Quote:by Dennis Dodd

Quote:Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione told CBS Sports

Quote:"I don't know where we're at," Bowlsby told CBS Sports on Wednesday.

Quote:Castiglione is one of two high-placed sources to tell CBS Sports Big 12 expansion is over.

(07-06-2016 03:50 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  "The other source, who preferred to remain anonymous, said expansion was dead regarding "those teams."

That's a reference to usual group of schools attached to the Big 12 that includes BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, Colorado State, UConn, Houston and Memphis.


That is probably an interesting quote there. I'm guessing now with the CCG for the Big 12 at 10 members, they can wait close enough to any GOR or Exit fees that maybe an ACC school or two would be interested in moving the Big 12.
Question is which candidates (the newbies like Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse)?

(07-06-2016 03:52 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  

(07-06-2016 03:50 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  "The other source, who preferred to remain anonymous, said expansion was dead regarding "those teams."

That's a reference to usual group of schools attached to the Big 12 that includes BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, Colorado State, UConn, Houston and Memphis.


That is probably an interesting quote there. I'm guessing now with the CCG for the Big 12 at 10 members, they can wait close enough to any GOR or Exit fees that maybe an ACC school or two would be interested in moving the Big 12.
Question is which candidates (the newbies like Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse)?

I would be pitching for Clemson and FSU if I were them

(07-06-2016 03:50 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  "The other source, who preferred to remain anonymous, said expansion was dead regarding "those teams."

That's a reference to usual group of schools attached to the Big 12 that includes BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, Colorado State, UConn, Houston and Memphis.


That is probably an interesting quote there. I'm guessing now with the CCG for the Big 12 at 10 members, they can wait close enough to any GOR or Exit fees that maybe an ACC school or two would be interested in moving the Big 12.
Question is which candidates (the newbies like Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse)?

(07-06-2016 02:45 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Interesting, hadn't seen this posted yet.

Story is here

(07-06-2016 04:53 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  just another carefully worded statement "there aren't plans to talk about expansion".

maybe they have already decided who they are targeting and will talk about getting those programs onboard.

notice no one said they are not going to expand. I think it will always be discussed as long as there is opportunity to make money

(07-07-2016 07:18 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Nothing will happen in the Big 12 until the GOR expires and both Texas and Oklahoma head for the exits.

(07-07-2016 08:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  These circular stories seem oddly familiar to those of us that followed The Big East. The Big East's refusal to add available talent like Memphis and UCF to increase its football membership led to conference members looking to other conferences. The Big 12 is presently walking down that same crooked path.

From the NY Post: Maryland to The Big East instead of expanding with Memphis or UCF?

http://nypost.com/2009/08/05/big-east-may-spark-area-bowl/

"Two sources said the eight-team Big East would consider adding a ninth member by exploring whether there was interest on behalf of Maryland to jump from the ACC, and for Boston College to rejoin the league.

Both seem a little far-fetched on the surface, but Maryland always has played Big East schools, and the balance of power in the ACC is in the south. And Boston College is learning that life in the ACC, where it has no natural rivals, isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

The days of considering a Memphis or a Central Florida or an association with Army and Navy are over. The Big East, which went 4-2 in bowl games last season and has won three of its last four BCS games, is thinking of itself as operating from a position of strength."

Also from The NY Post: The Big East could add Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri

http://nypost.com/2011/09/05/big-east-could-add-kansas-kansas-state-missouri/

According to multiple sources, the most likely scenario — should Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech leave the Big 12 for the Pac-12 — would bring Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri to the Big East.

(07-07-2016 08:13 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Yep. In a few years the leftovers of the Big 12 will either simply join the AAC or will invite select teams from the AAC/MWC to reform their conference.

(07-07-2016 08:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  These circular stories seem oddly familiar to those of us that followed The Big East. The Big East's refusal to add available talent like Memphis and UCF to increase its football membership led to conference members looking to other conferences. The Big 12 is presently walking down that same crooked path.

From the NY Post: Maryland to The Big East instead of expanding with Memphis or UCF?

http://nypost.com/2009/08/05/big-east-may-spark-area-bowl/

"Two sources said the eight-team Big East would consider adding a ninth member by exploring whether there was interest on behalf of Maryland to jump from the ACC, and for Boston College to rejoin the league.

Both seem a little far-fetched on the surface, but Maryland always has played Big East schools, and the balance of power in the ACC is in the south. And Boston College is learning that life in the ACC, where it has no natural rivals, isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

The days of considering a Memphis or a Central Florida or an association with Army and Navy are over. The Big East, which went 4-2 in bowl games last season and has won three of its last four BCS games, is thinking of itself as operating from a position of strength."

Also from The NY Post: The Big East could add Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri

http://nypost.com/2011/09/05/big-east-could-add-kansas-kansas-state-missouri/

According to multiple sources, the most likely scenario — should Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech leave the Big 12 for the Pac-12 — would bring Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri to the Big East.

(07-07-2016 08:46 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 08:09 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  These circular stories seem oddly familiar to those of us that followed The Big East. The Big East's refusal to add available talent like Memphis and UCF to increase its football membership led to conference members looking to other conferences. The Big 12 is presently walking down that same crooked path.

From the NY Post: Maryland to The Big East instead of expanding with Memphis or UCF?

http://nypost.com/2009/08/05/big-east-may-spark-area-bowl/

"Two sources said the eight-team Big East would consider adding a ninth member by exploring whether there was interest on behalf of Maryland to jump from the ACC, and for Boston College to rejoin the league.

Both seem a little far-fetched on the surface, but Maryland always has played Big East schools, and the balance of power in the ACC is in the south. And Boston College is learning that life in the ACC, where it has no natural rivals, isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

The days of considering a Memphis or a Central Florida or an association with Army and Navy are over. The Big East, which went 4-2 in bowl games last season and has won three of its last four BCS games, is thinking of itself as operating from a position of strength."

Also from The NY Post: The Big East could add Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri

http://nypost.com/2011/09/05/big-east-could-add-kansas-kansas-state-missouri/

According to multiple sources, the most likely scenario — should Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech leave the Big 12 for the Pac-12 — would bring Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri to the Big East.

this is simply a ridiculous post void of all facts and reality

1. the Big East constantly added new teams and yet teams constantly left the Big East for other conferences often including some of the newest teams added the last go around

2. the big East did add Memphis and UCF and Louisville still left ASAP as did every other member with a BETTER OFFER

you are somehow living in a pretend world where the AAc is not the same conference as the big East with a different name because that is exactly what the AAC is it is the big East with a different name and all new members except for Cincy, UConm and USF.

3. you are living in some dream world where conferences get paid by media partners based on the name of the conference not the actual members in the conference

the "Big East" as pointed out has Memphis and they have UCF and they have USF and dem coogs doh and UConn and all the other "available" teams

and they get crap money that is only slightly better than the old CUSA got......and now the old CUSA with all the old Sunbelt teams pretty much gets the same crap money as the Sunbelt

4. you live in some never never land where somehow the Big East continuing to elevate CUSA teams and other teams with not a lot of fans and not a lot of history of winning was just going to keep earning money like the ACC or the Big 12 or the PAC 12

this is the same never never land where adding AAC schools to the Big 12 somehow makes the Big 12 some huge new pile of money for EXISTING members or somehow gets the Big 12 close to making what the Big 10 is said to soon make

or the even bigger pretend world where if Texas and OU leave the Big 12 9 years from now when the GOR and the current TV contracts are up just because the remaining conference will have 8 or 9 members and it will be called the Big 12 (maybe) that group of teams and their latest AAC additions or CUSA or MWC additions will all get some huge new TV contract

instead of getting what the renamed Big East now called the AAC got which was a TV contract that barely paid over what the old CUSA paid

how is it possible to simply keep ignoring reality and to keep ignoring the facts of history and the current financial realities of the Big East and the Big East now called the AAC

who on earth is pretending that if the Big East had somehow added Memphis and UCF 4 years earlier that when it came time for TCU, WVU, Louisville and Rutgers to leave they would not have left

5. The Big East was not going to get more money under the EXISTING TV contracts if they had added Memphis and UCF that was simply not going to happen those were two programs that had been ranked a combined ONE TIME in football history and it was Memphis in 1963 at the time you are saying the Big East would have "been all on dat"

why in the hell are media partners suddenly going to pay more money for THAT especially when the TV contract is coming due, the basketball schools wanted out and the Big East was shedding members like a dog with mange

the only thing adding those teams would have done is to make the media payouts even less competitive with the other conferences and given teams with an option an even bigger reason to GTFO

no one that lives on planet earth and that still breaths air believes otherwise especially when one can look at all the teams that still left as new members were added (like Louisville which makes your post about what the Big 12 should do relative to the Big East all the more laughable) and the new TV money SUCKS relative to any of the conferences that former Big East members had options to join

are you really pretending that Maryland and Rutgers would have said no to the Big 10 of that the Big East would have come close to Big 10 like money if they had jumped on Memphis and UCF 5 years ago

or that TCU, WVU and Louisville would not have left ASAP when offered