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summers fired? - GaSoEagle - 11-29-2016 07:36 PM
WTOC in Savannah is reporting that there are rumors Summers has been fired. The smoke is getting thicker. if this is true some big Money boosters must have kicked in quite a sum of money
RE: summers fired? - hendoapp - 11-29-2016 07:50 PM
RE: summers fired? - sdcritter - 11-29-2016 07:51 PM
Well if they could support Monet, surely they could pay off a football coach.
(It was too easy)
RE: summers fired? - ericsaid - 11-29-2016 07:56 PM
(11-29-2016 07:36 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: WTOC in Savannah is reporting that there are rumors Summers has been fired. The smoke is getting thicker. if this is true some big Monet boosters must have kicked in quite a sum of money
Likely in an effort to poach staff from Navy, Army or Georgia Tech.
RE: summers fired? - rokamortis - 11-29-2016 07:58 PM
Looks like just twitter speculation
RE: summers fired? - Yosef Himself - 11-29-2016 08:05 PM
(11-29-2016 07:56 PM)ericsaid Wrote:(11-29-2016 07:36 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: WTOC in Savannah is reporting that there are rumors Summers has been fired. The smoke is getting thicker. if this is true some big Monet boosters must have kicked in quite a sum of money
Likely in an effort to poach staff from Navy, Army or Georgia Tech.
Jamey Chadwell's season just came to an end at Charleston Southern. Plausible.
RE: summers fired? - GaSoEagle - 11-29-2016 08:09 PM
We ll see. I still have a hard time believing we cut him loose after 1 year but it would be met with celebration thru Eagle nation
RE: summers fired? - ericsaid - 11-29-2016 08:15 PM
(11-29-2016 08:09 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: We ll see. I still have a hard time believing we cut him loose after 1 year but it would be met with celebration thru Eagle nation
He promised to keep the triple option. Based on what was seen with Shuman, coupled with what happened with Hatcher, it's clear that a move away from the TO (and variations) are in place. It would appear that the administration at Southern wouldn't want to go through a time warp back to the Hatcher days and simply chalk this one season up to a mistake in hiring.
A head coach is a CEO and based on Summer's staff and their inability to adapt, he wasn't ready for the job he was hired to do.
RE: summers fired? - TrueBlueDrew - 11-29-2016 10:09 PM
(11-29-2016 08:15 PM)ericsaid Wrote:(11-29-2016 08:09 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: We ll see. I still have a hard time believing we cut him loose after 1 year but it would be met with celebration thru Eagle nation
He promised to keep the triple option. Based on what was seen with Shuman, coupled with what happened with Hatcher, it's clear that a move away from the TO (and variations) are in place. It would appear that the administration at Southern wouldn't want to go through a time warp back to the Hatcher days and simply chalk this one season up to a mistake in hiring.
A head coach is a CEO and based on Summer's staff and their inability to adapt, he wasn't ready for the job he was hired to do.
For once I completely agree with you...
RE: summers fired? - EigenEagle - 11-29-2016 10:11 PM
Having seen anywhere where WTOC has said this...just looks like one person on Twitter who isn't even a journalist rumor-mongering.
RE: summers fired? - gsumark14 - 11-29-2016 11:55 PM
(11-29-2016 08:15 PM)ericsaid Wrote:(11-29-2016 08:09 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: We ll see. I still have a hard time believing we cut him loose after 1 year but it would be met with celebration thru Eagle nation
He promised to keep the triple option. Based on what was seen with Shuman, coupled with what happened with Hatcher, it's clear that a move away from the TO (and variations) are in place. It would appear that the administration at Southern wouldn't want to go through a time warp back to the Hatcher days and simply chalk this one season up to a mistake in hiring.
A head coach is a CEO and based on Summer's staff and their inability to adapt, he wasn't ready for the job he was hired to do.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
RE: summers fired? - TheMackAttack - 11-30-2016 01:19 AM
Firing Summers would be a terrible mistake. Even if he went 4-8 next year too you'd almost have to give him a third year because otherwise you aren't going to get quality candidates to apply for the job in the future for fear of getting fired before they can shape the program how they want. Satterfield has been arguably the most successful coach in the conference over the past three years and he went 4-8 at the FCS level in year one and started year two at 1-5.
RE: summers fired? - TheEagleWay - 11-30-2016 07:48 AM
(11-30-2016 01:19 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote: Firing Summers would be a terrible mistake. Even if he went 4-8 next year too you'd almost have to give him a third year because otherwise you aren't going to get quality candidates to apply for the job in the future for fear of getting fired before they can shape the program how they want. Satterfield has been arguably the most successful coach in the conference over the past three years and he went 4-8 at the FCS level in year one and started year two at 1-5.
**sigh**
The comparison between Summers and Satterfield about their first year needs to stop.
The things that are happening are not good... at all. I'm not even talking about the on field issues.
I can accept rough start by a new head coach, but when the coach is doing ALL the wrong things and looks in over his head... that is when I have a problem.
This was a bad hire by TK and it has blown up in his face. Time to hit the reset button.
RE: summers fired? - SENOREIDA - 11-30-2016 07:53 AM
You call Chadwell right now and gauge his interest. If he says no, hang up and keep Summers. If he says he is interested, offer him the job on the spot, hang up and pack Summers boxes for him and leave them sitting for him outside of his office. I believe that is how you handle this.
RE: summers fired? - Eagle's Cliff - 11-30-2016 07:56 AM
(11-30-2016 01:19 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote: Firing Summers would be a terrible mistake. Even if he went 4-8 next year too you'd almost have to give him a third year because otherwise you aren't going to get quality candidates to apply for the job in the future for fear of getting fired before they can shape the program how they want. Satterfield has been arguably the most successful coach in the conference over the past three years and he went 4-8 at the FCS level in year one and started year two at 1-5.
Our program already has a shape. Potential coaches can leave their mark on that shape, but GS is Option U. It's been our identity since 1985 minus 5 painful seasons in the last 10 years.
RE: summers fired? - EigenEagle - 11-30-2016 08:16 AM
(11-30-2016 07:48 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:(11-30-2016 01:19 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote: Firing Summers would be a terrible mistake. Even if he went 4-8 next year too you'd almost have to give him a third year because otherwise you aren't going to get quality candidates to apply for the job in the future for fear of getting fired before they can shape the program how they want. Satterfield has been arguably the most successful coach in the conference over the past three years and he went 4-8 at the FCS level in year one and started year two at 1-5.
**sigh**
The comparison between Summers and Satterfield about their first year needs to stop.
The things that are happening are not good... at all. I'm not even talking about the on field issues.
I can accept rough start by a new head coach, but when the coach is doing ALL the wrong things and looks in over his head... that is when I have a problem.
This was a bad hire by TK and it has blown up in his face. Time to hit the reset button.
There's other key differences, too.
Satterfield had a redshirt freshman QB, was basically rebuilding at WR, and didn't have an ideal situation at offensive line for sure. We have two accomplished senior QBs, a great trio of backs, and a talented offensive line including a preseason Remington watch list guy and a left tackle who was freshman all-American honorable mention last year.
Also, App State got better over the course of that year. We are clearly not getting better.
It isn't that hard to win at Georgia Southern. We're not one of those CUSA "marketz" teams. That's just the truth. If we were talking about 6 or 7 wins here many of us would be disappointed but we wouldn't want to fire the coach. Winning 4 games with this roster is just plain sickening and is a huge underachievement.
And that does not even begin to get into the apparent turmoil going on behind the scenes that The Eagle Way alludes to with some of our best defensive players inexplicably ending up in the dog house.
This cancer needs to be killed before it metastasizes.
RE: summers fired? - BurlingtonApp - 11-30-2016 08:28 AM
(11-30-2016 08:16 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:(11-30-2016 07:48 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:(11-30-2016 01:19 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote: Firing Summers would be a terrible mistake. Even if he went 4-8 next year too you'd almost have to give him a third year because otherwise you aren't going to get quality candidates to apply for the job in the future for fear of getting fired before they can shape the program how they want. Satterfield has been arguably the most successful coach in the conference over the past three years and he went 4-8 at the FCS level in year one and started year two at 1-5.
**sigh**
The comparison between Summers and Satterfield about their first year needs to stop.
The things that are happening are not good... at all. I'm not even talking about the on field issues.
I can accept rough start by a new head coach, but when the coach is doing ALL the wrong things and looks in over his head... that is when I have a problem.
This was a bad hire by TK and it has blown up in his face. Time to hit the reset button.
There's other key differences, too.
Satterfield had a redshirt freshman QB, was basically rebuilding at WR, and didn't have an ideal situation at offensive line for sure. We have two accomplished senior QBs, a great trio of backs, and a talented offensive line including a preseason Remington watch list guy and a left tackle who was freshman all-American honorable mention last year.
Also, App State got better over the course of that year. We are clearly not getting better.
It isn't that hard to win at Georgia Southern. We're not one of those CUSA "marketz" teams. That's just the truth. If we were talking about 6 or 7 wins here many of us would be disappointed but we wouldn't want to fire the coach. Winning 4 games with this roster is just plain sickening and is a huge underachievement.
And that does not even begin to get into the apparent turmoil going on behind the scenes that The Eagle Way alludes to with some of our best defensive players inexplicably ending up in the dog house.
This cancer needs to be killed before it metastasizes.
This part isn't really accurate. In Satt's first year, he returned maybe the best WR corps in FCS, including Sean Price, and three guys that are currently on practice squads in the NFL. Also returned an all conference QB (who was coming off an injury and wasn't the same), as Taylor was redshirted that year. Running back was the only unknown, but Cox was excellent from his first start.
RE: summers fired? - EigenEagle - 11-30-2016 08:32 AM
(11-30-2016 08:28 AM)BurlingtonApp Wrote: This part isn't really accurate. In Satt's first year, he returned maybe the best WR corps in FCS, including Sean Price, and three guys that are currently on practice squads in the NFL. Also returned an all conference QB (who was coming off an injury and wasn't the same), as Taylor was redshirted that year. Running back was the only unknown, but Cox was excellent from his first start.
I remember Tony Washington and Andrew Peacock quite unfondly. Price I believe was already kicked off the team when we played that year, but it was still a good group.
I was not counting 2013 because you can't convince me that was a complete throw-away year that would have no bearing on what happened with Satterfield's contract. Jeff Monken and our OC at the time also seemed to be screwing around with things.
RE: summers fired? - StanMolsonMan - 11-30-2016 09:34 AM
Can we get a link? Or this goes in the "people are saying" file.
RE: summers fired? - EigenEagle - 11-30-2016 09:41 AM
(11-30-2016 09:34 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote: Can we get a link? Or this goes in the "people are saying" file.
I have checked all of the area media outlets and have nothing. One of the Sports reporters for one of the local ABC affiliates have denied the rumors, which seems to have come from the Twitter account of one person who is not a reporter.