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Gottfried out at State - XLance - 02-16-2017 03:49 PM

He will coach out the rest of the season.....but he's gone!

http://www.gopack.com/news/2017/2/16/nc-state-mens-basketball-to-make-change-following-season.aspx


RE: Gottfried out at State - Wolfman - 02-16-2017 04:38 PM

Well, I am shocked!


RE: Gottfried out at State - Dasville - 02-16-2017 05:19 PM

Who'd a thunk it?


RE: Gottfried out at State - Dasville - 02-16-2017 05:24 PM

Bryles?


RE: Gottfried out at State - Kaplony - 02-16-2017 05:48 PM

So now we get the entertainment of the inevitable pie in the sky names being bandied about before State makes a totally underwhelming hire?


RE: Gottfried out at State - samandrea - 02-16-2017 05:53 PM

(02-16-2017 05:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So now we get the entertainment of the inevitable pie in the sky names being bandied about before State makes a totally underwhelming hire?
Jay Wright, Kay Yow loves him!

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RE: Gottfried out at State - Hood-rich - 02-16-2017 06:23 PM

(02-16-2017 05:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So now we get the entertainment of the inevitable pie in the sky names being bandied about before State makes a totally underwhelming hire?
pretty much go to

http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina-state/forums/2515-packpride-sports/15400029-who-are-your-top-5-choices

for some good laughs. I saw Jay Wright Calipari, Billy Donovan, Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart and Greg Marshall in there already. 03-lmfao Keep in mind most of those were on their supposed list last time.

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RE: Gottfried out at State - ecuacc4ever - 02-16-2017 07:19 PM

(02-16-2017 05:19 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Who'd a thunk it?

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RE: Gottfried out at State - Wolfman - 02-16-2017 08:17 PM

(02-16-2017 06:23 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 05:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So now we get the entertainment of the inevitable pie in the sky names being bandied about before State makes a totally underwhelming hire?
pretty much go to

http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina-state/forums/2515-packpride-sports/15400029-who-are-your-top-5-choices

for some good laughs. I saw Jay Wright Calipari, Billy Donovan, Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart and Greg Marshall in there already. 03-lmfao Keep in mind most of those were on their supposed list last time.

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State fans can be fanatical. However, those names were on the list for one reason - to cajole money out of boosters. A technique that worked very well by the way.


RE: Gottfried out at State - esayem - 02-16-2017 08:58 PM

Fred Hoiberg may be interested in the challenge the nation's best hoops conference presents.


RE: Gottfried out at State - Kaplony - 02-16-2017 09:48 PM

(02-16-2017 08:17 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 06:23 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 05:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So now we get the entertainment of the inevitable pie in the sky names being bandied about before State makes a totally underwhelming hire?
pretty much go to

http://www.scout.com/college/north-carolina-state/forums/2515-packpride-sports/15400029-who-are-your-top-5-choices

for some good laughs. I saw Jay Wright Calipari, Billy Donovan, Brad Stevens, Shaka Smart and Greg Marshall in there already. 03-lmfao Keep in mind most of those were on their supposed list last time.

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State fans can be fanatical. However, those names were on the list for one reason - to cajole money out of boosters. A technique that worked very well by the way.

So they'll float out the standard names.....Marshall, Miller, etc. for a while then settle for Steve Forbes from ETSU?


RE: Gottfried out at State - Hokie Mark - 02-16-2017 09:53 PM

Greg Marshall returns to the Carolinas?

He will cost $$$.

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RE: Gottfried out at State - Kaplony - 02-16-2017 10:18 PM

(02-16-2017 09:53 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Greg Marshall returns to the Carolinas?

He will cost $$$.

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At this point I believe the only two jobs Marshall will return to the Carolinas for are in Chapel Hill and Durham.

If you believe the rumors that were floating around when he was at Winthrop he would have crawled naked to Columbia from Rock Hill but someone with some power at South Carolina didn't want him and they hired Dave Odum, then Darrin Horn. When they fired Horn he was supposedly contacted but they couldn't beat what Wichita State was giving him so they hired Frank Martin and word is that door is now closed forever.


RE: Gottfried out at State - Hokie Mark - 02-17-2017 05:52 AM

(02-16-2017 10:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 09:53 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Greg Marshall returns to the Carolinas?

He will cost $$$.

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At this point I believe the only two jobs Marshall will return to the Carolinas for are in Chapel Hill and Durham.

If you believe the rumors that were floating around when he was at Winthrop he would have crawled naked to Columbia from Rock Hill but someone with some power at South Carolina didn't want him and they hired Dave Odum, then Darrin Horn. When they fired Horn he was supposedly contacted but they couldn't beat what Wichita State was giving him so they hired Frank Martin and word is that door is now closed forever.

If true (and I have no reason to doubt you) that would be one of the dumbest decisions in the history of Gamecock athletics.


Gottfried out at State - Lenvillecards - 02-17-2017 09:27 AM

(02-17-2017 05:52 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 10:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 09:53 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Greg Marshall returns to the Carolinas?

He will cost $$$.

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At this point I believe the only two jobs Marshall will return to the Carolinas for are in Chapel Hill and Durham.

If you believe the rumors that were floating around when he was at Winthrop he would have crawled naked to Columbia from Rock Hill but someone with some power at South Carolina didn't want him and they hired Dave Odum, then Darrin Horn. When they fired Horn he was supposedly contacted but they couldn't beat what Wichita State was giving him so they hired Frank Martin and word is that door is now closed forever.

If true (and I have no reason to doubt you) that would be one of the dumbest decisions in the history of Gamecock athletics.

Just add it to the Gamecock Hall of Shame, it's an extensive hall.


RE: Gottfried out at State - ken d - 02-17-2017 09:45 AM

So, how does this work? Does State get some sort of prize for being the first school to get the coaching carousel started, or did somebody beat them to it?


RE: Gottfried out at State - Hokie Mark - 02-17-2017 10:17 AM

(02-17-2017 09:45 AM)ken d Wrote:  So, how does this work? Does State get some sort of prize for being the first school to get the coaching carousel started, or did somebody beat them to it?
No. The only prize is for hiring the best coach.

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RE: Gottfried out at State - ecuacc4ever - 02-17-2017 11:23 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/this-should-temper-wild-expectations-for-nc-state-i-wouldnt-touch-that-job/

Quote:So congrats, NC State fans.
You got what you wanted.
But also know this: You made it clear 11 years ago that Herb Sendek making five straight NCAA Tournaments wasn’t good enough -- proof being how you nudged him to Arizona State. And now you’ve also made it clear that Mark Gottfried going to four NCAA Tournaments in a six-year span that included two Sweet 16s isn’t good enough either. And the only coach you had in between those two coaches is Sidney Lowe, who never finished better than ninth in a 12-school ACC.

Which leads to two questions:

1) What are you after?
2) Are you sure you can get it?

Quote:Either way, I’ll leave you with this ...
Mark Gottfried and Jim Larranaga got hired 17 days apart at NC State and Miami back in 2011. When this season is over, Gottfried will have made four NCAA Tournaments and two Sweet 16s. And he got fired two days after Valentine’s Day. Meantime, even if Larranaga makes the NCAA Tournament this season, his first six years at Miami will amount to three NCAA Tournament appearances and, more than likely, two Sweet 16s. And Larranaga has a contract through 2022 that nobody has even thought of buying out. He couldn’t be more comfortable in Coral Gables.

Two men.

Two ACC jobs.



RE: Gottfried out at State - ken d - 02-17-2017 12:20 PM

(02-17-2017 11:23 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/this-should-temper-wild-expectations-for-nc-state-i-wouldnt-touch-that-job/

Quote:So congrats, NC State fans.
You got what you wanted.
But also know this: You made it clear 11 years ago that Herb Sendek making five straight NCAA Tournaments wasn’t good enough -- proof being how you nudged him to Arizona State. And now you’ve also made it clear that Mark Gottfried going to four NCAA Tournaments in a six-year span that included two Sweet 16s isn’t good enough either. And the only coach you had in between those two coaches is Sidney Lowe, who never finished better than ninth in a 12-school ACC.

Which leads to two questions:

1) What are you after?
2) Are you sure you can get it?

Quote:Either way, I’ll leave you with this ...
Mark Gottfried and Jim Larranaga got hired 17 days apart at NC State and Miami back in 2011. When this season is over, Gottfried will have made four NCAA Tournaments and two Sweet 16s. And he got fired two days after Valentine’s Day. Meantime, even if Larranaga makes the NCAA Tournament this season, his first six years at Miami will amount to three NCAA Tournament appearances and, more than likely, two Sweet 16s. And Larranaga has a contract through 2022 that nobody has even thought of buying out. He couldn’t be more comfortable in Coral Gables.

Two men.

Two ACC jobs.

All those things are true, but sometimes being true isn't enough. Sometimes, you just know it's time to make a change. I think Debbie Yow knew, and in his heart of hearts so did Gottfried. For whatever reason, his players stopped playing hard for him. Whether that was his fault or not doesn't really matter when you are coaching in the best basketball conference in the NCAA.


RE: Gottfried out at State - Tech Savy - 02-17-2017 01:07 PM

Being in the shadow of Duke and UNC makes you do crazy things...07-coffee3