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RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - WKUYG - 07-13-2017 09:16 AM

(07-13-2017 09:05 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Here's your first poll. I'm kind of surprised at who emerged as #1, but I suppose it makes sense. First post also updated.

If you want to vote, it's never too late. I will update this poll daily as I can.

1. LT 336 (6)
2. WKU 334 (12)
3. MTSU 324 (5)
4. ODU 289 (2)
5. UTSA 274 (1)
6. USM 268 (1)
7. Mars 203
8. NT 193
9. FAU 174
10. FIU 113
11. Char 111
12. UTEP 83
13. Rice 68
14. UAB 65

Tier 1: LT, WKU, MTSU
Tier 2: ODU, UTSA, USM
Tier 3: Marshall, UNT, FAU
Tier 4: FIU, Charlotte, UTEP, Rice, UAB

Voters:
WKUFan518, mturn017, Hilltopper413, odu09, MarshallHerdFanz, techdawg28, Old Dominion, Blue Trombone, Luckyshot, TTT, LaTechBanjo, DaSaintFan, MoodyBlueRaider, wh49er, inutech, ODUi, Lizard Breath, EigenEagle, ATTALLABLAZE, goldeneagle21, ODU AGGIE, ODU2011, Side Show Joe, Noodles, 12thmonarch, Matt Murschel, Cnelson203

Voter Fanhood Count:

ODU 8
USM 5
LT 3
Mars 2
WKU 2
Char 1
MTSU 1
NT 1
UAB 1
UTSA 1
FAU 0
FIU 0
Rice 0
UTEP 0
Other 2 (GaSouth, Matt)

By my count there's over 30 picks counting the Orlando Sentinel Countdown with only 27 in your vote total. If you are going to list the voters maybe you should also list the ones you left out?

Then we all can see what you think is trolling and whats not


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - ThreeifbyLightning - 07-13-2017 09:22 AM

UTSA
Marshall
ODU
wkcc
La Tech
FAU
USM
MT
UTEP
NT
Rice
UAB
Charlotte
FIU


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - odu09 - 07-13-2017 09:45 AM

(07-13-2017 09:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  By my count there's over 30 picks counting the Orlando Sentinel Countdown with only 27 in your vote total. If you are going to list the voters maybe you should also list the ones you left out?

Then we all can see what you think is trolling and whats not

I only left one out, and you already called it out. I don't have intention on calling out troll posts.


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - Free bird - 07-13-2017 09:58 AM

UTSA
WKU
MT
ODU
USM
NT
LT
MARSH
FAU
RICE
FIU
CHAR
UAB
UTEP


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - WKUYG - 07-13-2017 10:05 AM

(07-13-2017 09:45 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  By my count there's over 30 picks counting the Orlando Sentinel Countdown with only 27 in your vote total. If you are going to list the voters maybe you should also list the ones you left out?

Then we all can see what you think is trolling and whats not

I only left one out, and you already called it out. I don't have intention on calling out troll posts.

I still counted 31 with the 1 troll
Going from page 1-6
8,9,5,4,4,1 with LeeistheKey being last before your update.

So take off the troll and the last one that still leave 2 from your vote total


CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - RonBurgundy - 07-13-2017 10:43 AM

Here's my humble opinion and my Top 6

1. Middle Tennessee. Returning one of the best QB's in the league and one of the best WR's in the country along with the same coaching staff. But can they play a lick of defense?

2. Louisiana Tech. Returning the same coaching staff and should be solid in the trenches. Would normally ding a team for a new QB but we've had a new starter for the past 3 seasons. Will the secondary play better and can we come close to replacing Henderson and Taylor's production?

3. Western Kentucky. Returning an extremely solid team but a new coaching staff will make it interesting to watch how everything develops.

The top 3 are really almost interchangable.

4. Marshall. Consistent team in the past with plenty of talent, should be competitive in the East. Was last year's team a fluke or have they been eating at Fat Patty's too much and lost their edge?

5. Old Dominion. Wilder has been building a solid program and this could be their year to show out against the top teams in the East.

6. UTSA. A program that has been making strides towards competing for the West title. Do they battle Tech in Ruston for the Western crown or does Frank Wilson have a sophomore slump?

Last 4 out: Southern Miss, UNT, Florida Twins


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - cb4029 - 07-13-2017 11:08 AM

(07-13-2017 09:08 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I realize they are hard to predict, but I just don't see UAB coming in last...

I will take last place for now. I think Rice and UAB will be strong this year. Rice just needs to tone down their head banger schedules and schedule a few wins every now and then.


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - FIU4Ever - 07-13-2017 11:25 AM

(07-13-2017 09:01 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 03:05 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  1. MTSU - Offense should carry them this season.. but need to get out of the WKU shadow this season
2. ODU - I'm putting ODU as my team to keep on chugging along from last year.
3. LT - Lots of West Teams could be plugged in here.. it'll be a dog fight for every C-USA west team.
4. WKU - Plug and play on that offense.. I don't see much of a drop for them.
5. UTSA - On their way up, I may have pushed them a little TOO high, but we'll see
6. USM - QB position decides where USM falls (bowling or not.. ) too much needed to make a run of a conference title.
7. UNT - On the right track.. but next year could REALLY be their season.
--- bowl cut off line --
8. Charlotte - they'll toy with making it bowling I believe
9. FAU - How many shortcuts and rules violations will Lane be accused of before the season's done though?
10. UTEP - Just not feelin' it for the Miners.
11. Marshall - Dumpster fire last year, need to get it straightened out or they could go to #13 easy.
12. FIU - Too many questions.. not enough answers.
13. UAB - Welcome back boys.. Bill Clark could have me thinking late season run though and I could have considered them as high as 9 or 10, but definitely wont' be on the bottom because of #14.
14. Rice - Is it baseball season yet?
What I love about this is only one of these schools coaches were the head coach at time when one of the largest NCAA academic scandals were going on.
Baylor is settling rape lawsuits for the period your current OC was at Baylor, so the comment is not far fetched.


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - owlcountry40 - 07-13-2017 11:38 AM

(07-13-2017 11:25 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:01 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 03:05 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  3. LT - Lots of West Teams could be plugged in here.. it'll be a dog fight for every C-USA west team.
4. WKU - Plug and play on that offense.. I don't see much of a drop for them.
1. MTSU - Offense should carry them this season.. but need to get out of the WKU shadow this season
2. ODU - I'm putting ODU as my team to keep on chugging along from last year.

5. UTSA - On their way up, I may have pushed them a little TOO high, but we'll see
6. USM - QB position decides where USM falls (bowling or not.. ) too much needed to make a run of a conference title.
7. UNT - On the right track.. but next year could REALLY be their season.
--- bowl cut off line --
8. Charlotte - they'll toy with making it bowling I believe
9. FAU - How many shortcuts and rules violations will Lane be accused of before the season's done though?
10. UTEP - Just not feelin' it for the Miners.
11. Marshall - Dumpster fire last year, need to get it straightened out or they could go to #13 easy.
12. FIU - Too many questions.. not enough answers.
13. UAB - Welcome back boys.. Bill Clark could have me thinking late season run though and I could have considered them as high as 9 or 10, but definitely wont' be on the bottom because of #14.
14. Rice - Is it baseball season yet?
What I love about this is only one of these schools coaches were the head coach at time when one of the largest NCAA academic scandals were going on.
Baylor is settling rape lawsuits for the period your current OC was at Baylor, so the comment is not far fetched.
The only thing was Kendal was said to have done was the "white women quote". The fake outrage over that was ridicules because most schools use girls to attract get athletes in one way or another.
Even watch ESPN when a big game is on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pj2zV5FdYU
"How dare you use sex to sell college sports"


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - Collin_Ellis - 07-13-2017 11:41 AM

1. Tech
2. MTSU
3. UTSA
4. WKU
5. ODU
6. USM
7. UNT
8. FAU
9. Marshall
10. FIU
11. Char
12. Rice
13. Utep
14. UAB


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - inutech - 07-13-2017 11:42 AM

(07-13-2017 09:08 AM)odu09 Wrote:  I realize they are hard to predict, but I just don't see UAB coming in last...

See, I've been surprised that anyone has been picking them anywhere else (much less the one that has them so high).

What does that say about a program if UAB comes back and does finish ahead of them?


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - MU ATO - 07-13-2017 12:23 PM

(07-12-2017 07:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:45 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  Marshall
Southern Miss
Rice
UTEP
UAB
LA Tech
MTSU
WKU
FIU
UTSA
FAU
NORTH Texas
ODU
Charlotte


Lets see if the guy running this flags it and calls it out for just what it is....

it's clear you put the school that were in CUSA 2012 back then listed the other.


I say this and I honestly don't give a crap where you list anyone...its meaningless

You're right. It's meaningless as ALL preseason polls are. So anyone who supports a school should have them #1 as they have just as much right to the #1 spot as the next school. What you claim as clear is murky. As I said in a previous post I listed Marshall #1 as should be then listed the schools as I thought of them. My rankings are no more meaningful or meaningless than the next one listed in this thread and to make a case means that you or whomever is making the case is saying that their opinion has more value than the next. So the purpose is flawed.

Polls shouldn't even come out until mid to late October. Everything else is just fluff.


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - chidave - 07-13-2017 12:23 PM

1. WKU (I have to pick them till someone knocks them off)
2. LT
3. MT
4. UTSA
5. ODU
6. Southern Miss
7. Marshall
8. North Texas
9. Charlotte
10. FAU
11. UTEP
12. Rice
13. FIU
14. UAB


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - goliath74 - 07-13-2017 12:52 PM

1. WKU
2. MTSU
3. LaTech
4. FAU
5. USM
6. ODU
7. UTSA
8. UNT
9. Marshall
10. FIU
11. UTEP
12. Charlotte
13. Rice
14. UAB


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - KAjunRaider - 07-13-2017 01:13 PM

Which school as the best defense in C-USA ?


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - Collin_Ellis - 07-13-2017 02:55 PM

(07-13-2017 01:13 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Which school as the best defense in C-USA ?

Umm.. pass?

It's hard to say really. The league is an offensive league and CFB in general is setup for offenses to succeed. Based off the last few years I'd probably say USM. It's certainly not Tech. Although I think we have some really talented d lineman and DBs.


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - wkuhilltopperfan - 07-13-2017 03:12 PM

(07-13-2017 02:55 PM)Collin_Ellis Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 01:13 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Which school as the best defense in C-USA ?

Umm.. pass?

It's hard to say really. The league is an offensive league and CFB in general is setup for offenses to succeed. Based off the last few years I'd probably say USM. It's certainly not Tech. Although I think we have some really talented d lineman and DBs.

I was told that our defense might be the strongest part our team this year, if so WKU should be solid..... if not we might struggle, i expect our offense to drop off some


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - wh49er - 07-13-2017 03:20 PM

(07-13-2017 12:23 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  You're right. It's meaningless as ALL preseason polls are. So anyone who supports a school should have them #1 as they have just as much right to the #1 spot as the next school. What you claim as clear is murky. As I said in a previous post I listed Marshall #1 as should be then listed the schools as I thought of them. My rankings are no more meaningful or meaningless than the next one listed in this thread and to make a case means that you or whomever is making the case is saying that their opinion has more value than the next. So the purpose is flawed.

Polls shouldn't even come out until mid to late October. Everything else is just fluff.


Then why even bother wasting your time and typing a list? 01-wingedeagle


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - Collin_Ellis - 07-13-2017 03:21 PM

(07-13-2017 03:12 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 02:55 PM)Collin_Ellis Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 01:13 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Which school as the best defense in C-USA ?

Umm.. pass?

It's hard to say really. The league is an offensive league and CFB in general is setup for offenses to succeed. Based off the last few years I'd probably say USM. It's certainly not Tech. Although I think we have some really talented d lineman and DBs.

I was told that our defense might be the strongest part our team this year, if so WKU should be solid..... if not we might struggle, i expect our offense to drop off some

WKU will be interesting to watch. It will be very interesting to see how the offense flows post Brohm. He called plays didn't he? He was without question the best coach in the league last season. That is a huge loss imo. Talent is there at QB so the offense should still put up points. I don't think it will be at same rate but that doesn't mean the WKU offense won't be in the top 3 in the league. Defense in our league is all about turnovers. Points will be scored but if you can win the TO battle you will win some games. ODU is suppose to have a good defense but we haven't played them in so long I really don't know much about them.


RE: CUSAbbs Preseason Football Poll - WKUYG - 07-13-2017 03:30 PM

(07-13-2017 01:13 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Which school as the best defense in C-USA ?

Last year Western had the best scoring defense and that says a lot considering how quick Western went down the field.

Point per game

Western Kentucky 24.6
Old Dominion 27.2
UTSA 27.9
Southern Mississippi 29.5
North Texas 32.6
Louisiana Tech 33.6
Charlotte 34.6
Florida International 34.8
UTEP 34.9
Marshall 35.3
Middle Tennessee State 35.8
Rice 37.3
Florida Atlantic 39.8


Yards per game
Southern Mississippi 324.8
Western Kentucky 376.6
Old Dominion 383.9
UTSA 392
UTEP 419.3
Louisiana Tech 420.9
Florida International 434.8
North Texas 440.2
Middle Tennessee State 449.5
Charlotte 453.3
Marshall 456
Rice 504.8
Florida Atlantic 513.8


Yards per play
Western Kentucky 5.2
Old Dominion 5.4
Middle Tennessee State 5.5
Southern Mississippi 5.7
UTSA 5.7
Louisiana Tech 5.8
Charlotte 6
UTEP 6.1
North Texas 6.1
Florida International 6.4
Marshall 6.4
Florida Atlantic 6.9
Rice 7.5