Quote:The Valley Invites Valparaiso University

ST. LOUIS -- The Missouri Valley Conference Presidents Council has unanimously voted to extend a membership invitation to Valparaiso University, effective July 1, 2017. There will be no further comment pending the negotiation of terms.

(05-09-2017 10:17 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I don't think it would have hurt to go to 11 and a 20-game conference schedule, but this works too.

(05-09-2017 10:20 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA offices are getting some calls for the forseeable future.

I can believe the conference would do this. Sad this is the result. Completely validates Wichita. I wasn't a fan of them wanting to go to the AAC, felt selfish and wanted them to go to the A10, but, if this was the best the Valley could do, run. Just run.

(05-09-2017 10:18 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Congrats. This is a move the Indiana schools of the MVC are going to love as Valpo is going to be a big draw on the schedule.

That's the motivator here I think with this add. Name value school. Takes the Valley to a 50-50 public/private mix.

School is both in the Chicago metro and in the state of Indiana prime recruiting grounds.

(05-09-2017 10:23 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:18 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Congrats. This is a move the Indiana schools of the MVC are going to love as Valpo is going to be a big draw on the schedule.

That's the motivator here I think with this add. Name value school. Takes the Valley to a 50-50 public/private mix.

School is both in the Chicago metro and in the state of Indiana prime recruiting grounds.

Valley's lost turf in urban Nebraska and Kansas to trade for ground already covered in Illinois and Indiana. It makes travel easier for some. They can ask Horizon and MAC how "lucrative" the turf is for recruiting.

(05-09-2017 10:20 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA offices are getting some calls for the forseeable future.

I can believe the conference would do this. Sad this is the result. Completely validates Wichita. I wasn't a fan of them wanting to go to the AAC, felt selfish and wanted them to go to the A10, but, if this was the best the Valley could do, run. Just run.

(05-09-2017 10:23 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:18 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Congrats. This is a move the Indiana schools of the MVC are going to love as Valpo is going to be a big draw on the schedule.

That's the motivator here I think with this add. Name value school. Takes the Valley to a 50-50 public/private mix.

School is both in the Chicago metro and in the state of Indiana prime recruiting grounds.

Valley's lost turf in urban Nebraska and Kansas to trade for ground already covered in Illinois and Indiana. It makes travel easier for some. They can ask Horizon and MAC how "lucrative" the turf is for recruiting.

(05-09-2017 10:23 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:20 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA offices are getting some calls for the forseeable future.

I can believe the conference would do this. Sad this is the result. Completely validates Wichita. I wasn't a fan of them wanting to go to the AAC, felt selfish and wanted them to go to the A10, but, if this was the best the Valley could do, run. Just run.

The schools have to be WANTED by those conferences they call... realistically, who will find a home in an FBS league? Nobody in those conferences wants to split their already small piece of the pie even smaller.

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(05-09-2017 10:30 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:20 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA offices are getting some calls for the forseeable future.

I can believe the conference would do this. Sad this is the result. Completely validates Wichita. I wasn't a fan of them wanting to go to the AAC, felt selfish and wanted them to go to the A10, but, if this was the best the Valley could do, run. Just run.

What you're stating seems to be a popular opinion among MVC fans... but I don't really understand how the MVC could realistically "do better". SLU wasn't ever coming: they want actively want to get AWAY from the Midwest (which is what a lot of fans don't seem to understand and/or want to believe) and the *only* league that they want to move to is the Big East. Murray State is a decent basketball school, but was it really going to turn the MVC into a multi-bid conference (particularly when its location isn't very desirable)? Furthermore, if the MVC isn't going to be a multi-bid conference, then isn't adding any additional members beyond 10 going to provide diminishing returns? Finally, if the only other "realistic" conferences for other MVC schools to move to that are an increase in revenue/prestige would require forming an FBS football program from scratch and then hope that the MAC, Sun Belt, et. al provide them with an invite, are those really "realistic" choices at all? The MVC schools don't exactly have a plethora of better options - they're all pretty far from being viable Atlantic 10 candidates at this point (much less Big East candidates) and needing to add FBS football for other "move-up" options isn't exactly a simple or short process. The MVC is honestly the best option that anyone that is still in that league has at this point.

(05-09-2017 10:23 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:20 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA offices are getting some calls for the forseeable future.

I can believe the conference would do this. Sad this is the result. Completely validates Wichita. I wasn't a fan of them wanting to go to the AAC, felt selfish and wanted them to go to the A10, but, if this was the best the Valley could do, run. Just run.

The schools have to be WANTED by those conferences they call... realistically, who will find a home in an FBS league? Nobody in those conferences wants to split their already small piece of the pie even smaller.

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(05-09-2017 10:55 AM)SubGod22 Wrote:  UNI has had talks in the past with the MAC. Illinois State has talked about it in the past and MSU has had some level of talks in the past with CUSA and the Belt. They may not have a landing spot at this moment, but creating a dialogue and building some relationships within those conferences can't hurt future chances if things change. Word is, Wichita had been talking with the AAC for three years or so prior to being admitted. Things escalated in the past year with those talks but being proactive definitely didn't hurt our chances in moving.

MVC schools can do the same with other conferences. It won't hurt them at all and can only help. There are schools in the MVC that could benefit with a step up to FBS and a conference switch if a chance comes for them. The three mentioned are the best options but all have some "problems" to overcome as well.

(05-09-2017 10:58 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:23 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:20 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA offices are getting some calls for the forseeable future.

I can believe the conference would do this. Sad this is the result. Completely validates Wichita. I wasn't a fan of them wanting to go to the AAC, felt selfish and wanted them to go to the A10, but, if this was the best the Valley could do, run. Just run.

The schools have to be WANTED by those conferences they call... realistically, who will find a home in an FBS league? Nobody in those conferences wants to split their already small piece of the pie even smaller.

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MAC and CUSA won't take a call from any MVC schools. Why would they. The SBC would only look at MSU if either or both non-FB playing schools decide to leave (not happening).

No MVC school playing FCS FB is going to get an invite to an FBS conference anytime soon.