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Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-11-2016 07:28 AM
Below is the permanent link to the 2016-2017 Bubas Cup. My intention is to update this weekly, generally Sunday morning.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LzyVh8DBb8Y4YlM-NZbALxj-fW0aaqVHvXkKiFDHFfo/edit?usp=sharing
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-11-2016 07:30 AM
Bubas Cup Rules: The following is copied and pasted straight from the Sun Belt website.
SCORING: Points for the Bubas Cup are awarded based strictly on regular season finish for sports that have a regular season conference schedule. Points are awarded based on Sun Belt Championship finish if that sport does not have a regular season conference schedule
Points are awarded based on the number of schools sponsoring the sport. Institutions not sponsoring a sport do not receive points in that sport. Institutions tying for positions split the combined points of their positions.
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Added notes by McLeansvilleAppFan
Football and Volleyball, both, with 11 schools participating in each sport,, awards 11 points for 1st place, 10 points for second place, and so forth down to 1 point for 11th place. Nine of the 18 Sun Belt sponsored sports have 11 schools competing. Men’s Soccer is on the other extreme. Six schools compete in men’s soccer so first place earns 6 points, second place earns 5 points, and so forth.
Schools that tie split the points by adding up the points earned for the tied positions and dividing by the number of schools that tied. And it is not uncommon to have 3- or sometimes 4-way ties.
Men’s Soccer, Women’s Soccer, Volleyball, Women’s Basketball, Men’s Basketball, Softball and Baseball have both a regular season and a championship tournament. The tournament winner decides which school represents the Sun Belt in any NCAA tournament, but only regular season results earn Bubas Cup points.
Football has a regular season but no championship game (yet) so regular season determines the Bubas Cup points for football.
Men’s Cross Country, Women’s Cross Country, Men’s Indoor Track and Field, Women’s Indoor Track and Field, Women’s Golf, Men’s Golf, Men’s Tennis, Women’s Tennis, Men’s Outdoor Track and Field, and Women’s Outdoor Track and Field do not have a regular season that involves any sort of sanctioned round robin competition that would constitute a regular season. The conference championship results alone determine Bubas Cup points.
In the case of tennis the actual Bubas Cup points for teams are also determined by NCAA rankings for any part of the bracket that is not completed for all the seeds. 1st and 2nd place and the corresponding Bubas Cup points would be determined by the conference tournament. Any school placing 3rd place or lower earns Bubas Cup points by NCAA rankings. The end result is that tennis Bubas Cup points are earned by performance and schedule against non Sun Belt Schools, as W-L and SOS in the end determines the NCAA rankings. One can tell the order of the rankings based on the seeds in the tournament.
No Bubas Cup points are awarded to any school that sponsors any sport that is not sponsored by the Sun Belt. Field Hockey and Wrestling for Appalachian is one example. Georgia Southern has rifle and swimming and diving. Many schools have non Sun Belt sports as part of their athletic program.
My spreadsheet does contain a tab that separates Women’s points from Men’s points. That is 100% unofficial but can be interesting to examine. There is also a tab for sports by season. This is also unofficial but again interesting to see how different schools sometimes excel during a certain time of the year.
Finally Unity Points is also unofficial. It is my personal attempt to make every sport count the same. I take the points earned and divide by the points possible for that sport. The conference regular season championship would earn 1.0 unity points or slightly less is there was a tie. A school in the exact middle of the standings would earn 0.5 unity points, and so forth.
I am not aware of any conference that does not sponsor some sort of all-sport competition. It seems every conference does something a bit different. Some conferences make every sport equal weight but the jump in points varies based on the number of schools competing in that sport. (This is very close to my unity points.) Some conferences do the same except the next place only loses one cup point. In that system schools that offer lots of sports can be helped because even last place could be worth 6 or 7 points. Some conferences split the men’s and women’s competitions. (This seems rare but the Southern Conference does this due to The Citadel and VMI not sponsoring many women’s sports.)
There is also a NCAA wide Cup that gives points for NCAA tournament results. http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/nacda-directorscup-current-scoring.html
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-18-2016 10:50 AM
Updated after 17 September match-ups.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LzyVh8DBb8Y4YlM-NZbALxj-fW0aaqVHvXkKiFDHFfo/edit#gid=0
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - CatMom - 09-18-2016 11:55 AM
We have points
Also, after a previous thread about our XCountry sucking, they have come out full bore this year. Won one meet and placed 2nd in another. Got a Regional ranking for the first time in 11 years.
who knew?
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - Tealblood - 09-20-2016 01:33 PM
Very refreshing
The big south commish never would commit to how points were won or alllocated until after the fact and he would tweet it year to year
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-25-2016 11:06 AM
Updated. Volleyball is playing in two divisions. I am not 100% sure how to allocate points, but I just merged all the standings into one list and determined points in that manner.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - Usajags - 09-25-2016 01:10 PM
What is SBL and BSL???
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - CatMom - 09-25-2016 01:14 PM
(09-25-2016 11:06 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: Updated. Volleyball is playing in two divisions. I am not 100% sure how to allocate points, but I just merged all the standings into one list and determined points in that manner.You gave TXST 22 points for WSoccer. While I appreciate it and it moves us into 1st overall, I kind of feel that's a little off.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-25-2016 02:50 PM
(09-25-2016 01:10 PM)Usajags Wrote: What is SBL and BSL???Softball and Baseball. I think that is the same shorthand the Sun Belt uses on their website.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-25-2016 02:51 PM
(09-25-2016 01:14 PM)CatMom Wrote:(09-25-2016 11:06 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: Updated. Volleyball is playing in two divisions. I am not 100% sure how to allocate points, but I just merged all the standings into one list and determined points in that manner.You gave TXST 22 points for WSoccer. While I appreciate it and it moves us into 1st overall, I kind of feel that's a little off.
I noticed the numbers being awfully large but it would not be impossible. I'll fix it.
Should have been 11. 22 or 11-very close on the keypad. Thanks for pointing this out.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - chiefsfan - 09-26-2016 07:53 PM
With football such a mess, we're going to have to reply on Baseball or Men's basketball to have a better than expected year to make up the Bubbas Cup points loss.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 09-27-2016 06:09 PM
(09-26-2016 07:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: With football such a mess, we're going to have to reply on Baseball or Men's basketball to have a better than expected year to make up the Bubbas Cup points loss.
App is going to be in the same situation with Volleyball. The last two years App has exited the fall season with a lead. If that does not happen this year there is no hope for an App win in the Bubas.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 10-02-2016 09:11 AM
Annnnnnnnnd.....Updated for 1 October. There are some events later today. MSOC starts next Saturday.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - Tealblood - 10-03-2016 01:49 PM
Just so you can block it out on us we don't field Men Indoor track
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 10-03-2016 04:51 PM
(10-03-2016 01:49 PM)Tealblood Wrote: Just so you can block it out on us we don't field Men Indoor track
Thanks. If you see anything else that is incorrect do let me know.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 10-09-2016 12:08 PM
Now through football games and such from yesterday. A few WSOC matches today. I also found out how divisional Bubas Cup points are distributed, which is based on SB tournament finish. Only VB has divisions this year.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LzyVh8DBb8Y4YlM-NZbALxj-fW0aaqVHvXkKiFDHFfo/edit#gid=0
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 10-16-2016 12:43 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LzyVh8DBb8Y4YlM-NZbALxj-fW0aaqVHvXkKiFDHFfo/edit#gid=0
Coastal is holding there own, not that this is a surprise to me.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - CatMom - 10-16-2016 01:38 PM
(10-16-2016 12:43 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LzyVh8DBb8Y4YlM-NZbALxj-fW0aaqVHvXkKiFDHFfo/edit#gid=0
Coastal is holding there own, not that this is a surprise to me.
Wait, What? how do we only have 1 point for VB when we are in 1st place in the West (having beaten stAte)?
http://sunbeltsports.org/standings.aspx?standings=30&path=wvball
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - McLeansvilleAppFan - 10-16-2016 03:07 PM
(10-16-2016 01:38 PM)CatMom Wrote:(10-16-2016 12:43 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LzyVh8DBb8Y4YlM-NZbALxj-fW0aaqVHvXkKiFDHFfo/edit#gid=0
Coastal is holding there own, not that this is a surprise to me.
Wait, What? how do we only have 1 point for VB when we are in 1st place in the West (having beaten stAte)?
http://sunbeltsports.org/standings.aspx?standings=30&path=wvball
I was off a cell and seem to have given your points to USA.
RE: Bubas Cup 2016-2017 - Tealblood - 10-21-2016 02:36 PM
I guess first actual points are next week with x-country