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RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - panama - 09-15-2015 11:58 AM

(09-15-2015 07:06 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/casino-supporters-gaining-momentum-georgia/nnfQf/

Supporters of casinos and para-mutual betting say there’s momentum now to put the issue to Georgia voters.

They say more then $1 billion in lottery revenue will be put out for Hope and Pre-K programs.

'Profits have been good, percentages have been good but at the end of the day, it’s not keeping up with demand,” said Chip Lake, who is part of a coalition called the Committee to Preserve Hope Scholarships.

It includes big name gaming resorts, including MGM.

The casino bill would allow a half-dozen casinos across the state.




Wait... I thought the threat of Casinos was all a smoke screen by the Mayor? Nope.
So try to keep up here...


1) Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels

2)Mayor says " Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels" and oh yeah summerhill residents some um other casino companies that um...I cant remember their names right now ...are thinking of building at Turner Field...bye now

3) Summerhil residents

[Image: tumblr_mgdfat7Gut1qer7yko1_400.gif]

GSU we hate you less than casinos


So yeah, there will be no casinos on the Ted property.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - TheEagleWay - 09-15-2015 12:15 PM

(09-15-2015 11:58 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 07:06 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/casino-supporters-gaining-momentum-georgia/nnfQf/

Supporters of casinos and para-mutual betting say there’s momentum now to put the issue to Georgia voters.

They say more then $1 billion in lottery revenue will be put out for Hope and Pre-K programs.

'Profits have been good, percentages have been good but at the end of the day, it’s not keeping up with demand,” said Chip Lake, who is part of a coalition called the Committee to Preserve Hope Scholarships.

It includes big name gaming resorts, including MGM.

The casino bill would allow a half-dozen casinos across the state.




Wait... I thought the threat of Casinos was all a smoke screen by the Mayor? Nope.
So try to keep up here...


1) Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels

2)Mayor says " Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels" and oh yeah summerhill residents some um other casino companies that um...I cant remember their names right now ...are thinking of building at Turner Field...bye now

3) Summerhil residents

[Image: tumblr_mgdfat7Gut1qer7yko1_400.gif]

GSU we hate you less than casinos


So yeah, there will be no casinos on the Ted property.

Pure speculation and you've taken actual quotes and spun them to fit your feelings.

Plus, you are talking about MGM, its a casino AND hotel. Turner Field or Gulch make no difference really. They could build in the middle of the desert and... wait... oh yeah.

I get it, none of y'all want Turner Field on the radar at all.

Don't get me wrong, you will be the better owner for that spot, but you can't simply ignore the external interests that are bearing down on Atlanta.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - NCeagle - 09-15-2015 12:23 PM

I like how panama tries to state his opinion as if it is fact.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - panama - 09-15-2015 12:26 PM

(09-15-2015 12:23 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I like how panama tries to state his opinion as if it is fact.

Ok

Carry on


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - panama - 09-15-2015 12:28 PM

(09-15-2015 12:15 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 11:58 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 07:06 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/casino-supporters-gaining-momentum-georgia/nnfQf/

Supporters of casinos and para-mutual betting say there’s momentum now to put the issue to Georgia voters.

They say more then $1 billion in lottery revenue will be put out for Hope and Pre-K programs.

'Profits have been good, percentages have been good but at the end of the day, it’s not keeping up with demand,” said Chip Lake, who is part of a coalition called the Committee to Preserve Hope Scholarships.

It includes big name gaming resorts, including MGM.

The casino bill would allow a half-dozen casinos across the state.




Wait... I thought the threat of Casinos was all a smoke screen by the Mayor? Nope.
So try to keep up here...


1) Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels

2)Mayor says " Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels" and oh yeah summerhill residents some um other casino companies that um...I cant remember their names right now ...are thinking of building at Turner Field...bye now

3) Summerhil residents

[Image: tumblr_mgdfat7Gut1qer7yko1_400.gif]

GSU we hate you less than casinos


So yeah, there will be no casinos on the Ted property.

Pure speculation and you've taken actual quotes and spun them to fit your feelings.

Plus, you are talking about MGM, its a casino AND hotel. Turner Field or Gulch make no difference really. They could build in the middle of the desert and... wait... oh yeah.

I get it, none of y'all want Turner Field on the radar at all.

Don't get me wrong, you will be the better owner for that spot, but you can't simply ignore the external interests that are bearing down on Atlanta.

Deep down we know you guys are hoping this doesn't happen 03-wink

And saying the gulch next to GWCC and the Ted are the same is pretty laughable. Maybe look at a map.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - TheEagleWay - 09-15-2015 12:31 PM

If you want to be adversarial about the issue, that's your thing man.

I've said all along State should get it.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - eaglewraith - 09-15-2015 12:38 PM

(09-15-2015 12:28 PM)panama Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 12:15 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 11:58 AM)panama Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 07:06 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/casino-supporters-gaining-momentum-georgia/nnfQf/

Supporters of casinos and para-mutual betting say there’s momentum now to put the issue to Georgia voters.

They say more then $1 billion in lottery revenue will be put out for Hope and Pre-K programs.

'Profits have been good, percentages have been good but at the end of the day, it’s not keeping up with demand,” said Chip Lake, who is part of a coalition called the Committee to Preserve Hope Scholarships.

It includes big name gaming resorts, including MGM.

The casino bill would allow a half-dozen casinos across the state.




Wait... I thought the threat of Casinos was all a smoke screen by the Mayor? Nope.
So try to keep up here...


1) Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels

2)Mayor says " Actual casino companies say they want to build casionos downtown and by downtown they mean actually downtown where there are like people and hotels" and oh yeah summerhill residents some um other casino companies that um...I cant remember their names right now ...are thinking of building at Turner Field...bye now

3) Summerhil residents

[Image: tumblr_mgdfat7Gut1qer7yko1_400.gif]

GSU we hate you less than casinos


So yeah, there will be no casinos on the Ted property.

Pure speculation and you've taken actual quotes and spun them to fit your feelings.

Plus, you are talking about MGM, its a casino AND hotel. Turner Field or Gulch make no difference really. They could build in the middle of the desert and... wait... oh yeah.

I get it, none of y'all want Turner Field on the radar at all.

Don't get me wrong, you will be the better owner for that spot, but you can't simply ignore the external interests that are bearing down on Atlanta.

Deep down we know you guys are hoping this doesn't happen 03-wink

And saying the gulch next to GWCC and the Ted are the same is pretty laughable. Maybe look at a map.

From the bottom of my heart, I sincerely hope you do.

I also hope the BoR makes it very easy for you. It would be in the best interest for all parties involved to make this happen as painlessly as possible.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - NCeagle - 09-15-2015 12:45 PM

poor panama. always trying to play the victim.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - panama - 09-15-2015 12:48 PM

(09-15-2015 12:45 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  poor panama. always trying to play the victim.

LOL...that's funny.


Like I said carry on and watch and see vs. postig non news you want to extrapolate into a GSU failure. There will be no casinos at the Ted. Book it. And keep a close eye on BOR meeting agendas. 03-wink


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - eaglewraith - 09-15-2015 02:00 PM

(09-15-2015 12:48 PM)panama Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 12:45 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  poor panama. always trying to play the victim.

LOL...that's funny.


Like I said carry on and watch and see vs. postig non news you want to extrapolate into a GSU failure. There will be no casinos at the Ted. Book it. And keep a close eye on BOR meeting agendas. 03-wink

Just link us when they come out. I'm sure we'll all be glad to see progress for you guys.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - StanMolsonMan - 09-15-2015 02:18 PM

(09-15-2015 12:15 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Plus, you are talking about MGM, its a casino AND hotel. Turner Field or Gulch make no difference really. They could build in the middle of the desert and... wait... oh yeah.

(09-15-2015 12:28 PM)panama Wrote:  And saying the gulch next to GWCC and the Ted are the same is pretty laughable. Maybe look at a map.

Great idea. Two maps same scale

The gulch
[Image: gulch.jpg]

Turner Field
[Image: Turnerfield.jpg]

So if we take away "speculation", the only area mentioned in the MGM proposal was the gulch area. The mayor was asked about the Civic Center and Turner Field, and he said we would have to consider everything on the table for those areas. He did not say MGM was interested in Turner. Everything else is speculation. He has been saying for 2 years that 2 gaming companies were interested in Turner but won't name them. He'll name MGM though. I wonder why. There hasn't been one other company to come out with a proposal. The other 2 casino companies that have hired lobbyists, Penn Gaming & Boyd Gaming... they don't deal in towns the size of Atlanta. Their casinos are off strip Vegas, and places like St Charles, MO, Aurora, IL, Bossier City, LA, & Peoria, IL. So if they continue the trend, Macon, Columbus & Augusta would be more their speed.

I shake my head to say the gulch and Turner Field make no difference. Look at the maps. They are the same size. It is like saying would you like your business to be next to the Wal-Mart that drives business its way, and you can sponge off of it, or would you like to be in the old, run down, center of town that hasn't been thriving for years.
Just look at the map of the gulch compared to Turner. You have MARTA. You are next to Philips, GWCC & the new Dome. All those red dots are hotels. And you say there would be no difference between Turner and the gulch.

So here is the predicament the City & County is in...
If you decide you are going to sell Turner to a casino, you have no one to buy the gulch. Look at the bigger city downtown casinos that have opened up with recent legislation that only allows limited opening of casinos and it is no coincidence there is only 1 downtown. There is only one casino in downtown St. Louis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Baltimore, New Orleans, and soon to be Boston. So if Atlanta goes that same route, and you have a buyer for Turner Field, and one of the largest casino companies in the world ready to throw down $1 billion dollars at the gulch... why would you sell Turner Field to a casino company and leave the gulch a parking lot?


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - panama - 09-15-2015 02:26 PM

(09-15-2015 02:18 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 12:15 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Plus, you are talking about MGM, its a casino AND hotel. Turner Field or Gulch make no difference really. They could build in the middle of the desert and... wait... oh yeah.

(09-15-2015 12:28 PM)panama Wrote:  And saying the gulch next to GWCC and the Ted are the same is pretty laughable. Maybe look at a map.

Great idea. Two maps same scale

The gulch
[Image: gulch.jpg]

Turner Field
[Image: Turnerfield.jpg]

So if we take away "speculation", the only area mentioned in the MGM proposal was the gulch area. The mayor was asked about the Civic Center and Turner Field, and he said we would have to consider everything on the table for those areas. He did not say MGM was interested in Turner. Everything else is speculation. He has been saying for 2 years that 2 gaming companies were interested in Turner but won't name them. He'll name MGM though. I wonder why. There hasn't been one other company to come out with a proposal. The other 2 casino companies that have hired lobbyists, Penn Gaming & Boyd Gaming... they don't deal in towns the size of Atlanta. Their casinos are off strip Vegas, and places like St Charles, MO, Aurora, IL, Bossier City, LA, & Peoria, IL. So if they continue the trend, Macon, Columbus & Augusta would be more their speed.

I shake my head to say the gulch and Turner Field make no difference. Look at the maps. They are the same size. It is like saying would you like your business to be next to the Wal-Mart that drives business its way, and you can sponge off of it, or would you like to be in the old, run down, center of town that hasn't been thriving for years.
Just look at the map of the gulch compared to Turner. You have MARTA. You are next to Philips, GWCC & the new Dome. All those red dots are hotels. And you say there would be no difference between Turner and the gulch.

So here is the predicament the City & County is in...
If you decide you are going to sell Turner to a casino, you have no one to buy the gulch. Look at the bigger city downtown casinos that have opened up with recent legislation that only allows limited opening of casinos and it is no coincidence there is only 1 downtown. There is only one casino in downtown St. Louis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Baltimore, New Orleans, and soon to be Boston. So if Atlanta goes that same route, and you have a buyer for Turner Field, and one of the largest casino companies in the world ready to throw down $1 billion dollars at the gulch... why would you sell Turner Field to a casino company and leave the gulch a parking lot?

Roll Credits


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - TheEagleWay - 09-15-2015 02:29 PM

Touché Stan, you make great points.

I was leaning more on the thought that a casino can thrive anywhere downtown, Field of Dreams effect so to speak. Being a beacon of 24/7/365 entertainment downtown, it can function all on its own.

Looking at it from Atlanta's position of "hey, MGM take the Gulch and State you take Turner", that does solve the 2 blights the city has been dealing with.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - StanMolsonMan - 09-15-2015 02:48 PM

(09-15-2015 02:29 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Touché Stan, you make great points.

I was leaning more on the thought that a casino can thrive anywhere downtown, Field of Dreams effect so to speak. Being a beacon of 24/7/365 entertainment downtown, it can function all on its own.

Looking at it from Atlanta's position of "hey, MGM take the Gulch and State you take Turner", that does solve the 2 blights the city has been dealing with.

We'll see. It is like that scene in Field of Dreams where the kid is getting his first at bat.

Quote:Shoeless Joe: Those first two were high and tight. So what do you think the next one will be?
Moonlight Graham: Either low and away or in my ear.
Shoeless Joe: He's not going to want to load the bases. So look for low and away.
Graham: Right.
Shoeless Joe: But watch out for in your ear.

It just makes sense for the city to sell 2 properties instead of one.... but watch out for in your ear.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - bullitt_60 - 09-15-2015 03:00 PM

(09-15-2015 02:48 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  It just makes sense for the city to sell 2 properties instead of one.... but watch out for in your ear.

You see, that's where you going wrong. You used "sense" and "city" in the same sentence. 03-drunk

I usually beat the free market/capitalist drum, but personally, while a casino might make financial sense, all I can think about when discussing them is Detroit. I know they are two different cities with different circumstances, but I just don't want any part of that.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - MTPiKapp - 09-15-2015 03:04 PM

I for one am hoping we get a casino and GSU gets a stadium. Personally I don't much care where State gets their stadium, but even playing at the MLS capacity in Mercedes Benz stadium isn't a good deal for them.

Just hoping the casino is on Marta, especially if it's south of the city.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - panama - 09-15-2015 03:16 PM

(09-15-2015 03:04 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I for one am hoping we get a casino and GSU gets a stadium. Personally I don't much care where State gets their stadium, but even playing at the MLS capacity in Mercedes Benz stadium isn't a good deal for them.

Just hoping the casino is on Marta, especially if it's south of the city.

Why as an Atlanta resident would you want a casino Downtown?


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - Usajags - 09-15-2015 04:22 PM

What did Atlanta do with the area around Underground Atlanta after the Coke museum moved???

Forgive me if I'm way behind on that area, it's been a more then a few years since being in that area.


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - soar#417 - 09-15-2015 04:23 PM

(09-15-2015 04:22 PM)Usajags Wrote:  What did Atlanta do with the area around Underground Atlanta after the Coke museum moved???

Forgive me if I'm way behind on that area, it's been a more then a few years since being in that area.

Nothing


RE: Georgia State's plan for Turner Field challenged - Usajags - 09-15-2015 04:26 PM

(09-15-2015 04:23 PM)soar#417 Wrote:  
(09-15-2015 04:22 PM)Usajags Wrote:  What did Atlanta do with the area around Underground Atlanta after the Coke museum moved???

Forgive me if I'm way behind on that area, it's been a more then a few years since being in that area.

Nothing

Then put the casino there, good access with the Marta and other things in the area.