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Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - SuperFlyBCat - 04-25-2016 08:47 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/us/marijuana-grow-operation-found-at-ohio-slaying-sites/

(CNN)Investigators found three marijuana "grow operations" at rural residences where eight family members were killed in southern Ohio, state Attorney General Mike DeWine said Sunday at a news conference.

Authorities wouldn't say publicly whether they thought the killings were drug-related, but an official with knowledge of the operation told CNN's Nick Valencia: "This operation was not for personal use; it was for something much bigger than that. It was a very sophisticated operation."
The cold-blooded nature of the killings has rattled Piketon, a town of about 2,000 people 90 miles east of Cincinnati.
The victims, who ranged in age from 16 to 44, were methodically shot in the head Friday while sleeping at four residences, including a mother with a 4-day-old infant lying beside her, authorities said. The newborn, along with a 6-month-old and a 3-year-old, survived. The official said the killings happened before dawn.
"This was a preplanned execution of eight individuals," DeWine said. "It was a sophisticated operation and those who carried it out were trying to do everything they could do to hinder the investigation and their prosecution."
The killer or killers were specifically going after the Rhoden family, Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader emphasized, though he didn't say why. The suspects are probably armed and a danger to surviving family members, he added.
"We have a specific family that's been targeted but I don't think there's been a threat to any other members of the community," he said. "I cautioned them they are a target and I cautioned them, 'Be armed.'"
Pike County has 30,000 residents and deputies cannot be everywhere to protect residents, Reader said. To the public he said, "I can tell you if you are fearful, arm yourselves."
DeWine said 50-60 people have been interviewed, 100 tips received, 18 pieces of evidence submitted to the crime lab and at least five search warrants issued and completed. Seven of the eight autopsies have been performed so far, the last one scheduled for Monday, said DeWine.
He wouldn't say how many guns were used in the shootings and if the Rhoden family was involved in any crimes. At first he wouldn't answer when a reporter asked if marijuana was involved.
"We will not be telegraphing or telling the bad guys everything we know," he said.
But as the news conference ended, DeWine said, "Let me go ahead and I think it's OK for me to confirm that we did find marijuana at three locations."
"Like bags of marijuana?" a reporter said. "Grow operation?" another asked.
"Grow operation," DeWine said and walked away.
The victims were identified as Hannah Gilley, 20; Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40; Christopher Rhoden Jr., 16; Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, 20; Dana Rhoden, 37; Gary Rhoden, 38; Hanna Rhoden, 19; and Kenneth Rhoden, 44.
Dana Rhoden left work about 11 p.m. Thursday, Valencia reported. The sheriff's office received calls about 7:30 a.m. Friday from relatives who found bodies in the residences. Two residences are within walking distance, authorities said. A third is about a mile away and the fourth about eight miles away, they said.
A Cincinnati-based restaurant owner, Jeff Ruby, has offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to an arrest in the case, DeWine said Saturday.
Authorities have found marijuana growing in Pike County previously.
In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."
Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.
DeWine has not indicated any connection between the 2012 findings and the operations found on the Rhoden properties.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - UofMemphis - 04-25-2016 08:58 AM

Quote:In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."
Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.

you can run the cartels out by legalizing, and growing in America...then tax the crap out of it.

bye bye cartels...brings in jobs, and tax dollars...


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - gsu95 - 04-25-2016 09:06 AM

(04-25-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
Quote:In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."
Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.

you can run the cartels out by legalizing, and growing in America...then tax the crap out of it.

bye bye cartels...brings in jobs, and tax dollars...

Amen. Prohibition doesn't work. Legalize it, tax it.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - Motown Bronco - 04-25-2016 09:10 AM

Until it's fully legalized, which I hope it is one day, you're playing russian roulette getting caught up with drug cartels. The profit the black market provides are highly lucrative, sure. But if you're doing anything more than growing a few plants on the side, you shouldn't be housing three babies in that world. Those cartel thugs are so ruthless, I'm actually surprised they spared the lives of the infants.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - SuperFlyBCat - 04-25-2016 09:19 AM

(04-25-2016 09:10 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Until it's fully legalized, which I hope it is one day, you're playing russian roulette getting caught up with drug cartels. The profit the black market provides are highly lucrative, sure. But if you're doing anything more than growing a few plants on the side, you shouldn't be housing three babies in that world. Those cartel thugs are so ruthless, I'm actually surprised they spared the lives of the infants.

X100


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - bearcat65 - 04-25-2016 09:38 AM

Lot of speculation on this. At this time no one knows for sure what happened here other than 8 people were executed. I read one newspaper article where they speculated this was the result of a demolition derby feud. I live in the area and they routinely find grow operations out here. While this certainly seems like a drug related murder I don't think we can say for sure whether it was or not.
Certainly tragic and whoever did it knew what they were doing. Going to 4 different locations and killing people without alerting anyone requires some degree of skill.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - Bull_In_Exile - 04-25-2016 09:44 AM

(04-25-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
Quote:In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."
Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.

you can run the cartels out by legalizing, and growing in America...then tax the crap out of it.

bye bye cartels...brings in jobs, and tax dollars...

I say this as someone who would have little if any problem with legalizing MJ..

You must be a damn idiot if you think that making MJ legal would do any substantive long term damage to drug cartels. Gangs did not go away when away when prohibition was lifted. They paused, got into other things and resumed.

There would be a very short term kick in the shins to cartels, nothing more.

If you made MJ illegal it's not like the cartels would throw their hands up and say "Well guys we had a good run but clearly there are no more illegal vices off which we can profit".

They would continue to traffic in people, other drugs, and anything else which can not be purchased legally.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - ArmyBlazer - 04-25-2016 09:54 AM

While I agree that you can't say definitively that it was drug related, it does seem to point to it. I read an article earlier this morning where the county acknowledged that pot growing operations with ties to the cartels have been a problem in the past and at least someone in that family was running a grow. That, combined with sophistication and ruthlessness of the crime points in that direction.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - dbacard - 04-25-2016 10:13 AM

(04-25-2016 09:19 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 09:10 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Until it's fully legalized, which I hope it is one day, you're playing russian roulette getting caught up with drug cartels. The profit the black market provides are highly lucrative, sure. But if you're doing anything more than growing a few plants on the side, you shouldn't be housing three babies in that world. Those cartel thugs are so ruthless, I'm actually surprised they spared the lives of the infants.

X100

Luckily they didnt use the cartel contract killers from Breaking Bad.


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - Niner National - 04-25-2016 12:04 PM

(04-25-2016 09:44 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(04-25-2016 08:58 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
Quote:In August 2012, DeWine issued a press release saying law enforcement officers found "a major marijuana grow site in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel."
Investigators destroyed about 1,200 marijuana plants and found two abandoned campsites they believe belonged to Mexican nationals, the release said.

you can run the cartels out by legalizing, and growing in America...then tax the crap out of it.

bye bye cartels...brings in jobs, and tax dollars...

I say this as someone who would have little if any problem with legalizing MJ..

You must be a damn idiot if you think that making MJ legal would do any substantive long term damage to drug cartels. Gangs did not go away when away when prohibition was lifted. They paused, got into other things and resumed.

There would be a very short term kick in the shins to cartels, nothing more.

If you made MJ illegal it's not like the cartels would throw their hands up and say "Well guys we had a good run but clearly there are no more illegal vices off which we can profit".

They would continue to traffic in people, other drugs, and anything else which can not be purchased legally.
agree. They've already started shifting away from marijuana and more into meth and human trafficking.

People with millions of dollars at their disposal and lots of power (politically and weaponized) don't just simply go "shucks, I guess I'll go get a job now."


RE: Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites - SuperFlyBCat - 04-28-2016 11:26 AM

Jeff Ruby
‏@TheRealJeffRuby
With recent complex criminal developments in Pike Co case, we are withdrawing our reward and involvement. Grieving and praying for family.