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All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - UCGrad1992 - 12-14-2016 11:23 PM
Behold! The Bowls draweth nigh! No, not the Bowls prophesied in Revelations pouring out judgment and wrath on the earth. College Football Bowl Season, that is. Are you guys going to watch a few, all or none of the games? Are you relieved that our Cats will stay home this year? Who do you think will take home the Championship? Five Bowls are scheduled to kick off the season on Saturday. Five of 'em. A few that I'll watch for sure...
Peach (Semifinal) - No. 1 Alabama (13-0) vs. No. 4 Washington (12-1)
Fiesta (Semifinal) - No. 2 Clemson (12-1) vs. No. 3 Ohio State (11-1)
Rose - Penn State (11-2) vs. USC (9-3)
Sugar - Oklahoma (10-2) vs. Auburn (8-4)
Cotton - Wisconsin (10-3) vs. Western Michigan (13-0)
Orange - Michigan (10-2) vs. Florida State (9-3)
Citrus - Louisville (9-3) vs. LSU (7-4)
Las Vegas - San Diego State (10-3) vs. Houston (9-3)
Take it or leave it...
Outback - Florida (8-4) vs. Iowa (8-4)
Music City - Tennessee (8-4) vs. Nebraska (9-3)
Sun - Stanford (9-3) vs. North Carolina (8-4)
Alamo - Colorado (10-3) vs. Oklahoma State (9-3)
Belk - Virginia Tech (9-4) vs. Arkansas (7-5)
Texas - Texas A&M (8-4) vs. Kansas State (8-4)
Russell Athletic - West Virginia (10-2) vs. Miami (Fla.) (8-4)
Camellia - Appalachian State (9-3) vs. Toledo (9-3)
Zzzzzzzzzzzz (Adult Beverage Required)...
Heart of Dallas - North Texas (5-7) vs. Army West Point (6-5)
St. Pete - Miami (Ohio) (6-6) vs. Mississippi State (5-7)
Bahamas - Old Dominion (9-3) vs. Eastern Michigan (7-5)
New Orleans - UL Lafayette (6-6) vs. Southern Miss (6-6)
Cure - UCF (6-6) vs. Arkansas State (7-5)
New Mexico - Texas-San Antonio (6-6) vs. New Mexico (8-4)
I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - Bruce Monnin - 12-15-2016 10:51 AM
(12-14-2016 11:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
I could be a coaching genius too if I had far and away the best recruiting class every year. If he could win it all at Cincinnati, then I would be convinced he is a Jedi Coach.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - Bearcat1010 - 12-15-2016 11:13 AM
(12-15-2016 10:51 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-14-2016 11:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
I could be a coaching genius too if I had far and away the best recruiting class every year. If he could win it all at Cincinnati, then I would be convinced he is a Jedi Coach.
You are aware that part of college coaching is the recruiting right? Next you will complain he shouldn't be considered a great coach because he has good assistant coaches helping him.
You must have been thrilled with TT's approach: no coaching, no recruiting, no good assistants.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - Bruce Monnin - 12-15-2016 11:31 AM
(12-15-2016 11:13 AM)Bearcat1010 Wrote:(12-15-2016 10:51 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-14-2016 11:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
I could be a coaching genius too if I had far and away the best recruiting class every year. If he could win it all at Cincinnati, then I would be convinced he is a Jedi Coach.
You are aware that part of college coaching is the recruiting right? Next you will complain he shouldn't be considered a great coach because he has good assistant coaches helping him.
You must have been thrilled with TT's approach: no coaching, no recruiting, no good assistants.
Don't be stupid. Of course I am aware recruiting is important. Recruiting is why Alabama wins. Just don't try to tell me Sabin is obviously a great game coach and that time to prepare will make all the difference. All the difference will be that he has recruited far better talent to work with.
The game coaching helps quite a bit too, but he would only have to be good (not great) at that to win with his recruited talent.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - bearcatmark - 12-15-2016 11:49 AM
I think Saban is a great game coach (particularly defensively) which is what has made him so devastating at Alabama where he already has a ton of built in advantages. I'm really interested to see what Washington does though, as I think Chris Peterson is pretty spectacular given time to really prep a game.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - Billy_Bearcat - 12-15-2016 12:02 PM
Urban is a far superior game coach to Saban. If you gave both a similar roster Urb's team would win by a couple scores.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - JackieTreehorn - 12-15-2016 12:13 PM
Would personally like to see Washington and Clemson in the finals. Sick of Alabama and tO$U, plus it gets our new coach back to work sooner.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - UCGrad1992 - 12-15-2016 12:55 PM
(12-15-2016 11:31 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-15-2016 11:13 AM)Bearcat1010 Wrote:(12-15-2016 10:51 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-14-2016 11:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
I could be a coaching genius too if I had far and away the best recruiting class every year. If he could win it all at Cincinnati, then I would be convinced he is a Jedi Coach.
You are aware that part of college coaching is the recruiting right? Next you will complain he shouldn't be considered a great coach because he has good assistant coaches helping him.
You must have been thrilled with TT's approach: no coaching, no recruiting, no good assistants.
Don't be stupid. Of course I am aware recruiting is important. Recruiting is why Alabama wins. Just don't try to tell me Sabin is obviously a great game coach and that time to prepare will make all the difference. All the difference will be that he has recruited far better talent to work with.
The game coaching helps quite a bit too, but he would only have to be good (not great) at that to win with his recruited talent.
I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with the jedi reference but I don't feel his recruiting advantages (resulting in part from the Alabama brand and part from Saban himself) should discount that he is one the best coaches in college football. I was keying more on his ability to keep his team to play within themselves (not distracted by the hype), play for the moment (not looking ahead) and not making self-inflicted mistakes in addition to what has already been mentioned. You can argue other programs recruit really well but you still have to coach 'em and execute the game plans (pre and in-game).
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - Bearcat1010 - 12-15-2016 01:03 PM
(12-15-2016 11:31 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-15-2016 11:13 AM)Bearcat1010 Wrote:(12-15-2016 10:51 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-14-2016 11:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
I could be a coaching genius too if I had far and away the best recruiting class every year. If he could win it all at Cincinnati, then I would be convinced he is a Jedi Coach.
You are aware that part of college coaching is the recruiting right? Next you will complain he shouldn't be considered a great coach because he has good assistant coaches helping him.
You must have been thrilled with TT's approach: no coaching, no recruiting, no good assistants.
Don't be stupid. Of course I am aware recruiting is important. Recruiting is why Alabama wins. Just don't try to tell me Sabin is obviously a great game coach and that time to prepare will make all the difference. All the difference will be that he has recruited far better talent to work with.
The game coaching helps quite a bit too, but he would only have to be good (not great) at that to win with his recruited talent.
What I said was the recruiting has to be considered part of the overall coach evaluation. Alabama wins because it combines great recruiting with great coaching.
I do not think if you took an average coach and gave him Alabama's team for the season the result would be the same.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - rath v2.0 - 12-15-2016 01:06 PM
(12-15-2016 10:51 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:(12-14-2016 11:23 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I just don't see how Alabama does not win the CFP. The Master Crimson-Jedi Coach will have them focused, locked and loaded. And that Dee...
I could be a coaching genius too if I had far and away the best recruiting class every year. If he could win it all at Cincinnati, then I would be convinced he is a Jedi Coach.
Their Achilles Heel is the offense had to replace a ton from last year and they have a bunch of true frosh in the 2 deep. If they lose it will be because they run into someone they have a real track meet with. I don't think this offense bears Clemson last year.
And without a doubt in my mind, Saban is the greatest coach in his generation. The guy is part Bob Huggins, part Bill Belichek and part Bill Parcels. Those dudes run through a wall for him or they beat feet.
He also still runs the secondary drills in camp, practice and pre-game. That is his baby. Fun to watch him out there still teaching.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - Banter - 12-15-2016 01:47 PM
Heart of Dallas - North Texas (5-7) vs. Army West Point (6-5)
This may be listed under the snoozefest games, but I would be very happy to see Army win a bowl game.
RE: All Things Bowl-Rama Thread - ctipton - 12-15-2016 09:46 PM
x2. Go Army.
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - robertfoshizzle - 12-15-2016 10:38 PM
(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote: Would personally like to see Washington and Clemson in the finals. Sick of Alabama and tO$U, plus it gets our new coach back to work sooner.
I have to agree, even though it will break my fiancee's heart (OSU fan/alum).
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - robertfoshizzle - 12-15-2016 10:39 PM
(12-15-2016 10:38 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote: Would personally like to see Washington and Clemson in the finals. Sick of Alabama and tO$U, plus it gets our new coach back to work sooner.
I have to agree, even though it will break my fiancee's heart (OSU fan/alum).
Actually, I take that back... I can't root against OSU in the playoff, unfortunately.
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - Bruce Monnin - 12-16-2016 09:25 AM
Maybe not outwardly :)
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - Nobones - 12-16-2016 10:00 AM
Dec. 27 Holiday San Diego, Calif. 7 p.m. (ESPN) Minnesota (8-4) vs. Washington State (8-4).
Looks like this one will be an issue. Minnesota players said they will boycott the game. Look like 10 players may have been suspended. Can't say that I care.
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - UCGrad1992 - 12-17-2016 09:40 AM
Here is the slate for today:
New Orleans, 9 p.m. (ESPN) - UL Lafayette (6-6) vs. Southern Miss (6-6)
Cure, 5:30 p.m.(CBSSN) - UCF (6-6) vs. Arkansas State (7-5)
Camellia, 5:30 p.m. (ESPN) - Appalachian State (9-3) vs. Toledo (9-3)
Las Vegas, 3:30 p.m. (ABC) - San Diego State (10-3) vs. Houston (9-3)
New Mexico, 2 p.m. (ESPN) - Texas-San Antonio (6-6) vs. New Mexico (8-4)
I'm most interested in the Vegas Bowl in terms of matchups followed by the Camellia Bowl. Will pull for the AAC reps of course. Enjoy...
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - doss2 - 12-17-2016 09:49 AM
(12-15-2016 10:39 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:(12-15-2016 10:38 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:(12-15-2016 12:13 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote: Would personally like to see Washington and Clemson in the finals. Sick of Alabama and tO$U, plus it gets our new coach back to work sooner.
I have to agree, even though it will break my fiancee's heart (OSU fan/alum).
Actually, I take that back... I can't root against OSU in the playoff, unfortunately.
So you xussy whipped. Join the club.
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - Dannyboy - 12-17-2016 10:56 AM
I kind of want Miami to win, just because I admire what Chuck Martin has done. It would be a YUGE upset if they pulled it off.
RE: All Things Bowl-O-Rama Thread - JackieTreehorn - 12-17-2016 11:01 AM
(12-17-2016 09:40 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Here is the slate for today:
New Orleans, 9 p.m. (ESPN) - UL Lafayette (6-6) vs. Southern Miss (6-6)
Cure, 5:30 p.m.(CBSSN) - UCF (6-6) vs. Arkansas State (7-5)
Camellia, 5:30 p.m. (ESPN) - Appalachian State (9-3) vs. Toledo (9-3)
Las Vegas, 3:30 p.m. (ABC) - San Diego State (10-3) vs. Houston (9-3)
New Mexico, 2 p.m. (ESPN) - Texas-San Antonio (6-6) vs. New Mexico (8-4)
I'm most interested in the Vegas Bowl in terms of matchups followed by the Camellia Bowl. Will pull for the AAC reps of course. Enjoy...
LV Bowl should be interesting to watch Pumphrey try to run against Ed Oliver.