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'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - EverRespect - 12-29-2015 09:32 AM

Quote:Part I in a series of widely held beliefs that are either untrue or meaningless:

In every age, people say and believe things that aren't true but somehow become accepted as "conventional wisdom."

The statement "I'm not ready to get married" is a current example. Said by more and more Americans between the ages of 21 and 40 (and some who are older than that), it usually qualifies as both meaningless and untrue. And it is one reason a smaller percentage of Americans are marrying than ever before.

So, here's a truth that young Americans need to hear:

Most people become "ready to get married" when they get married. Throughout history most people got married at a much younger age than people today. They were hardly "ready." They got married because society and/or their religion expected them to. And then, once married, people tended to rise to the occasion.

The same holds true for becoming a parent. Very few people are "ready" to become a parent. They become ready ... once they become a parent. In fact, the same holds true for any difficult job. What new lawyer was "ready" to take on his or her first clients? What new teacher, policeman, firefighter is "ready?"

You get ready to do something by doing it.

In addition, at least two bad things happen the longer you wait to get "ready" to be married.

One is that, if you are a woman, the number of quality single men declines. Among deniers of unpleasant realities -- people known as progressives, leftists, and feminists -- this truth is denied and labelled "sexist." But, as Susan Patton, a Princeton graduate, wrote in an article titled "Advice for the young women of Princeton," published in Princeton's student newspaper: "Find a husband on campus before you graduate. ... From a sheer numbers perspective, the odds will never be as good to be surrounded by all of these extraordinary men."

The other bad thing that happens when people wait until they are "ready" to get married is that they often end up waiting longer and longer. After a certain point, being single becomes the norm and the thought of marrying becomes less, not more, appealing. So over time you can actually become less "ready" to get married.

And one more thing: If you're 25 and not ready to commit to another person, in most cases -- even if you are a kind person, and a responsible worker or serious student -- "I'm not ready to get married" means "I'm not ready to stop being preoccupied with myself," or to put it as directly as possible, "I'm not ready to grow up." (No job on earth makes you grow up like getting married does.)

People didn't marry in the past only because they fell in love. And people can fall in love and not marry -- as happens frequently today. People married because it was a primary societal value. People understood that it was better for society and for the vast majority of its members that as many individuals as possible commit to someone and take care of that person. Among other things, when people stop taking care of one another, the state usually ends up doing so. Just compare the percentage of single people receiving welfare versus the percentage of married people.

Nor is the argument that the older people are when they marry, the less likely they are to divorce. This only applies in any significant way to those who marry as teenagers versus those who marry later. Moreover, the latest data are that those who marry in their early 30s are more likely to divorce than those who marry on their late 20s.

And then there is the economic argument. Many single men, for example, say they are not ready to get married because they don't have the income they would like to have prior to getting married. As responsible as this may sound, however, this is not a particularly rational argument. Why is marrying while at a low income a bad idea? In fact, marriage may be the best way to increase one's income. Men's income rises after marriage. They have less time to waste, and someone to help support -- two spurs to hard work and ambition, not to mention that most employers prefer men who are married. And can't two people live on less money than each would need if they lived on their own, paying for two apartments?

In addition to economic benefits, the vast majority of human beings do better when they have someone to come home to, someone to care for, and someone to care for them. And, no matter how much feminists and other progressives deny it, children do best when raised by a married couple. There are, most certainly, superb single parents. But every superb single parent I have ever spoken to wishes they had had a spouse with whom to raise their children.

Throughout history, and in every society, people married not when they were "ready" to marry, but when they reached marriageable age and were expected to assume adult responsibilities.

Finally, this statement reflects another negative trend in society -- that of people being guided by feelings rather than by standards or obligations. We live in an Age of Feelings. Aside from the rational and moral problems that derive from being guided by feelings rather than by reason and values, there is one other problem. In life, behavior shapes feelings. Act happy, you'll feel happy. Act single, you'll feel single. Act married, you'll feel married.

Do it, in other words. Then you'll be "ready."

http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2015/12/29/im-not-ready-to-get-married-n2097722


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - firmbizzle - 12-29-2015 09:33 AM

I wasn't ready until I had a steady income.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - Smaug - 12-29-2015 09:35 AM

So, what they should be saying is, "I don't WANT to be married."


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - Fo Shizzle - 12-29-2015 09:43 AM

(12-29-2015 09:35 AM)Smaug Wrote:  So, what they should be saying is, "I don't WANT to be married."

Yes.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - Hitch - 12-29-2015 09:49 AM

I didn't get married until both my now-wife and I had established our careers. Then we didn't have a kid until we had socked away enough money to actually care for a child properly.

There's a difference between "not being ready" and "not knowing how to get ready" for life's major milestones.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - SuperFlyBCat - 12-29-2015 10:22 AM

As long as women spread their legs, with no commitment from a man, then getting married for the younger
college educated crowd will continue to be delayed. Women have total control. If they all got together and
decided that none of us will give it up without a ring and a date then you would see people getting married
younger. People without degrees do get married younger, tend to live closer to their parents and have more
family support i.e, from grandparents and such.

Many women with degrees continue the hook up culture post graduation. They want to live in hip cities and
slut around on weekends. As stated before, if you are a younger guy, with a decent career and can't find a women
who wants to get married and have kids, go get a foreign girl from a poorer country.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - EverRespect - 12-29-2015 10:43 AM

(12-29-2015 10:22 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  As long as women spread their legs, with no commitment from a man, then getting married for the younger
college educated crowd will continue to be delayed. Women have total control. If they all got together and
decided that none of us will give it up without a ring and a date then you would see people getting married
younger. People without degrees do get married younger, tend to live closer to their parents and have more
family support i.e, from grandparents and such.

Many women with degrees continue the hook up culture post graduation. They want to live in hip cities and
slut around on weekends. As stated before, if you are a younger guy, with a decent career and can't find a women
who wants to get married and have kids, go get a foreign girl from a poorer country.

Biology will win that battle more times than not. In 10-20 years there is going to be an entire class of childless 40-50 year old women alone, drugged up on SSRIs, and wishing they could do it over again. While they certainly share some of the blame, feminism has been lying to them their whole lives. Successful men are already starting to dumpster dive for their wives. My nextdoor neighbor is an ENT surgeon, about 40+ years old, and just married an uneducated and trashy, but hot 25 year old single mom last summer. She is already pregnant. 40 year old men that delayed marriage still have options and can take on a fertile woman later in life. 40 year old women don't. Their biological clock is already timed out.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - UofMemphis - 12-29-2015 10:50 AM

believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - EverRespect - 12-29-2015 10:52 AM

(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - UofMemphis - 12-29-2015 10:55 AM

(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

it's never too late...plenty of old people get married and raise lots of dogs and cats...if that makes em happy...cool, y'all have fun!


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - gsu95 - 12-29-2015 10:55 AM

(12-29-2015 10:22 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  As long as women spread their legs, with no commitment from a man, then getting married for the younger
college educated crowd will continue to be delayed. Women have total control. If they all got together and
decided that none of us will give it up without a ring and a date then you would see people getting married
younger. People without degrees do get married younger, tend to live closer to their parents and have more
family support i.e, from grandparents and such.

Many women with degrees continue the hook up culture post graduation. They want to live in hip cities and
slut around on weekends. As stated before, if you are a younger guy, with a decent career and can't find a women
who wants to get married and have kids, go get a foreign girl from a poorer country.

Yep. As Gary Busey put it in that underrated movie classic "DC Cab," women got it made. They have "half the money and all the p###y."


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - EverRespect - 12-29-2015 11:00 AM

(12-29-2015 10:55 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

it's never too late...plenty of old people get married and raise lots of dogs and cats...if that makes em happy...cool, y'all have fun!

Good luck to the women that want to find someone to marry them after fertility. Sure, it's possible, but the odds get longer every year. More likely she winds up alone, isolated and dependent on SSRIs.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - Smaug - 12-29-2015 11:00 AM

(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

Too late for what? Kids?


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - UofMemphis - 12-29-2015 11:01 AM

(12-29-2015 11:00 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:55 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

it's never too late...plenty of old people get married and raise lots of dogs and cats...if that makes em happy...cool, y'all have fun!

Good luck to the women that want to find someone to marry them after fertility. Sure, it's possible, but the odds get longer every year. More likely she winds up alone, isolated and dependent on SSRIs.

lol, wut? your angry old man is showing again...


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - EverRespect - 12-29-2015 11:02 AM

(12-29-2015 11:00 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

Too late for what? Kids?

That is correct. Women can be barren by the time they are 35. Peak fertility is early 20s.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - UofMemphis - 12-29-2015 11:05 AM

(12-29-2015 11:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 11:00 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

Too late for what? Kids?

That is correct. Women can be barren by the time they are 35. Peak fertility is early 20s.

women have kids in their 40s quite often...welcome to 2015!

moreover, why do you care? why are you obsessed with sex and kids?


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - EverRespect - 12-29-2015 11:08 AM

(12-29-2015 11:05 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 11:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 11:00 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  believe it or not, there are people who want nothing to do with getting married, or having kids...

True, until it is too late.

Too late for what? Kids?

That is correct. Women can be barren by the time they are 35. Peak fertility is early 20s.

women have kids in their 40s quite often...welcome to 2015!

moreover, why do you care? why are you obsessed with sex and kids?

No, it is not quite often. It usually requires expensive fertility treatments that do not have great success rates.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - UofMemphis - 12-29-2015 11:11 AM

^ look out everybody...he's a OBGYN, now!


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - gsu95 - 12-29-2015 11:16 AM

(12-29-2015 11:08 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 11:05 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 11:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 11:00 AM)Smaug Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 10:52 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  True, until it is too late.

Too late for what? Kids?

That is correct. Women can be barren by the time they are 35. Peak fertility is early 20s.

women have kids in their 40s quite often...welcome to 2015!

moreover, why do you care? why are you obsessed with sex and kids?

No, it is not quite often. It usually requires expensive fertility treatments that do not have great success rates.

I've heard gargling with catfish roe works.


RE: 'I'm Not Ready to Get Married' - Smaug - 12-29-2015 11:47 AM

So, not everybody wants kids. I'm a big fan of people who don't want kids not having them.