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What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - msm96wolf - 07-24-2016 01:34 PM
If the B12 went football only with BYU and Boise. Take Cinci and Houston. AAC stays at 10. Rice goes MWC. No further movement. An thoughts.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - goofus - 07-24-2016 01:39 PM
ONLY adding BYU for football only would be the least impactful.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - HuskyU - 07-24-2016 01:48 PM
NC State to the Big South.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Stay Cool - 07-24-2016 01:51 PM
(07-24-2016 01:39 PM)goofus Wrote: ONLY adding BYU for football only would be the least impactful./thread
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RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - TexanMark - 07-24-2016 01:57 PM
(07-24-2016 01:48 PM)HuskyU Wrote: NC State to the Big South.
But we would have to find an equally annoying fanbase to replace them...any ideas?
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Sellular1 - 07-24-2016 02:00 PM
No expansion
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - HuskyU - 07-24-2016 02:26 PM
(07-24-2016 01:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:(07-24-2016 01:48 PM)HuskyU Wrote: NC State to the Big South.
But we would have to find an equally annoying fanbase to replace them...any ideas?
Said replacement may be annoying...but at least they contribute in terms of athletic accomplishments...
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - MplsBison - 07-24-2016 02:48 PM
If the B12 adds BYU and Houston, then you might even wonder if AAC would just stay at 11 in football or try add Army in football only. There's really no point in any G5 going beyond 10 with the CFP payment structure.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Kittonhead - 07-24-2016 04:32 PM
I think a BYU/Houston combo to the B12 doesn't upset the balance of power.
1. AAC
2. MWC
3. MAC
4. SBC
5. CUSA
That is what most people are asking, will the AAC still be the best G5 conference after this is all said and done. The answer is probably.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - adcorbett - 07-24-2016 04:38 PM
(07-24-2016 02:48 PM)MplsBison Wrote: If the B12 adds BYU and Houston, then you might even wonder if AAC would just stay at 11 in football or try add Army in football only. There's really no point in any G5 going beyond 10 with the CFP payment structure.
If they want to keep a CCG they'd need to go back to 12. Divisions don't work under the rules with 11 teams (granted the Mac violates them, but it's mathematically impossible to play each team in your division, and have everyone play the same number of conference games with divisions of 5 and 6 teams), and they won't play 10 conference games. Really they can't even do ten teams, because I don't think Navy would go for nine games, which a round robin would be needed (or divisions) at ten. Granted divisions can work with ten teams.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - MplsBison - 07-24-2016 04:48 PM
Good point.
Technically, you could just have one division play one less conf game than the other division. Might not seem fair, but what matters is the record against division.
Would they do that? Maybe not.
Adding Army would be an "easy" backfill, and not have any effect on the rest of G5.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Soobahk40050 - 07-24-2016 04:53 PM
BYU
Houston
Cincy
One of UConn/Memphis/UCF/etc
Rationale:
bYU does not affect anyone (effect?)
Houston replaced by rice and 10 left in AAC
Conference USA operates at 13 or takes on NMSU/UMass
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Wilkie01 - 07-24-2016 05:10 PM
(07-24-2016 01:57 PM)TexanMark Wrote:(07-24-2016 01:48 PM)HuskyU Wrote: NC State to the Big South.
But we would have to find an equally annoying fanbase to replace them...any ideas?
West Virginia
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Stay Cool - 07-24-2016 05:12 PM
(07-24-2016 04:53 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: BYU
Houston
Cincy
One of UConn/Memphis/UCF/etc
Rationale:
bYU does not affect anyone (effect?)
Houston replaced by rice and 10 left in AAC
Conference USA operates at 13 or takes on NMSU/UMass
Where do people come up with this stuff?!
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RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - Kittonhead - 07-24-2016 05:46 PM
(07-24-2016 05:12 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:(07-24-2016 04:53 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: BYU
Houston
Cincy
One of UConn/Memphis/UCF/etc
Rationale:
bYU does not affect anyone (effect?)
Houston replaced by rice and 10 left in AAC
Conference USA operates at 13 or takes on NMSU/UMass
Where do people come up with this stuff?!
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Because NMSU desperately needs a conference and is one of more attractive additions from the CUSA perspective.
If you can't pull another school from a G5 conference or MVC like CUSA probably can't with its tiny deal NMSU is the next place too look.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - OrangeCrush22 - 07-24-2016 08:07 PM
No matter what they do they'll have to raid a conference which will likely cause back filling all the way down to FCS. Two Independents would be the only way to avert it and with that it causes scheduling chaos.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - chiefsfan - 07-24-2016 10:28 PM
(07-24-2016 05:12 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:(07-24-2016 04:53 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: BYU
Houston
Cincy
One of UConn/Memphis/UCF/etc
Rationale:
bYU does not affect anyone (effect?)
Houston replaced by rice and 10 left in AAC
Conference USA operates at 13 or takes on NMSU/UMass
Where do people come up with this stuff?!
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If the AAC gets raided heavily, I don't see any way NMSU doesn't find a home. Whether that means the CUSA loses a bunch to the AAC and tries to pick up NMSU as a way to keep UTEP out of the MWC, or if CUSA took an SBC and the SBC Backfilled with NMSU.
They are a free agent in conference realignment, a rare FBS free agent. That's going to instantly put them above some FCS options as realignment moved further down the line.
That being said, if the AAC gets lightly raided and CUSA just loses 2, NMSU is probably stuck.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - chiefsfan - 07-24-2016 10:37 PM
(07-24-2016 08:07 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote: No matter what they do they'll have to raid a conference which will likely cause back filling all the way down to FCS. Two Independents would be the only way to avert it and with that it causes scheduling chaos.
I'm not sure about that far. A lot of what happens at G5 level will depend on the situation with CUSA. They've been heavily raided recently, and lost a ton of TV money in the process. You're already seeing some lamenting about whether or not it's best to just say screw it and work with the SBC to become more geographically based. There's just no guarantee that this one trickles down like the others. Especially if CUSA only loses two teams.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - goodknightfl - 07-25-2016 07:12 AM
The least impact full would be taking 2 bottom wrung CUSA or BELT schools, that is not going to happen.
RE: What would be the least impactful b12 Expansion to G5 - MplsBison - 07-25-2016 07:28 AM
The least impactful, clearly, is for B12 to take only 1 from AAC + BYU, then for the AAC to backfill with Army or UMass.
Can't get less impactful than that.