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Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - CrimsonPhantom - 06-22-2017 11:45 AM
Quote:Senior figures in the Church of England "colluded" with a former bishop who abused young men, an independent review has found.
Peter Ball, who is now 85, was jailed for 32 months in October 2015 after admitting sex offences against 18 teenagers and young men.
The former bishop of Lewes and bishop of Gloucester carried out the abuse between the 1970s and 1990s
Dame Moira Gibb's review criticises ex-Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey.
He accepted the criticism and apologised to Ball's victims.
The review found Lord Carey received seven letters from families and individuals following the arrest and cautioning of Ball in 1992 for gross indecency - when he stood down as bishop of Gloucester - but failed to pass six of them to the police.
He also chose not to put Ball on the Church of England's "Lambeth List", which names clergymen about whom questions of suitability for ministry have been raised.
Ball was given funds authorised by Lord Carey to support him.
Lord Carey also wrote to Ball's identical twin brother, Michael Ball - another bishop - in 1993 saying: "I believed him to be basically innocent".
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-40368573
RE: Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - ericsrevenge76 - 06-23-2017 02:00 AM
The NT specifically warns against forbidding men to marry. But we live in a day were the doctrines of men dominate over the doctrine of the bible.
1Timothy 4:3
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
RE: Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - SuperFlyBCat - 06-23-2017 06:33 AM
(06-23-2017 02:00 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: The NT specifically warns against forbidding men to marry. But we live in a day were the doctrines of men dominate over the doctrine of the bible.
1Timothy 4:3
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
Anglican Priests Bishops are allowed to be married. Pedos and those that want to rape or sexually assault teens take jobs that give them access to these kids. It happens in the Protestant denominations in the USA as much as Catholic churches.
RE: Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - Paul M - 06-23-2017 07:29 AM
Homosexuals and pedo's aren't looking for wifes. They're looking for males.
Warning against forbidding men to marry doesn't apply. The warnings against homosexuality and other abominations do.
RE: Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - ericsrevenge76 - 06-23-2017 07:37 AM
(06-23-2017 06:33 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Anglican Priests Bishops are allowed to be married. Pedos and those that want to rape or sexually assault teens take jobs that give them access to these kids. It happens in the Protestant denominations in the USA as much as Catholic churches.
I don't really care if its catholic or protestant, I don't see how that matters.
This is most common is sects that don't allow the men to marry. Perhaps, as you say this particular person was allowed to marry.
The cover up is just as disgusting.
RE: Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - EverRespect - 06-23-2017 08:17 AM
(06-23-2017 07:37 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:(06-23-2017 06:33 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Anglican Priests Bishops are allowed to be married. Pedos and those that want to rape or sexually assault teens take jobs that give them access to these kids. It happens in the Protestant denominations in the USA as much as Catholic churches.
I don't really care if its catholic or protestant, I don't see how that matters.
This is most common is sects that don't allow the men to marry. Perhaps, as you say this particular person was allowed to marry.
The cover up is just as disgusting.
The cover up is worse, IMO. Perverts are going to be attracted to jobs that maximize 1-on-1 opportunities with kids, be it ministry, teaching, coaching, or volunteering with the scouts, YMCA, or Boys and Girls Clubs. You can run backrounds, but unless they've been busted, nothing is going to show up.
RE: Church 'colluded' with sex abuse bishop Peter Ball - Crebman - 06-23-2017 08:23 AM
(06-23-2017 07:37 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:(06-23-2017 06:33 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Anglican Priests Bishops are allowed to be married. Pedos and those that want to rape or sexually assault teens take jobs that give them access to these kids. It happens in the Protestant denominations in the USA as much as Catholic churches.
I don't really care if its catholic or protestant, I don't see how that matters.
This is most common is sects that don't allow the men to marry. Perhaps, as you say this particular person was allowed to marry.
The cover up is just as disgusting.
Anglican clergy are allowed to marry - in fact, I'm betting that the vast majority are married - no different than Baptists, Methodists, etc.
This is a case of a pedo that "took a job" that put him around kids (with a fair amount of "trust") and the parents weren't likely to suspect him of doing stuff to their kids.
The Archbishop obviously made a huge error in judgement by not having this guy investigated just like other pedos are - by the police.
Pedos can occupy any job, it's just worse when it happens to be clergy as they know what they are doing is sinful and they have more of a duty than the average Joe.