(02-28-2017 06:50 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  Great news People need to wake up and realize growth is needed for DeKalb to improve.

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

http://www.daily-chronicle.com/2017/02/27/dekalb-city-council-approves-cornerstone-rezoning/acs4jhy/

You can google for renderings of the building, I'm too lazy to attach ;(

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

(03-02-2017 05:16 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

Is there an architect's rendering that anyone dislikes? Considering there are empty buildings / storefronts all over DeKalb, the question is how much is the rent going to be for store owners? Because more empty spaces will not "dress up the downtown look."
Keep in mind that NIU's enrollment has been dropping, DeKalb's population has been decreasing, and there is a glut of rental properties, so does it help or just shift a problem to a new location?
You make reference to a "51-unit luxury apartment building" and the article mentions "51 fully furnished single-bedroom units".....exactly how many single-bedroom units do you consider to be luxury?
There were grandiose plans for the space between the new bank next to the Walgreens and Hickey's Marathon gas station and nothing has come of that....the old Subway remains an ice cream shop for the time being. This city council is big on approving and re-zoning but then not producing. There was a local radio report two days ago that the developer also wants help to pay for the demolition because of asbestos, this on top of $3 million tax increment. Can't imagine any of those potential store locations appealing to businesses who can only count on increased traffic from two Saturday home football games.
P.S. Dtownboys. You think Pappas cares that growth is needed for DeKalb to improve or is he simply concerned with his own bank account?

(03-02-2017 05:16 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

Is there an architect's rendering that anyone dislikes? Considering there are empty buildings / storefronts all over DeKalb, the question is how much is the rent going to be for store owners? Because more empty spaces will not "dress up the downtown look."
Keep in mind that NIU's enrollment has been dropping, DeKalb's population has been decreasing, and there is a glut of rental properties, so does it help or just shift a problem to a new location?
You make reference to a "51-unit luxury apartment building" and the article mentions "51 fully furnished single-bedroom units".....exactly how many single-bedroom units do you consider to be luxury?
There were grandiose plans for the space between the new bank next to the Walgreens and Hickey's Marathon gas station and nothing has come of that....the old Subway remains an ice cream shop for the time being. This city council is big on approving and re-zoning but then not producing. There was a local radio report two days ago that the developer also wants help to pay for the demolition because of asbestos, this on top of $3 million tax increment. Can't imagine any of those potential store locations appealing to businesses who can only count on increased traffic from two Saturday home football games.
P.S. Dtownboys. You think Pappas cares that growth is needed for DeKalb to improve or is he simply concerned with his own bank account?

(03-02-2017 06:09 PM)DeKalb57 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 05:16 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

Is there an architect's rendering that anyone dislikes? Considering there are empty buildings / storefronts all over DeKalb, the question is how much is the rent going to be for store owners? Because more empty spaces will not "dress up the downtown look."
Keep in mind that NIU's enrollment has been dropping, DeKalb's population has been decreasing, and there is a glut of rental properties, so does it help or just shift a problem to a new location?
You make reference to a "51-unit luxury apartment building" and the article mentions "51 fully furnished single-bedroom units".....exactly how many single-bedroom units do you consider to be luxury?
There were grandiose plans for the space between the new bank next to the Walgreens and Hickey's Marathon gas station and nothing has come of that....the old Subway remains an ice cream shop for the time being. This city council is big on approving and re-zoning but then not producing. There was a local radio report two days ago that the developer also wants help to pay for the demolition because of asbestos, this on top of $3 million tax increment. Can't imagine any of those potential store locations appealing to businesses who can only count on increased traffic from two Saturday home football games.
P.S. Dtownboys. You think Pappas cares that growth is needed for DeKalb to improve or is he simply concerned with his own bank account?

Is there a point to this post or, is this just a rambling rant?

(03-02-2017 06:59 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 06:09 PM)DeKalb57 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 05:16 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

Is there an architect's rendering that anyone dislikes? Considering there are empty buildings / storefronts all over DeKalb, the question is how much is the rent going to be for store owners? Because more empty spaces will not "dress up the downtown look."
Keep in mind that NIU's enrollment has been dropping, DeKalb's population has been decreasing, and there is a glut of rental properties, so does it help or just shift a problem to a new location?
You make reference to a "51-unit luxury apartment building" and the article mentions "51 fully furnished single-bedroom units".....exactly how many single-bedroom units do you consider to be luxury?
There were grandiose plans for the space between the new bank next to the Walgreens and Hickey's Marathon gas station and nothing has come of that....the old Subway remains an ice cream shop for the time being. This city council is big on approving and re-zoning but then not producing. There was a local radio report two days ago that the developer also wants help to pay for the demolition because of asbestos, this on top of $3 million tax increment. Can't imagine any of those potential store locations appealing to businesses who can only count on increased traffic from two Saturday home football games.
P.S. Dtownboys. You think Pappas cares that growth is needed for DeKalb to improve or is he simply concerned with his own bank account?

Is there a point to this post or, is this just a rambling rant?

I blocked uiniu57 a while ago and I now remember why...

(03-02-2017 08:23 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  The point is that every time a proposal is made, some on this board automatically think it's great without even looking into the situation or doing any investigation.
In response to Big Man, no one prefers a dilapidated building with no use, but you can't just knock a building down without additional costs and where is that money going to come from? You, NIUfilmmaker, Team duh. Since none of you live, work, or pay taxes here, it's real easy to approve every proposal that catches your eye and hand out tax breaks.
Drive down Sycamore road and check out all the strip malls with empty spaces or be here long enough to see businesses (Barnes & Noble, Pennys, Sears, Johnny's, JoAnn Fabrics, etc.) come and go because of excessive rent and little traffic. Just because you're convinced if you build it, they will come, doesn't mean it's true for DeKalb. Not in favor of a dilapidated building, a vast empty lot, or unused strip malls, all of which is what is left after these developers decide they can't make money off the town and NIU.
Ask Jim Mason or some of the other local landlords that support and have supported Huskie athletics for years what they think of developers from Rockford ala Pappas, Shodeen, etc.
The point, which you guys seem to conveniently ignore, is that actions affect both sides. DeKalb needs to do a better job of considering what its actions do to the university and the opposite is also true. This may sound great to you guys because you're assuming it will help athletics, but talk to some of the local businesses and find out how they feel some university and athletic decisions adversely affect them.
While I could care less that NIUfilmmaker blocked me because I didn't want to rename the university, there's an obvious irony in his choosing to block a contrary opinion similar to the way he mocks Penn State for ignoring those who spoke out about a Penn State cover-up.

(03-03-2017 03:43 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  The downtown building already has tenants for the businesses and will attract more growth to downtown.

(03-02-2017 05:16 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

Is there an architect's rendering that anyone dislikes? Considering there are empty buildings / storefronts all over DeKalb, the question is how much is the rent going to be for store owners? Because more empty spaces will not "dress up the downtown look."
Keep in mind that NIU's enrollment has been dropping, DeKalb's population has been decreasing, and there is a glut of rental properties, so does it help or just shift a problem to a new location?
You make reference to a "51-unit luxury apartment building" and the article mentions "51 fully furnished single-bedroom units".....exactly how many single-bedroom units do you consider to be luxury?
There were grandiose plans for the space between the new bank next to the Walgreens and Hickey's Marathon gas station and nothing has come of that....the old Subway remains an ice cream shop for the time being. This city council is big on approving and re-zoning but then not producing. There was a local radio report two days ago that the developer also wants help to pay for the demolition because of asbestos, this on top of $3 million tax increment. Can't imagine any of those potential store locations appealing to businesses who can only count on increased traffic from two Saturday home football games.
P.S. Dtownboys. You think Pappas cares that growth is needed for DeKalb to improve or is he simply concerned with his own bank account?

(03-07-2017 10:18 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 05:16 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 12:55 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  I know this isn't sports-related, but great news for downtown Dekalb and NIU. Dekalb seems to have given the OK for the new 51-unit luxury apartment building where Otto's used to be. Should really dress up the downtown look, hope Shodeen follows close behind with their projects.

Is there an architect's rendering that anyone dislikes? Considering there are empty buildings / storefronts all over DeKalb, the question is how much is the rent going to be for store owners? Because more empty spaces will not "dress up the downtown look."
Keep in mind that NIU's enrollment has been dropping, DeKalb's population has been decreasing, and there is a glut of rental properties, so does it help or just shift a problem to a new location?
You make reference to a "51-unit luxury apartment building" and the article mentions "51 fully furnished single-bedroom units".....exactly how many single-bedroom units do you consider to be luxury?
There were grandiose plans for the space between the new bank next to the Walgreens and Hickey's Marathon gas station and nothing has come of that....the old Subway remains an ice cream shop for the time being. This city council is big on approving and re-zoning but then not producing. There was a local radio report two days ago that the developer also wants help to pay for the demolition because of asbestos, this on top of $3 million tax increment. Can't imagine any of those potential store locations appealing to businesses who can only count on increased traffic from two Saturday home football games.
P.S. Dtownboys. You think Pappas cares that growth is needed for DeKalb to improve or is he simply concerned with his own bank account?

Because the developer refuses to be in accordance with the cities code for parking space per unit for the combined apartment and hotel...

The developer has not offered to come up with a solution...like removing 1 floor from the 4 story project which would bring the number of parking spots per unit closer to what is required by the city...even though that modification would still not meet the requirement.

(03-07-2017 01:22 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  Cool. And how long after its built will they start accepting section 8 vouchers or get subsidized by HUD to accept low income tenants?