(05-28-2017 08:51 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  Sun Belt teams have to start delivering in these games. Any different bounce of a fumble against Tennessee last year would have made an immeasurable amount of difference for this conference.

(05-27-2017 03:14 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  It's crazy that no CUSA match ups are on that list, you know, since they have so much more perceived respect than us and all...

(05-28-2017 12:24 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 03:14 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  It's crazy that no CUSA match ups are on that list, you know, since they have so much more perceived respect than us and all...

I respect WKU. They're turning into a good program and may end up being one of the better programs to have moved up from FCS since 2000, after a rough few years of transition. Put them back in the Sun Belt and they'd compete right away with App, A-State, and Troy in the conference title chase.

The rest? I doubt those teams would have any better of a conference record if they were plopped in the Sun Belt than they have as C-USA programs.

Also, the appearance of two SBC teams on this list is testament to good scheduling by Sun Belt AD's as well as how well the teams have performed.

(05-28-2017 08:32 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 12:24 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 03:14 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  It's crazy that no CUSA match ups are on that list, you know, since they have so much more perceived respect than us and all...

I respect WKU. They're turning into a good program and may end up being one of the better programs to have moved up from FCS since 2000, after a rough few years of transition. Put them back in the Sun Belt and they'd compete right away with App, A-State, and Troy in the conference title chase.

The rest? I doubt those teams would have any better of a conference record if they were plopped in the Sun Belt than they have as C-USA programs.

Also, the appearance of two SBC teams on this list is testament to good scheduling by Sun Belt AD's as well as how well the teams have performed.

Michael you seem like a smart fella until about sentence three.

(05-29-2017 05:18 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 08:32 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 12:24 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 03:14 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  It's crazy that no CUSA match ups are on that list, you know, since they have so much more perceived respect than us and all...

I respect WKU. They're turning into a good program and may end up being one of the better programs to have moved up from FCS since 2000, after a rough few years of transition. Put them back in the Sun Belt and they'd compete right away with App, A-State, and Troy in the conference title chase.

The rest? I doubt those teams would have any better of a conference record if they were plopped in the Sun Belt than they have as C-USA programs.

Also, the appearance of two SBC teams on this list is testament to good scheduling by Sun Belt AD's as well as how well the teams have performed.

Michael you seem like a smart fella until about sentence three.

You don't think WKU would compete for a Sun Belt title in football if they returned? It's all hypothetical, but still.

I'm not saying the league should try to bring them back. I'm just saying if for whatever reason they did come back, they'd be one of the favorites to win the league title.

(05-29-2017 07:13 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 05:18 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 08:32 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 12:24 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(05-27-2017 03:14 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  It's crazy that no CUSA match ups are on that list, you know, since they have so much more perceived respect than us and all...

I respect WKU. They're turning into a good program and may end up being one of the better programs to have moved up from FCS since 2000, after a rough few years of transition. Put them back in the Sun Belt and they'd compete right away with App, A-State, and Troy in the conference title chase.

The rest? I doubt those teams would have any better of a conference record if they were plopped in the Sun Belt than they have as C-USA programs.

Also, the appearance of two SBC teams on this list is testament to good scheduling by Sun Belt AD's as well as how well the teams have performed.

Michael you seem like a smart fella until about sentence three.

You don't think WKU would compete for a Sun Belt title in football if they returned? It's all hypothetical, but still.

I'm not saying the league should try to bring them back. I'm just saying if for whatever reason they did come back, they'd be one of the favorites to win the league title.

WKU would even out the conference and give Ark state a little more than is currently offered by the divisions but limiting championship prospects to those three is wishful thinking. Let's not forget GS has a coach with more than one year at the helm and an OC that has the potential to add 10 or 15 yards of offense, which may well have changed the outcome of the Ark state and UL games last year and may have been enough to close the 10 point gap in Mississippi. We'll see but omitting GS who beat Troy last year given the dumpster fire is a bit CrAppish.

(05-28-2017 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm not sure how Troy/Boise got on that list. This is not exactly the Boise team that has been challenging for Access bowls. Don't see fans trolling the channel lineup looking for that particular game.

I see the value in App/Georgia given it's an improving P5 against one of the top G5's in the country, and it's enough that it got an ESPN Primetime telecast.

(05-29-2017 12:46 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm not sure how Troy/Boise got on that list. This is not exactly the Boise team that has been challenging for Access bowls. Don't see fans trolling the channel lineup looking for that particular game.

I see the value in App/Georgia given it's an improving P5 against one of the top G5's in the country, and it's enough that it got an ESPN Primetime telecast.

Weren't both of those teams 10-3 last year?

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(05-29-2017 02:01 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:46 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm not sure how Troy/Boise got on that list. This is not exactly the Boise team that has been challenging for Access bowls. Don't see fans trolling the channel lineup looking for that particular game.

I see the value in App/Georgia given it's an improving P5 against one of the top G5's in the country, and it's enough that it got an ESPN Primetime telecast.

Weren't both of those teams 10-3 last year?

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Yeah. His point though was that Boise State isn't what they were 2008-2011 where they went 50-3. Those were the glory years for Boise State and may be the best they ever have. From 2013 to 2016 they're 39-14. They are still a Top 3 G5 program, but they aren't anywhere near being in a national championship discussion like they were. Overall people still regard them as a dominant G5 program, and Troy had one of the biggest turnarounds in college football history. This is a dream match-up for Troy that fits well within in our range of beatable opponents.

10-3 in the MWC vs the SBC is a little different. I still it's a winnable matchup, but it would be an upset if we beat them.

(05-29-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:01 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:46 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm not sure how Troy/Boise got on that list. This is not exactly the Boise team that has been challenging for Access bowls. Don't see fans trolling the channel lineup looking for that particular game.

I see the value in App/Georgia given it's an improving P5 against one of the top G5's in the country, and it's enough that it got an ESPN Primetime telecast.

Weren't both of those teams 10-3 last year?

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Yeah. His point though was that Boise State isn't what they were 2008-2011 where they went 50-3. Those were the glory years for Boise State and may be the best they ever have. From 2013 to 2016 they're 39-14. They are still a Top 3 G5 program, but they aren't anywhere near being in a national championship discussion like they were. Overall people still regard them as a dominant G5 program, and Troy had one of the biggest turnarounds in college football history. This is a dream match-up for Troy that fits well within in our range of beatable opponents.

10-3 in the MWC vs the SBC is a little different. I still it's a winnable matchup, but it would be an upset if we beat them.

Boise has made a name and brand for themselves. It will be a highly watched game.

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(05-29-2017 07:26 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:01 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:46 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-28-2017 11:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I'm not sure how Troy/Boise got on that list. This is not exactly the Boise team that has been challenging for Access bowls. Don't see fans trolling the channel lineup looking for that particular game.

I see the value in App/Georgia given it's an improving P5 against one of the top G5's in the country, and it's enough that it got an ESPN Primetime telecast.

Weren't both of those teams 10-3 last year?

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Yeah. His point though was that Boise State isn't what they were 2008-2011 where they went 50-3. Those were the glory years for Boise State and may be the best they ever have. From 2013 to 2016 they're 39-14. They are still a Top 3 G5 program, but they aren't anywhere near being in a national championship discussion like they were. Overall people still regard them as a dominant G5 program, and Troy had one of the biggest turnarounds in college football history. This is a dream match-up for Troy that fits well within in our range of beatable opponents.

10-3 in the MWC vs the SBC is a little different. I still it's a winnable matchup, but it would be an upset if we beat them.

Boise has made a name and brand for themselves. It will be a highly watched game.

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Absolutely the power of becoming a big time brand through winning. Even when they're "down" they still get national attention.

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(05-29-2017 08:29 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 07:26 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:01 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:46 PM)panama Wrote:  Weren't both of those teams 10-3 last year?

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Yeah. His point though was that Boise State isn't what they were 2008-2011 where they went 50-3. Those were the glory years for Boise State and may be the best they ever have. From 2013 to 2016 they're 39-14. They are still a Top 3 G5 program, but they aren't anywhere near being in a national championship discussion like they were. Overall people still regard them as a dominant G5 program, and Troy had one of the biggest turnarounds in college football history. This is a dream match-up for Troy that fits well within in our range of beatable opponents.

10-3 in the MWC vs the SBC is a little different. I still it's a winnable matchup, but it would be an upset if we beat them.

Boise has made a name and brand for themselves. It will be a highly watched game.

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Absolutely the power of becoming a big time brand through winning. Even when they're "down" they still get national attention.

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I mean if 10-3 is down...

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(05-30-2017 12:14 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 08:29 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 07:26 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:05 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:01 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Yeah. His point though was that Boise State isn't what they were 2008-2011 where they went 50-3. Those were the glory years for Boise State and may be the best they ever have. From 2013 to 2016 they're 39-14. They are still a Top 3 G5 program, but they aren't anywhere near being in a national championship discussion like they were. Overall people still regard them as a dominant G5 program, and Troy had one of the biggest turnarounds in college football history. This is a dream match-up for Troy that fits well within in our range of beatable opponents.

10-3 in the MWC vs the SBC is a little different. I still it's a winnable matchup, but it would be an upset if we beat them.

Boise has made a name and brand for themselves. It will be a highly watched game.

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Absolutely the power of becoming a big time brand through winning. Even when they're "down" they still get national attention.

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I mean if 10-3 is down...

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Again I specifically put down in quotes to reiterate the previous posters point. I thought that was clear enough.

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