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Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - DoubletapWolf - 06-29-2016 07:31 PM

WOLVES UP !!

Phil Steele sez . . . "This is a team (Red Wolves) that has a shot at the Group of 5 Bid" 05-stirthepot


Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - WolfBird - 06-29-2016 07:38 PM

Phil you are a wise man.


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RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - RamblinRedWolf44 - 06-29-2016 10:17 PM

alright you've convinced me-I'll buy his magazine


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - USAJag2011 - 06-29-2016 11:14 PM

I heard he had Seminole as a special guest contributer.


Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - WolfBird - 06-29-2016 11:25 PM

(06-29-2016 11:14 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  I heard he had Seminole as a special guest contributer.


Seminole actually is Phil


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RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - Florida RedWolf - 06-30-2016 04:52 AM

(06-29-2016 11:25 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(06-29-2016 11:14 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  I heard he had Seminole as a special guest contributer.


Seminole actually is Phil


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Regardless of his great pick here, I do think Phil has the best preseason reviews of any out there. Just seems to do a better job of researching the teams. He has the only magazine I buy.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - AppinVA - 06-30-2016 07:29 AM

Phil Steele is an idiot...because he didn't say that about my team. 03-phew03-lmfao04-cheers


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - USAJag2011 - 06-30-2016 07:37 AM

(06-29-2016 11:25 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(06-29-2016 11:14 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  I heard he had Seminole as a special guest contributer.


Seminole actually is Phil


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Epic Mind Blown


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - Saint3333 - 06-30-2016 07:55 AM

Looks around for App and GS fans to piss all over this thread... doesn't see any... it's called respect.


Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - WolfBird - 06-30-2016 08:23 AM

(06-30-2016 07:55 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Looks around for App and GS fans to piss all over this thread... doesn't see any... it's called respect.


You sir, are a fine human being.

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RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - EigenEagle - 06-30-2016 08:46 AM

I texted GSU Eagles a link to this thread but he hasn't responded yet.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - Pounce FTW - 06-30-2016 09:20 AM

(06-30-2016 04:52 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  Regardless of his great pick here, I do think Phil has the best preseason reviews of any out there. Just seems to do a better job of researching the teams. He has the only magazine I buy.

My dad and I are the same way; once we picked up his, there was no reason to get the others. (Although my dad breaks down and buys the others if he sees them before Phil's because he needs the fix.) I could see how some people might prefer the more streamlined look of some of the others vs. the I-hack-away-in-my-basement-yearround-on-this look of Phil's, but I kind of like the low-fi feel.

I do get a little tired of how much the magazine emphasizes how great it is, but it's packed with so much stuff that it's hard to argue.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - AtlantaJag - 06-30-2016 09:48 AM

(06-30-2016 09:20 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  
(06-30-2016 04:52 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  Regardless of his great pick here, I do think Phil has the best preseason reviews of any out there. Just seems to do a better job of researching the teams. He has the only magazine I buy.

My dad and I are the same way; once we picked up his, there was no reason to get the others. (Although my dad breaks down and buys the others if he sees them before Phil's because he needs the fix.) I could see how some people might prefer the more streamlined look of some of the others vs. the I-hack-away-in-my-basement-yearround-on-this look of Phil's, but I kind of like the low-fi feel.

I do get a little tired of how much the magazine emphasizes how great it is, but it's packed with so much stuff that it's hard to argue.

Joey Jones said recently that Phil calls him personally and they speak an hour or more about the team. He never hears from any of the others. When it comes to most G5 previews, those others are just putting together what any of us with internet access could do. Steele and his staff actually research every single FBS school.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - Crump1 - 06-30-2016 09:57 AM

I guess I have to buy it now.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - chiefsfan - 06-30-2016 10:04 AM

(06-30-2016 09:48 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(06-30-2016 09:20 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  
(06-30-2016 04:52 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  Regardless of his great pick here, I do think Phil has the best preseason reviews of any out there. Just seems to do a better job of researching the teams. He has the only magazine I buy.

My dad and I are the same way; once we picked up his, there was no reason to get the others. (Although my dad breaks down and buys the others if he sees them before Phil's because he needs the fix.) I could see how some people might prefer the more streamlined look of some of the others vs. the I-hack-away-in-my-basement-yearround-on-this look of Phil's, but I kind of like the low-fi feel.

I do get a little tired of how much the magazine emphasizes how great it is, but it's packed with so much stuff that it's hard to argue.

Joey Jones said recently that Phil calls him personally and they speak an hour or more about the team. He never hears from any of the others. When it comes to most G5 previews, those others are just putting together what any of us with internet access could do. Steele and his staff actually research every single FBS school.

He does that for every coach before he writes the previews, tries to spend an hour or half hour on the phone with the coach getting the ins and outs before he does his own research.

That's compared to Scout who didn't even know who our QB was...yeesh.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - AppManDG - 06-30-2016 10:53 AM

Record against non-conference G5 teams: Bowling Green 1-0, Central Florida 10-1 ,Connecticut 1-0, FIU 2-0, Marshall 2-4, Massachusetts 1-1, Navy 0-2, Nevada 2-0, South Florida 2-0, Western Kentucky 2-1, Western Michigan 1-0, East Carolina 0-3
overall record: 24-12 04-rock

EigenEagle that's a wee bit misleading.

FIFY
Record against non-conference G5 teams as 1-A / FBS programs:
Bowling Green 1-0, East Carolina 0-3, Navy 0-2, Western Michigan 1-0
Overall record: 2-5 04-rock

Record against non-conference G5 team when they were 1-AA programs:
Central Florida 10-1, Connecticut 1-0, FIU 2-0, Marshall 2-4, Massachusetts 1-1, Nevada 2-0, South Florida 2-0, Western Kentucky 2-1
Overall record: 22-7 04-rock


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - MJG - 06-30-2016 05:30 PM

First three games are huge Toledo and USU are bowl teams and top four in their conferences.
Auburn is beatable and a must win to get a shot at the Access Bowl.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - EigenEagle - 06-30-2016 06:46 PM

I picked up Steele's magazine today

Predicted Order of Finish (national rank)
1. Arkansas State (60)
1. Appalachian State (66)
3. Georgia Southern (72)
4. ULL (92)
5. Troy (101)
6. Idaho (116)
6. South Alabama (118)
6. Georgia State (119)
9. New Mexico State (124)
10. ULM (127)
11. Texas State (128) (WTF?)

Position Rankings

QB
1. App State
2. Arkansas State
2. Georgia Southern
2. Troy
2. Idaho
6. NMSU
6. Texas State
8. ULM
9. ULL
9. South Alabama


RB
1. Georgia Southern
1. App State
1. NMSU
4. ULL
5. South Alabama
6. Arkansas State
7. Troy
8. ULM
9. Georgia State
9.Idaho
11. Texas State

WR
1. Georgia State
2. Idaho
3. South Alabama
4. NMSU
5. Arkansas State
6. ULM
7. ULL
8. Troy
9. App State
10.Texas State
11. Georgia Southern

OL
1. Arkansas State
2. Georgia Southern
2. App State
4. Idaho
5. Texas State
6. ULL
7. Troy
8. NMSU
9. South Alabama
10. ULM
10. Georgia State

DL
1. Arkansas State
2. Georgia Southern
3. Troy
3. App State
5. ULL
6. Georgia State
7. NMSU
8. ULM
9. Texas State
10. Idaho
10. South Alabama

LB
1. App State
2. Georgia State
3. Arkansas State
3. Georgia Southern
5. ULL
5. Troy
7. South Alabama
7. NMSU
9. ULM
10. Idaho
10. Texas State

DB
1. Arkansas State
1. Appalachian State
3. ULL
3. South Alabama
3. Georgia State
6. Troy
7. Idaho
7. ULM
9. Georgia Southern
10. NMSU
10. Texas State

Most Improved Teams (Nationally)
3. UL Lafayette
7. Troy

Some Quotes

"[App St] is arguably the most talented team in the Sun Belt"

"[Ark State] could be a surprise contender for the Group of 5 NY Day bowl bid"

"I can tell you this, UL has made my coveted Most Improved list on page 38 and that means a return to their winning ways and a bowl game!"

"You might want to check page 38 and see if [Troy] has made my Most Improved List"

(regarding Texas State) "it will be an accomplishment just to top last year's 3 win total"


My comments

Interesting that he rated Ark. State #2 at the QB position but his top 4 QBs are Lamb, Upshaw, Silvers, and Linehan.

I don't believe that that Texas State is as talent-decrepit as he makes them out to be.

If there are 16 linebackers in the conference better than Georgia Southern's Ironhead Gallon I'm a Victoria's Secret model.

Our secondary may not be overly great but it won't be considered the 9th best by seasons end.


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - WinstonTheWolf - 06-30-2016 07:41 PM

(06-30-2016 06:46 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I picked up Steele's magazine today

Predicted Order of Finish (national rank)
1. Arkansas State (60)
1. Appalachian State (66)
3. Georgia Southern (72)
4. ULL (92)
5. Troy (101)
6. Idaho (116)
6. South Alabama (118)
6. Georgia State (119)
9. New Mexico State (124)
10. ULM (127)
11. Texas State (128) (WTF?)

Position Rankings

QB
1. App State
2. Arkansas State
2. Georgia Southern
2. Troy
2. Idaho
6. NMSU
6. Texas State
8. ULM
9. ULL
9. South Alabama


RB
1. Georgia Southern
1. App State
1. NMSU
4. ULL
5. South Alabama
6. Arkansas State
7. Troy
8. ULM
9. Georgia State
9.Idaho
11. Texas State

WR
1. Georgia State
2. Idaho
3. South Alabama
4. NMSU
5. Arkansas State
6. ULM
7. ULL
8. Troy
9. App State
10.Texas State
11. Georgia Southern

OL
1. Arkansas State
2. Georgia Southern
2. App State
4. Idaho
5. Texas State
6. ULL
7. Troy
8. NMSU
9. South Alabama
10. ULM
10. Georgia State

DL
1. Arkansas State
2. Georgia Southern
3. Troy
3. App State
5. ULL
6. Georgia State
7. NMSU
8. ULM
9. Texas State
10. Idaho
10. South Alabama

LB
1. App State
2. Georgia State
3. Arkansas State
3. Georgia Southern
5. ULL
5. Troy
7. South Alabama
7. NMSU
9. ULM
10. Idaho
10. Texas State

DB
1. Arkansas State
1. Appalachian State
3. ULL
3. South Alabama
3. Georgia State
6. Troy
7. Idaho
7. ULM
9. Georgia Southern
10. NMSU
10. Texas State

Most Improved Teams (Nationally)
3. UL Lafayette
7. Troy

Some Quotes

"[App St] is arguably the most talented team in the Sun Belt"

"[Ark State] could be a surprise contender for the Group of 5 NY Day bowl bid"

"I can tell you this, UL has made my coveted Most Improved list on page 38 and that means a return to their winning ways and a bowl game!"

"You might want to check page 38 and see if [Troy] has made my Most Improved List"

(regarding Texas State) "it will be an accomplishment just to top last year's 3 win total"


My comments

Interesting that he rated Ark. State #2 at the QB position but his top 4 QBs are Lamb, Upshaw, Silvers, and Linehan.

I don't believe that that Texas State is as talent-decrepit as he makes them out to be.

If there are 16 linebackers in the conference better than Georgia Southern's Ironhead Gallon I'm a Victoria's Secret model.

Our secondary may not be overly great but it won't be considered the 9th best by seasons end.

A-State's WRs will be better than 5th. Speed thrills. Size kills. Paschal, Echols-Luper, Sanders, Murray . . . lookout!


RE: Phil Steele's 2016 College Football Preview . . Arkansas State - AppManDG - 06-30-2016 07:57 PM

On paper 9th is about right for App State WR's. We lost a ton of experience, but nobody in that group could match the athleticism, stretch the field or run away from DB's like these guys can. They are green, but man are they talented. By mid year this bunch ought to be something special to watch.