn't put too much faith in the "long term" part. It's like looking at a companies 5 year financial projections. Maybe the first couple years numbers will be on point but usually year 5 is a fantasy.
you obviously whiffed my point.....
that's okay...
No, I got ya, just took it in another direction. The "how quickly things can change" pretty much said the same thing I did. lol
ya got me with a quicker/sleight o' hand draw on that one....well done!
kudos and