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[split] Norvell extension thread - Memphis, Nashville, Hernando, population, crime discussion - Hernando Hills Tiger - 05-12-2017 05:13 PM

(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - 21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha - 05-13-2017 01:15 AM

(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - Hernando Hills Tiger - 05-13-2017 07:21 AM

(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

I lived there 47 years and had my home burgled several times, forced to endure that crazy politics and have had guns pulled on me more than once. Been in Hernando 12 years and have had no such issues. Live somewhere else and you might be surprised at how comfortable you can become.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - MemphisFan95 - 05-13-2017 07:43 AM

(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

228 murders in 2016


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - TiminMem23 - 05-13-2017 07:57 AM

(05-13-2017 07:21 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

I lived there 47 years and had my home burgled several times, forced to endure that crazy politics and have had guns pulled on me more than once. Been in Hernando 12 years and have had no such issues. Live somewhere else and you might be surprised at how comfortable you can become.

Cost of living is a big upside of living in or around Memphis. If cost isn't an issue, as in Fuente's case, I can see why you'd prefer to live elsewhere. Particularly if you aren't from Memphis and have no family ties here.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 10:13 AM

(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

He wanted to make 3.2 million coaching at Va Tech of the ACC.

If there was some Big 10 P5 in inner city Detroit and they offered him 5 million to come coach them...he'd get over the location pretty quick.

Of course some here LOVE to take swipes at Memphis any time they can.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 10:15 AM

(05-13-2017 07:43 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

228 murders in 2016

Don't sell drugs or join a gang and you'll be fine...the heard is simply thinning itself out here in M-town.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - chrisd11 - 05-13-2017 01:17 PM

(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

I've lived in the Memphis area for 40 years (Hernando) and I like Memphis because it's home

But I have also traveled a lot and speaking honestly Memphis is one of the crappiest, most depressing cities I've ever been to. Spend some time in Raleigh, Nashville, Kansas City, Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, San Diego, Dallas, etc and you realize just how crappy Memphis is. It's sad how it has stayed stagnant and floundered while a lot of other southern cities have boomed (Nashville, Atlanta, Charlotte). At least it's better than Birmingham and Jackson, MS though.

But it does have soul and character, and it's home


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - TiminMem23 - 05-13-2017 01:26 PM

(05-13-2017 10:13 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

He wanted to make 3.2 million coaching at Va Tech of the ACC.

If there was some Big 10 P5 in inner city Detroit and they offered him 5 million to come coach them...he'd get over the location pretty quick.

Of course some here LOVE to take swipes at Memphis any time they can.

Some cities don't have the problem of their own residents taking swipes at it. Charleston and San Diego being two examples. People love living in those towns.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 01:32 PM

(05-13-2017 01:17 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

I've lived in the Memphis area for 40 years (Hernando) and I like Memphis because it's home

But I have also traveled a lot and speaking honestly Memphis is one of the crappiest, most depressing cities I've ever been to. Spend some time in Raleigh, Nashville, Kansas City, Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, San Diego, Dallas, etc and you realize just how crappy Memphis is. It's sad how it has stayed stagnant and floundered while a lot of other southern cities have boomed (Nashville, Atlanta, Charlotte). At least it's better than Birmingham and Jackson, MS though.

But it does have soul and character, and it's home

I've lived in Memphis for 32 years. It has soul and it's real...like New Orleans.

I'll never understand the obsession with Nashville. I worked for Apple and lived roughly 6 months in Nashville opening the Green Hills store, and 3.5 months in Knoxville opening the West Town store.

both times I was very happy to return home to Memphis.

you say it's stayed stagnant...wut? in the 40 years you've lived here the Memphis metro area has added 150k while the city proper has added 30k.

there is this idea that more people must mean better people. I want Memphis to worry about crime, poverty, schools, and infrastructure...not how many people live here.

another way to put is I'd rather live in a nice city with 400,000 people over a crappy city with 750,000 in it.

EDIT: moreover, none of this has ANYTHING to do with Fuente...If Rutgers offered him 5 million per year he'd be coaching there, living just south of Newark NJ and he'd learn to love it.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - chrisd11 - 05-13-2017 01:41 PM

(05-13-2017 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:17 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 02:51 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is great news for the assistants but it does worry me some. In a way it is a page out of the Fuente book. He declined a raise for himself to make it easier to buy out when he was ready to leave.

He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

I've lived in the Memphis area for 40 years (Hernando) and I like Memphis because it's home

But I have also traveled a lot and speaking honestly Memphis is one of the crappiest, most depressing cities I've ever been to. Spend some time in Raleigh, Nashville, Kansas City, Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, San Diego, Dallas, etc and you realize just how crappy Memphis is. It's sad how it has stayed stagnant and floundered while a lot of other southern cities have boomed (Nashville, Atlanta, Charlotte). At least it's better than Birmingham and Jackson, MS though.

But it does have soul and character, and it's home

I've lived in Memphis for 32 years. It has soul and it's real...like New Orleans.

I'll never understand the obsession with Nashville. I worked for Apple and lived roughly 6 months in Nashville opening the Green Hills store, and 3.5 months in Knoxville opening the West Town store.

both times I was very happy to return home to Memphis.

you say it's stayed stagnant...wut? in the 40 years you've lived here the Memphis metro area has added 150k while the city proper has added 30k.

there is this idea that more people must mean better people. I want Memphis to worry about crime, poverty, schools, and infrastructure...not how many people live here.

another way to put is I'd rather live in a nice city with 400,000 people over a crappy city with 750,000 in it.

Memphis is one of the slowest growing metro areas in the country (stagnant)

It's inarguable, yet you are trying to argue it I guess


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 01:42 PM

(05-13-2017 01:41 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:32 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:17 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 01:15 AM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 05:13 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  He didn't want to raise his family in Memphis. I get it.

I don't get it. That just tells me Fuente didn't "get it", or "get" Memphis. I have lived here 65 years, and it's been a great experience. I very successfully raised three children here, who were prepared for the world when they "graduated" from Memphis. One has chosen to stay here and the other two are on opposite coasts, all successful in careers and life. Memphis is a great place to raise children for so many reasons.

I've lived in the Memphis area for 40 years (Hernando) and I like Memphis because it's home

But I have also traveled a lot and speaking honestly Memphis is one of the crappiest, most depressing cities I've ever been to. Spend some time in Raleigh, Nashville, Kansas City, Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, San Diego, Dallas, etc and you realize just how crappy Memphis is. It's sad how it has stayed stagnant and floundered while a lot of other southern cities have boomed (Nashville, Atlanta, Charlotte). At least it's better than Birmingham and Jackson, MS though.

But it does have soul and character, and it's home

I've lived in Memphis for 32 years. It has soul and it's real...like New Orleans.

I'll never understand the obsession with Nashville. I worked for Apple and lived roughly 6 months in Nashville opening the Green Hills store, and 3.5 months in Knoxville opening the West Town store.

both times I was very happy to return home to Memphis.

you say it's stayed stagnant...wut? in the 40 years you've lived here the Memphis metro area has added 150k while the city proper has added 30k.

there is this idea that more people must mean better people. I want Memphis to worry about crime, poverty, schools, and infrastructure...not how many people live here.

another way to put is I'd rather live in a nice city with 400,000 people over a crappy city with 750,000 in it.

Memphis is one of the slowest growing metro areas in the country (stagnant)

It's inarguable, yet you are trying to argue it I guess

I present facts. since you've lived here the metro area has added 150k while the city has added 30k

what have those people done for Memphis? bigger does not mean better.

I want a better Memphis, not a bigger Memphis.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - AlonsoWDC - 05-13-2017 03:40 PM

If you don't like what you see in Memphis over the past ten years as time's gone along, you're more than welcome to stay in Hernando.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - snowtiger - 05-13-2017 03:57 PM

(05-13-2017 03:40 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  If you don't like what you see in Memphis over the past ten years as time's gone along, you're more than welcome to stay in Hernando.

I found something with really kewl horns and a good singer.






RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - chrisd11 - 05-13-2017 05:09 PM

(05-13-2017 03:40 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  If you don't like what you see in Memphis over the past ten years as time's gone along, you're more than welcome to stay in Hernando.

I love downtown and midtown Memphis. Really a bigtime transformation there in the last several years. Most of East Memphis is very nice. The rest of Memphis is the problem.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 05:15 PM

(05-13-2017 05:09 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 03:40 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  If you don't like what you see in Memphis over the past ten years as time's gone along, you're more than welcome to stay in Hernando.

I love downtown and midtown Memphis. Really a bigtime transformation there in the last several years. Most of East Memphis is very nice. The rest of Memphis is the problem.

which is why I'd love to see Memphis contract to downtown and 'the loop'...Whitehaven, Frayser, Hickory Hill, Raleigh, and Cordova can go govern themselves.


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - chrisd11 - 05-13-2017 05:31 PM

Not a bad idea


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 05:44 PM

(05-13-2017 05:31 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Not a bad idea

of course I also support consolidation. I don't see a point of a Memphis Mayor and a Shelby County Mayor...Memphis Police and SCSO...Memphis City Council and Shelby County Commission

we're all in this together...there should just me a Shelby County Mayor, The Shelby County Commission, and the SCSO...like Nashville, Louisville, Miami, and many other cities.

way too much 'us vs them' in Memphis.

without Memphis jobs...there would be no Germantown/Collierville/Bartlett


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - Dynamos - 05-13-2017 05:45 PM

(05-13-2017 05:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 05:09 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 03:40 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  If you don't like what you see in Memphis over the past ten years as time's gone along, you're more than welcome to stay in Hernando.

I love downtown and midtown Memphis. Really a bigtime transformation there in the last several years. Most of East Memphis is very nice. The rest of Memphis is the problem.

which is why I'd love to see Memphis contract to downtown and 'the loop'...Whitehaven, Frayser, Hickory Hill, Raleigh, and Cordova can go govern themselves.

What about the people that live there?


RE: Norvell extended for one year and salary pool bump for assistants - UofMemphis - 05-13-2017 05:47 PM

(05-13-2017 05:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 05:15 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 05:09 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 03:40 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  If you don't like what you see in Memphis over the past ten years as time's gone along, you're more than welcome to stay in Hernando.

I love downtown and midtown Memphis. Really a bigtime transformation there in the last several years. Most of East Memphis is very nice. The rest of Memphis is the problem.

which is why I'd love to see Memphis contract to downtown and 'the loop'...Whitehaven, Frayser, Hickory Hill, Raleigh, and Cordova can go govern themselves.

What about the people that live there?

what about them? those municipalities I mentioned above existed as unincorporated cities/towns before...they can do it again.