(09-15-2016 11:39 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Houston is better than us, they best us, etc. Thats life. That doesn't bother me. The better team won.

But after the back to back pick six's, Gunner is sent out there....to hand off three straight times and hit the bench again. I don't know what he did to get in the dog house, but it is flat out ridiculous to send him out there only to hand off. Trail could have done that. *I* could have done that. Why do that to him, other than to disrespect him?

For three games this year Kiel has gone out for the coin toss, worn a headset, encouraged his teammates, and been positive on the sideline. He has done everything he could to get back on the field. Then in a blowout he gets to handoff. When that happened I ran down to the front row and yelled some encouragement to him. He gave me a thumbs up and went back to encouraging his teammates.

It's wrong. If you're going to do this to him, just release him before the season and let him play for an FCS team or something. Anything but this. This isn't right.

Go Bearcats.

(09-16-2016 06:29 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  This is the guy who sat Kay in the 1st game under this regime due to a neck injury and then brought him in during mop up duty to run repeated QB dives and QB keepers. There is a method to the madness but it is apparently lost on mere mortals.

(09-16-2016 07:04 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Another scenario I'm baffled at.....

When Moore got hurt early in the game, Trail came in on 2nd and long and essentially handed it off a couple of times for basically no gain. If your backup QB either doesn't know the system, or is too green to be able to trust him to throw the ball, then how can you play him over a 5th year senior who has multiple years of experience and has already proven his capability.

(09-16-2016 07:04 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Another scenario I'm baffled at.....

When Moore got hurt early in the game, Trail came in on 2nd and long and essentially handed it off a couple of times for basically no gain. If your backup QB either doesn't know the system, or is too green to be able to trust him to throw the ball, then how can you play him over a 5th year senior who has multiple years of experience and has already proven his capability.

(09-16-2016 07:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(09-16-2016 07:04 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Another scenario I'm baffled at.....

When Moore got hurt early in the game, Trail came in on 2nd and long and essentially handed it off a couple of times for basically no gain. If your backup QB either doesn't know the system, or is too green to be able to trust him to throw the ball, then how can you play him over a 5th year senior who has multiple years of experience and has already proven his capability.

The idea that a player takes his first game snaps is a situation like last night is mind boggling. Not playing better versus Martin hurt us last night. Trail should have been able to play the entire 2nd half against Martin and getting some experience should have changed the rotation of QBs last night. All of that said:

1. Not taking the early FG put us in a hole in Q4.
2. Running out of the spread on the one line was a safety waiting to happen - 2 more points.
3. Then there was the extra point not taken.

All of the above to me was bad coaching that changed the end of game situation that forced Moore to make more risky plays. This one to me is on the coaching staff.

(09-16-2016 07:10 AM)Bcatbog Wrote:  

(09-16-2016 07:04 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Another scenario I'm baffled at.....

When Moore got hurt early in the game, Trail came in on 2nd and long and essentially handed it off a couple of times for basically no gain. If your backup QB either doesn't know the system, or is too green to be able to trust him to throw the ball, then how can you play him over a 5th year senior who has multiple years of experience and has already proven his capability.

The idea that a player takes his first game snaps is a situation like last night is mind boggling. Not playing better versus Martin hurt us last night. Trail should have been able to play the entire 2nd half against Martin and getting some experience should have changed the rotation of QBs last night. All of that said:

1. Not taking the early FG put us in a hole in Q4.
2. Running out of the spread on the one line was a safety waiting to happen - 2 more points.
3. Then there was the extra point not taken.

All of the above to me was bad coaching that changed the end of game situation that forced Moore to make more risky plays. This one to me is on the coaching staff.

(09-16-2016 07:28 AM)JPBearcat3 Wrote:  I think Gunner and the coaching staff have a mutual understanding as to what's happening. It's an unfortunate situation for all involved (coaches, players, fans, etc.).

(09-16-2016 07:28 AM)JPBearcat3 Wrote:  I think Gunner and the coaching staff have a mutual understanding as to what's happening. It's an unfortunate situation for all involved (coaches, players, fans, etc.).

(09-16-2016 08:03 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I've watched 3 games and Keil is the biggest cheerleader on the sideline. This whole "he has a crappy attitude thing" is for the birds. I still hold that sticking with Moore will cost us 2-3 games this season against a schedule that is tailor made for UC. Last night was #1.

(09-16-2016 08:04 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My hunk on the QB situation is they saw this as a rebuilding season from the start. New OC, new offense, three new starters on the OL and Kiel will be gone next year so they are playing the guys who will be here the next 2-4 seasons in hopes it pays off next year and beyond.