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CFP money how important is it? - MJG - 02-20-2017 04:17 PM
One thing you constantly read on here is NMSU or U Mass won't make it without CFP MONEY.
Also no school will attempt to join Liberty and move up as an independent without CFP MONEY.
A lot of schools have made the move in the past when CFP money didn't exist and built up their programs.
Look at ULL and Ark St until a few years ago neither has played in a bowl game.
Their budgets were low and they were perennial losers. Now both have dramatically changed their situation.
They have won consistently and made huge facilities improvements. I see no reason to think other schools with the right leadership couldn't do the same.
Another thought is the CFP is only 12 years . The next contract could give independent programs equal or half shares or exclude the G5 entirely. Twelve years without a G5 participant is a good argument against paying them.
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RE: CFP money how important is it? - cleburneslim - 02-20-2017 06:37 PM
(02-20-2017 04:17 PM)MJG Wrote: One thing you constantly read on here is NMSU or U Mass won't make it without CFP MONEY.
Also no school will attempt to join Liberty and move up as an independent without CFP MONEY.
A lot of schools have made the move in the past when CFP money didn't exist and built up their programs.
Look at ULL and Ark St until a few years ago neither has played in a bowl game.
Their budgets were low and they were perennial losers. Now both have dramatically changed their situation.
They have won consistently and made huge facilities improvements. I see no reason to think other schools with the right leadership couldn't do the same.
Another thought is the CFP is only 12 years . The next contract could give independent programs equal or half shares or exclude the G5 entirely. Twelve years without a G5 participant is a good argument against paying them.
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absolutely the p5 could and may well take theyre money and leave. Autonomy could easily have just been a stop gap measure to allow time for a split from the ncaa.
RE: CFP money how important is it? - MJG - 02-20-2017 07:05 PM
I don't think they have to split just negotiate a new contract .
Guarantee the P5 conferences their share and make the rest performance based. The easiest way would be a P4 and make the league winners automatic playoff participants. Basically now you have six shares 5 P5 one for the G5. Keep the five and make the sixth performance based. So a G5 could theoretically make the playoffs and get a 1/6th share for their conference. The one sixth share could go to the winning conference if no G5 . Which there won't be it's just the illusion of access like now.
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RE: CFP money how important is it? - billybobby777 - 02-20-2017 07:39 PM
[quote='MJG' pid='14107212' dateline='1487625444']
One thing you constantly read on here is NMSU or U Mass won't make it without CFP MONEY.
Also no school will attempt to join Liberty and move up as an independent without CFP MONEY.
A lot of schools have made the move in the past when CFP money didn't exist and built up their programs.
Look at ULL and Ark St until a few years ago neither has played in a bowl game.
Their budgets were low and they were perennial losers. Now both have dramatically changed their situation.
They have won consistently and made huge facilities improvements. I see no reason to think other schools with the right leadership couldn't do the same.
Another thought is the CFP is only 12 years . The next contract could give independent programs equal or half shares or exclude the G5 entirely. Twelve years without a G5 participant is a good argument against paying them.
The next contract "could" give Independents....After 10 more years that could happen. Doubt it, but it could.
Cheers!
RE: CFP money how important is it? - hawghiggs - 02-20-2017 08:39 PM
What needs to happen is the development of late season tournaments for football. Imagine the Cotton Bowl hosting a Big 12 team, an SEC team, a AAC team, and the CUSA champion. This would make these bowl games relevant again.
RE: CFP money how important is it? - msm96wolf - 02-20-2017 09:46 PM
(02-20-2017 08:39 PM)hawghiggs Wrote: What needs to happen is the development of late season tournaments for football. Imagine the Cotton Bowl hosting a Big 12 team, an SEC team, a AAC team, and the CUSA champion. This would make these bowl games relevant again.
2015-16 the other two independents will share $618,241. I would not be shocked if that is what Liberty, UMASS and NMSU may get since it is a drop in the bucket to the CFP. Worst case, 500k for the Independents. Still have not seen anything confirming if CFP money is or is not coming to Liberty.