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MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - HuskieJohn - 01-12-2016 01:39 PM
http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/old-dominion/basketball/sources-conference-usa-odu-will-see-vastly-reduced-tv-revenue/article_f89181d1-f34f-58fc-9e73-53809bbbcc60.html
"Old Dominion and the other 13 14 Conference USA schools will have to make do with about $500,000 less in television revenue next season."
"The two networks paid the league more than $14 million per year -- about $1.17 million per school -- for the past six years. "
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - perimeterpost - 01-12-2016 02:40 PM
Interesting.
Some of their info isn't 100% accurate though. It says CUSA is the first mid major to renegotiate since realignment. Not true, MAC renegotiated in 2014 after realignment was settled. It also says the MAC earns $670K per school ($8M/yr) which is true, but only until 2017 when it jumps to $833K per school ($10M/yr) for 10 years.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - HuskieJohn - 01-12-2016 02:49 PM
(01-12-2016 02:40 PM)perimeterpost Wrote: Interesting.
Some of their info isn't 100% accurate though. It says CUSA is the first mid major to renegotiate since realignment. Not true, MAC renegotiated in 2014 after realignment was settled. It also says the MAC earns $670K per school ($8M/yr) which is true, but only until 2017 when it jumps to $833K per school ($10M/yr) for 10 years.
I cant blame the article for getting the MAC info wrong. The details on the MAC deal are so sketchy and secret that other than the one tweet from Bret after some digging there is no other "source". Everyone goes back to his first article and later tweet as the reference.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - Love and Honor - 01-12-2016 03:29 PM
Less TV money + higher travel costs + higher coaching salaries = Dip in the G5 hierarchy
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - HuskieJohn - 01-12-2016 03:36 PM
(01-12-2016 03:29 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: Less TV money + higher travel costs + higher coaching salaries = Dip in the G5 hierarchy
Very good point.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - EigenEagle - 01-12-2016 03:48 PM
The only way some CUSA and the SBC schools are going to get decent money from TV on par with the rest of the G5 is to dissolve and form 2 new conferences based upon athletic competitiveness and size of fan base and not media market size.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - MaddDawgz02 - 01-12-2016 04:27 PM
(01-12-2016 03:29 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: Less TV money + higher travel costs + higher coaching salaries = Dip in the G5 hierarchy
If you have no fans left though, its kind of all a lost point isn't it?
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - Schadenfreude - 01-12-2016 04:40 PM
Marshall has got to hate this.
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/Sports/201303280230
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - Kittonhead - 01-12-2016 04:42 PM
I'll check into it but if I am correct the schools that departed for the AAC are under the hook to pay the difference with the new deal in escrow.
Rice's open interest ib the MWC speaks volumes about the direction in CUSA.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - BeliefBlazer - 01-12-2016 04:45 PM
(01-12-2016 04:42 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: I'll check into it but if I am correct the schools that departed for the AAC are under the hook to pay the difference with the new deal in escrow.
They way it was explained to me: Only to the schools in C-USA at the time they left and only for the first couple years of the new contract.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - Kittonhead - 01-12-2016 07:21 PM
(01-12-2016 04:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:(01-12-2016 04:42 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: I'll check into it but if I am correct the schools that departed for the AAC are under the hook to pay the difference with the new deal in escrow.
They way it was explained to me: Only to the schools in C-USA at the time they left and only for the first couple years of the new contract.
In the same way that UConn, USF and UC were bought off temporarily with departing BE members exit fees and units, CUSA has the same deal in place on the TV side for UAB, UTEP, Marshall, Rice and SoMiss.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - goodknightfl - 01-12-2016 08:22 PM
(01-12-2016 07:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:(01-12-2016 04:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:(01-12-2016 04:42 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: I'll check into it but if I am correct the schools that departed for the AAC are under the hook to pay the difference with the new deal in escrow.
They way it was explained to me: Only to the schools in C-USA at the time they left and only for the first couple years of the new contract.
In the same way that UConn, USF and UC were bought off temporarily with departing BE members exit fees and units, CUSA has the same deal in place on the TV side for UAB, UTEP, Marshall, Rice and SoMiss.
I think UH, Memphis, and ECU wont have to pay. UCF should get hit for 2 years. If memory is correct we were on the hook for 5, and 3 of those are in rear view mirror.
So old CUSA schools will get a reprieve, but it is short lived.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - HuskieJohn - 01-13-2016 10:25 AM
(01-12-2016 04:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:(01-12-2016 04:42 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: I'll check into it but if I am correct the schools that departed for the AAC are under the hook to pay the difference with the new deal in escrow.
They way it was explained to me: Only to the schools in C-USA at the time they left and only for the first couple years of the new contract.
Wow..so 6 AAC schools have to split the CUSA decrease of $6.5mil per year ($500k X 13 teams) for the next few years?
ECU
Tulane
Tulsa
UCF
Houston
SMU
Memphis
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - UofMemphis - 01-13-2016 01:50 PM
Memphis paid nothing to leave CUSA, and doesn't have to pay them anything going forward...
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2013/nov/10/tigers-final-bill-for-leaving-conference-usa/?CID=happeningnow
Quote:So here’s good news for Memphis’ pocketbook as it pertains to what it actually bought: C-USA and the U of M reached a settlement this summer by which the school’s total cost of separation from its old league is a tidy and manageable figure: $0.
MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - Pony94 - 01-13-2016 01:53 PM
(01-13-2016 10:25 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:(01-12-2016 04:45 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:(01-12-2016 04:42 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: I'll check into it but if I am correct the schools that departed for the AAC are under the hook to pay the difference with the new deal in escrow.
They way it was explained to me: Only to the schools in C-USA at the time they left and only for the first couple years of the new contract.
Wow..so 6 AAC schools have to split the CUSA decrease of $6.5mil per year ($500k X 13 teams) for the next few years?
ECU
Tulane
Tulsa
UCF
Houston
SMU
Memphis
Schools added after we left aren't compensated
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - IULurker - 01-13-2016 04:25 PM
I would assume there will be no compensation of that sort because the television partners did not reduce the contract once those schools departed. This new contract has nothing to do with the departures, simply that the previous contract had expired. In other words, I assume the penalty was stated such that the departing schools would owe the contract difference IF the contract was renegotiated due to their departure (which did not happen).
Surely former AAC schools cannot be held accountable for that in their exit arrangement, or am I thinking of this wrong?
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - BeliefBlazer - 01-14-2016 03:04 PM
Schools are responsible for contract reductions up to 5 years after they left. Teams that left before that are off the hook.
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - emu steve - 01-14-2016 04:08 PM
Memory check: Did the MAC get 6M from Temple when they left? Or was that negotiated or re-negotiated down?
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - HuskieJohn - 01-14-2016 04:09 PM
(01-14-2016 04:08 PM)emu steve Wrote: Memory check: Did the MAC get 6M from Temple when they left? Or was that negotiated or re-negotiated down?
Yes 6mil
RE: MAC > CUSA in TV money starting 2016-2017 season. - IceJus10 - 01-14-2016 05:45 PM
If I remember back to 2011 and 2012 when the teams announced their departures from CUSA, they were only on the hook for decreases in the current contract through mid-2016. This new contract does not take effect until after that, so those former schools will not be on the hook.