(07-05-2018 10:52 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  I would easily trade 1 more year with Porter to gain 1 year with Robinson and 3 (maybe 4) years with Dickins. If headache Porter doesn’t leave we probably don’t gain either 2 bigs. No one really cares if an internet poster is skeptical or cautiously optimistic about these guys. Porter came to ODU from GMU averaging 3 pts and 2 rbg in almost 15 minutes / game as a freshman year 1. Doesn’t that suck based on all the genius analysis here about Robinson and Dickens. Porter didn’t improve a whole lot year 2 at ODU then improved by second half of his 3rd year. The reason is JJ and staff spent the time to develop Porter and built offensive plays to highlight him. I predict about 10 and 6 and 20-22 minutes / game at Nevada. There is no way Nevada lets freshman 5s like Brown and KJ ride the bench behind Porter. Porter will lose minutes and he made a huge mistake, while ODU will benefit. How can anyone not see this trade as a big win for ODU and JJ. Smh. Looking at some of these comments it’s obvious. JJ and staff will develop Robinson and Dickins the same way they developed Porter. We are loaded. I could care less whose skeptical or cautious. Its a win. GO BLUE

(07-05-2018 10:15 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  We could easily pull hundreds of posts critiquing JJ's inability to recruit a freshman big (then he recruited two highly rated prospects), then the goalposts were moved because he couldn't land a transfer big man (then he recruited two former 4* bigs), now it's we'll have to wait and see if these recruits develop into stars.

The ONLY critiques of JJ that are steadfast are his lack of conference championships and NCAAT appearances.

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(07-05-2018 12:30 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Count me among those that are extremely happy about getting the two 7 footers. It is a good mix to have one with experience and the other with more time available with ODU in the future. I realize that neither of them have lit the world of college basketball up, but I've been around long enough to know that either a change of scenery or simply another year to develop can sometimes make a big difference in a player's performance.

I think the combination of either Robinson or Dickens at the 5 paired with either Ezikpe or Reece at the 4 is going to be the optimal paring for ODU under Jeff's system. It is possible that Carver shows enough improvement offensively to be in the mix for the 4 as well.

Until Caver, Green, and Stith become more consistent from game to game offensively there will always be plenty of opportunities for the big guys inside.

(07-05-2018 01:29 PM)FearTheLion Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 12:30 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Count me among those that are extremely happy about getting the two 7 footers. It is a good mix to have one with experience and the other with more time available with ODU in the future. I realize that neither of them have lit the world of college basketball up, but I've been around long enough to know that either a change of scenery or simply another year to develop can sometimes make a big difference in a player's performance.

I think the combination of either Robinson or Dickens at the 5 paired with either Ezikpe or Reece at the 4 is going to be the optimal paring for ODU under Jeff's system. It is possible that Carver shows enough improvement offensively to be in the mix for the 4 as well.

Until Caver, Green, and Stith become more consistent from game to game offensively there will always be plenty of opportunities for the big guys inside.

+1. Not to mention the added benefit of having a big to substitute for a big during foul trouble. This is a HUGE advancement in recruiting whether acknowledged on here or not. And I think Ezikpe and Reese will both eat as the result of not having 6' 9" - 6' 10" guys guarding them every night like Branden unfortunately had to face.

(07-05-2018 01:48 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Brandan's issues were his lack of an offensive game (primarily putback/layups). His strength was rebounding and defense....scoring just wasn't something he was great at. Most of the opposing teams bigs guarded Porter though.

(07-05-2018 10:50 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:34 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 10:15 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  We could easily pull hundreds of posts critiquing JJ's inability to recruit a freshman big (then he recruited two highly rated prospects), then the goalposts were moved because he couldn't land a transfer big man (then he recruited two former 4* bigs), now it's we'll have to wait and see if these recruits develop into stars.

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Yep. And that's the big one...

EXACTLY.... right behind running a clean program.

(07-05-2018 04:29 PM)monarx Wrote:  https://pilotonline.com/sports/high-school/football/article_a5fff7ec-089f-5c29-898a-5e55c415fc88.html

Top 50 graduated football players in Hampton Roads. What is interesting is out of the top 20, we apparently only offered 1 player going to a G5 school, Dante Burke who is going to Temple of all places. Other than that, there were a few G5 players in the top 20 who we did not offer according to 24-7. ECU, Ga St, Cen. Fla & Coastal grabbed a recruit. I assume we did offer most of the P5 kids, but didnt feel like looking it up. There were a few higher rated players going to FCS teams which was surprising. Not sure why those guys didnt have FBS offers.

(07-05-2018 07:00 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(07-05-2018 04:29 PM)monarx Wrote:  https://pilotonline.com/sports/high-school/football/article_a5fff7ec-089f-5c29-898a-5e55c415fc88.html

Top 50 graduated football players in Hampton Roads. What is interesting is out of the top 20, we apparently only offered 1 player going to a G5 school, Dante Burke who is going to Temple of all places. Other than that, there were a few G5 players in the top 20 who we did not offer according to 24-7. ECU, Ga St, Cen. Fla & Coastal grabbed a recruit. I assume we did offer most of the P5 kids, but didnt feel like looking it up. There were a few higher rated players going to FCS teams which was surprising. Not sure why those guys didnt have FBS offers.

You realize this is the basketball recruiting board, right?

(07-04-2018 08:28 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 03:51 PM)bluelight Wrote:  

(07-04-2018 02:27 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  You guys have a tread you can post all you want. Let's keep this tread about recruiting. If you want to add something about a recruit or the class, please do.

Some of you guys are dreaming. Both 7ft. players were recruited very late and both averaged 2pts. per game. Forget the High school 4star, we are in the d-1 basketball and both showed they are not 4 star players. Don't brag on JJ recruiting, applaud him if he has a good season next year. Unfortunately these players are work in progress.
I am still waiting for their schedule and what their record will be at the end of 2019.

Great recruiting job by JJ and staff. Congratulations! They brought in two 4 Star rated 7 footers. These guys will bring a lot to the table in terms of defending the rim, grabbing rebounds, and scoring. Dickens is a fantastic shot blocker and is very speedy and agile for a 7 footer!

(07-05-2018 07:30 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Let's hope that these recruits offer an improved frontcourt to Stith and Porter next year. I'm skeptical, but we'll see. While Brandan was undersized and his production can probably be replaced by one of them, he was a 5th year senior that knew where to be and what to do. No matter how you dice it, losing Porter created a big problem and I highly doubt his production will be replaced.

(07-05-2018 10:52 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  I would easily trade 1 more year with Porter to gain 1 year with Robinson and 3 (maybe 4) years with Dickins. If headache Porter doesn’t leave we probably don’t gain either 2 bigs. No one really cares if an internet poster is skeptical or cautiously optimistic about these guys. Porter came to ODU from GMU averaging 3 pts and 2 rbg in almost 15 minutes / game as a freshman year 1. Doesn’t that suck based on all the genius analysis here about Robinson and Dickens. Porter didn’t improve a whole lot year 2 at ODU then improved by second half of his 3rd year. The reason is JJ and staff spent the time to develop Porter and built offensive plays to highlight him. I predict about 10 and 6 and 20-22 minutes / game at Nevada. There is no way Nevada lets freshman 5s like Brown and KJ ride the bench behind Porter. Porter will lose minutes and he made a huge mistake, while ODU will benefit. How can anyone not see this trade as a big win for ODU and JJ. Smh. Looking at some of these comments it’s obvious. JJ and staff will develop Robinson and Dickins the same way they developed Porter. We are loaded. I could care less whose skeptical or cautious. Its a win. GO BLUE

(07-05-2018 08:10 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  So now "stars" aren't important in recruiting???

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(07-05-2018 10:52 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  I would easily trade 1 more year with Porter to gain 1 year with Robinson and 3 (maybe 4) years with Dickins. If headache Porter doesn’t leave we probably don’t gain either 2 bigs. No one really cares if an internet poster is skeptical or cautiously optimistic about these guys. Porter came to ODU from GMU averaging 3 pts and 2 rbg in almost 15 minutes / game as a freshman year 1. Doesn’t that suck based on all the genius analysis here about Robinson and Dickens. Porter didn’t improve a whole lot year 2 at ODU then improved by second half of his 3rd year. The reason is JJ and staff spent the time to develop Porter and built offensive plays to highlight him. I predict about 10 and 6 and 20-22 minutes / game at Nevada. There is no way Nevada lets freshman 5s like Brown and KJ ride the bench behind Porter. Porter will lose minutes and he made a huge mistake, while ODU will benefit. How can anyone not see this trade as a big win for ODU and JJ. Smh. Looking at some of these comments it’s obvious. JJ and staff will develop Robinson and Dickins the same way they developed Porter. We are loaded. I could care less whose skeptical or cautious. Its a win. GO BLUE