(01-22-2017 08:47 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  Are you asking what the minimum is? What the coaches should achieve in a certain timeframe (at least once every 2, 5, 10 years?)?

(01-23-2017 01:02 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  Our esteemed AD Camden Wood Selig has set the standard by which all will be judged. His expectations are for teams to finish in the top 25% of their conference. Quite a few are failing that standard today. So at best we can chant "We're top 25. Percent!"

(01-22-2017 11:56 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Vcu has made 6 NCAA tourney's in a row and quite a few of their fans were questioning will wade's job security.

Jones has made 1 nit in 4 years (were not going anywhere this year) and no NCAA tourneys and quite a large portion of our fan base wants to give him at least 2 more years.

Depending on how early we exit the conference tourney this year you could make a case he needs to go at the end of the year. But if we don't make the NCAA tourney in year 5 with all of odu's resources and advantages (we used to consider ourselves better than vcu!), he clearly has to go. 0/5 is long enough especially when we are playing such ugly ball.

As for football, id say a 10 win season is a automatic extension, especially for a program still in its infancy in fbs with no real history.

(01-23-2017 10:14 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  JJ is currently 81-47 at ODU (.633). He's taken us to a postseason tournament three out of four years and has an NIT Final Four under his belt. The overall talent and depth has increased every year and is trending up.

There is no reasonable argument to justify firing him.

(01-23-2017 10:21 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Expectations, I would assume are minimums. We all know the "goals."

So, 7-8 wins in football and a decent bowl. Love to happen every year, but obviously that may not be possible.

Basketball- top 3 in conference and 20+ wins. On the verge of the tourney in most years.

(01-23-2017 10:14 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  JJ is currently 81-47 at ODU (.633). He's taken us to a postseason tournament three out of four years and has an NIT Final Four under his belt. The overall talent and depth has increased every year and is trending up.

There is no reasonable argument to justify firing him.

(01-23-2017 11:28 AM)odufansam Wrote:  

(01-23-2017 10:14 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  JJ is currently 81-47 at ODU (.633). He's taken us to a postseason tournament three out of four years and has an NIT Final Four under his belt. The overall talent and depth has increased every year and is trending up.

There is no reasonable argument to justify firing him.

I just don't see the depth and talent improving.

(01-23-2017 10:14 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  JJ is currently 81-47 at ODU (.633). He's taken us to a postseason tournament three out of four years and has an NIT Final Four under his belt. The overall talent and depth has increased every year and is trending up.

There is no reasonable argument to justify firing him.

(01-23-2017 12:01 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(01-23-2017 11:28 AM)odufansam Wrote:  

(01-23-2017 10:14 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  JJ is currently 81-47 at ODU (.633). He's taken us to a postseason tournament three out of four years and has an NIT Final Four under his belt. The overall talent and depth has increased every year and is trending up.

There is no reasonable argument to justify firing him.

I just don't see the depth and talent improving.

Jones inherited a team with Bacote, Baker, Batten, Mosley, Palmore, Ross......the talent has certainly improved from what he took over to what we have now. That really is not disputable. If it is "enough" is the real question.

Personally, I think next years team has a chance to be really good...maybe as good as 2 years ago.

Caver and Talley are both sophs being asked to carry the team. Both are very talented players that are playing well, but have no business being 1 and 1a as sophomores. Both will be in contention for All-CUSA teams next year. Adding Brandan Stith gives us a viable defender/rebounding big man that can get garbage buckets. That is a pretty solid 3 players to build off of and will be juniors and seniors.

Fields comes back and will likely be able to play a few more mins per game that he has been able to this year. Porter will be a viable starter on the block. B.J. Stith- who really knows? He looks like a good player 1 game, disappears for another 2. Maybe he will grow as a player in the offseason.

Vassor/Haynes/Kah- should be back and provide depth as seniors.

Green/Hueitt/Godwin- Hueitt and Godwin are the highest ranked recruits we have had since Dahi. We don't know how they will perform as freshman, but both are more talented than most of the guys we have on the floor right now. The people that saw Green in high school seemed to be very impressed. Had offers from Providence, ECU, Cincy.

Losing Taylor will hurt and we need to find a big to replace his minutes. Does all the dirty work for us and plays excellent defense and steals a few possessions a game. As much as I like Baker as a person, we will not miss him. Unfortunately for him, he's been thrust into more of a offensive role than he should have been.

So again, I think next year should be a really good team. The big 3 are among the best in the conference. Godwin and Green give us more size and open court ability. Hueitt and Godwin both should provide more shooting ability from 3. We should gain a lot more than we lose and hope that the returning players improve as they should. With so many guys at the 1 through 3 spots, there is a chance that either Godwin or Hueitt redshirt though.