(12-05-2015 12:09 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  -Congrats to BGSU, the better team won. If Johnson hadn't gotten hurt they probably would have threepeated. He is very good. I wouldn't put it past him to succeed in the NFL, I don't care how tall he is. He's got it.

-We just didn't have the horses to compete tonight. It would have been nice to have Hare or Graham, Tommylee and Corey Thomas but that was essentially the situation BGSU was in last year so I don't think they're feeling too sorry for us. Also, nobody has had more good fortune than us over the past several years.

-We needed to play a perfect game in order to hang around but unfortunately had too many dropped passes, bad snaps, etc. We had a TD by Deucee in the first half if we just get the handoff but the snap was late, not sure if that was on Ness or Fiedler. Huff's fumble was big too although I'm sure Mofo will explain to us how that was Carey and/or Bob Cole's fault. I love Huff but can't resist tweaking Mofo who complains about everything.

-It was not lost on BGSU that we were depleted on the D-line. We saw tonight how important Corey Thomas is. Also I don't recall seeing a lot of Mario Jones or Ruben Dunbar and Mosely has been MIA for awhile. We were going with Compton and Chambers at tackle quite a bit in the second half and that is not our best by a long shot.

-Even with all the rushing yardage our defense did pretty well. If you told me we would hold BGSU to 34 points I would say we had a good chance to win the game. BGSU ran something like 60 plays in the FIRST HALF due to lack of anything from our offense and we still hung around.

-Time to nitpick the playcalling. It took the coaches too long to figure out that there was no way Bouagnon was going to get yards on first down, or any down really. BGSU had everybody in the box. We needed more Huff and quick throws early in the game. It looked like they had Fiedler on the Ryan Morris plan until we were already behind by 21 points. Also there was a fourth down in the second half where Deucee came in motion and we fed him right into the pile between the tackles. Not sure what the theory was there.

-Fiedler did pretty well all things considered. I'm sure he's killing himself right now because some of his mistakes were just lack of recognition which will come with playing time. He had Brescacin open for a TD on the one he underthrew for a pick. Another time the announcers pointed out that he had two guys wide open for a probable TD and threw between them. He probably changed his mind at the last second there. I like what he's made of. Fiedler has a chance to be pretty good.

-Shawun Freakin' Lurry. He would have had two picks if not for the good defensive play by Deiter.

-Kenny G is an awesome player but he really needs to work on his blocking. We could have gotten a lot more out of a few plays with any kind of a block from him.

-The bowl game could be ugly for the same reasons we saw tonight but our team should be really good next year. We will certainly have great QB depth!

(12-05-2015 01:29 AM)NIUSAE Wrote:  I agree would love to see more of Huff but fumbles and not knowing where to lineup will keep you on the sidelines all day. I respectfully disagree about Huff>Wolfe/Spann.

(12-05-2015 12:31 AM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 12:09 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  -Congrats to BGSU, the better team won. If Johnson hadn't gotten hurt they probably would have threepeated. He is very good. I wouldn't put it past him to succeed in the NFL, I don't care how tall he is. He's got it.

-We just didn't have the horses to compete tonight. It would have been nice to have Hare or Graham, Tommylee and Corey Thomas but that was essentially the situation BGSU was in last year so I don't think they're feeling too sorry for us. Also, nobody has had more good fortune than us over the past several years.

-We needed to play a perfect game in order to hang around but unfortunately had too many dropped passes, bad snaps, etc. We had a TD by Deucee in the first half if we just get the handoff but the snap was late, not sure if that was on Ness or Fiedler. Huff's fumble was big too although I'm sure Mofo will explain to us how that was Carey and/or Bob Cole's fault. I love Huff but can't resist tweaking Mofo who complains about everything.

-It was not lost on BGSU that we were depleted on the D-line. We saw tonight how important Corey Thomas is. Also I don't recall seeing a lot of Mario Jones or Ruben Dunbar and Mosely has been MIA for awhile. We were going with Compton and Chambers at tackle quite a bit in the second half and that is not our best by a long shot.

-Even with all the rushing yardage our defense did pretty well. If you told me we would hold BGSU to 34 points I would say we had a good chance to win the game. BGSU ran something like 60 plays in the FIRST HALF due to lack of anything from our offense and we still hung around.

-Time to nitpick the playcalling. It took the coaches too long to figure out that there was no way Bouagnon was going to get yards on first down, or any down really. BGSU had everybody in the box. We needed more Huff and quick throws early in the game. It looked like they had Fiedler on the Ryan Morris plan until we were already behind by 21 points. Also there was a fourth down in the second half where Deucee came in motion and we fed him right into the pile between the tackles. Not sure what the theory was there.

-Fiedler did pretty well all things considered. I'm sure he's killing himself right now because some of his mistakes were just lack of recognition which will come with playing time. He had Brescacin open for a TD on the one he underthrew for a pick. Another time the announcers pointed out that he had two guys wide open for a probable TD and threw between them. He probably changed his mind at the last second there. I like what he's made of. Fiedler has a chance to be pretty good.

-Shawun Freakin' Lurry. He would have had two picks if not for the good defensive play by Deiter.

-Kenny G is an awesome player but he really needs to work on his blocking. We could have gotten a lot more out of a few plays with any kind of a block from him.

-The bowl game could be ugly for the same reasons we saw tonight but our team should be really good next year. We will certainly have great QB depth!

Good points! Bougnon had a good year, yet every time I watched him run I wondered how he would gain any yards. He is very slow. His accomplishments are quite impressive given how slow he is (or NIU's line is not as bad as some of us think and any of us could have run through the holes they provided - that's not how I saw it but I didn't rewatch any games to analyze it that closely).

This was a very strange year. I was very proud of the team for their efforts against OSU and tonight (despite losing) and for beating WMU and Toledo with their 3rd or 4th string QB (depending on who you ask) yet I was incredibly disappointed with their execution and/or effort against BC, CMU, and Ohio.

Anyway, I think Rod will be back next year. I am good with this. He is not perfect, but NIU could do a lot worse. If Hare can be ready for the start of the year I am confident NIU could win the MAC next year. If not, they have a chance but it would depend on Graham's development.

Finally, between now and next year I sure hope Huff can get his stuff together and do what it takes to get himself on the field as the starter. He is clearly ultra talented but cannot keep fumbling, missing blocks that get the QB killed, and not knowing where to line up. He looks like the best runner NIU has had since Turner (that include Wolfe and Spann), but he has a lot of work to put in to come close to being the type of all around players they were.

(12-05-2015 12:09 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  -Congrats to BGSU, the better team won. If Johnson hadn't gotten hurt they probably would have threepeated. He is very good. I wouldn't put it past him to succeed in the NFL, I don't care how tall he is. He's got it.

-We just didn't have the horses to compete tonight. It would have been nice to have Hare or Graham, Tommylee and Corey Thomas but that was essentially the situation BGSU was in last year so I don't think they're feeling too sorry for us. Also, nobody has had more good fortune than us over the past several years.

-We needed to play a perfect game in order to hang around but unfortunately had too many dropped passes, bad snaps, etc. We had a TD by Deucee in the first half if we just get the handoff but the snap was late, not sure if that was on Ness or Fiedler. Huff's fumble was big too although I'm sure Mofo will explain to us how that was Carey and/or Bob Cole's fault. I love Huff but can't resist tweaking Mofo who complains about everything.

-It was not lost on BGSU that we were depleted on the D-line. We saw tonight how important Corey Thomas is. Also I don't recall seeing a lot of Mario Jones or Ruben Dunbar and Mosely has been MIA for awhile. We were going with Compton and Chambers at tackle quite a bit in the second half and that is not our best by a long shot.

-Even with all the rushing yardage our defense did pretty well. If you told me we would hold BGSU to 34 points I would say we had a good chance to win the game. BGSU ran something like 60 plays in the FIRST HALF due to lack of anything from our offense and we still hung around.

-Time to nitpick the playcalling. It took the coaches too long to figure out that there was no way Bouagnon was going to get yards on first down, or any down really. BGSU had everybody in the box. We needed more Huff and quick throws early in the game. It looked like they had Fiedler on the Ryan Morris plan until we were already behind by 21 points. Also there was a fourth down in the second half where Deucee came in motion and we fed him right into the pile between the tackles. Not sure what the theory was there.

-Fiedler did pretty well all things considered. I'm sure he's killing himself right now because some of his mistakes were just lack of recognition which will come with playing time. He had Brescacin open for a TD on the one he underthrew for a pick. Another time the announcers pointed out that he had two guys wide open for a probable TD and threw between them. He probably changed his mind at the last second there. I like what he's made of. Fiedler has a chance to be pretty good.

-Shawun Freakin' Lurry. He would have had two picks if not for the good defensive play by Deiter.

-Kenny G is an awesome player but he really needs to work on his blocking. We could have gotten a lot more out of a few plays with any kind of a block from him.

-The bowl game could be ugly for the same reasons we saw tonight but our team should be really good next year. We will certainly have great QB depth!

(12-05-2015 01:29 AM)NIUSAE Wrote:  I agree would love to see more of Huff but fumbles and not knowing where to lineup will keep you on the sidelines all day. I respectfully disagree about Huff>Wolfe/Spann.

(12-05-2015 04:37 AM)SiegInc Wrote:  Can someone explain to me how we had three all-MAC selections for our offensive line? Sorry, that just gives me the impression they should be bullying people in the trenches. Clearly not the case tonight, nor in many other games. I had a feeling we wouldn't be able to establish the run because of this, and sure enough it wasn't there (of course it took Cole half the game to figure it out). Doesn't help that ACRB falls over when someone lays a finger on him either.

(12-05-2015 12:28 PM)SiegInc Wrote:  I also think Cole should've let Fiedler move the ball through the air more. From the start they ran the offense like he had already thrown 3 picks, and continued to run it that way despite getting stuffed with running the ball. He showed he could do it against Ohio, then you're going to basically say "we don't believe in you." I realize he ended up making some pretty bad throws, and was probably nervous, but what are you gonna do? Let BG keep marching down the field, then handing the ball right back to them when ACRB can't get it done? Our receivers are more reliable than our RB's at bailing us out IMO, just look at that first scoring drive in the third quarter.

(12-05-2015 10:14 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 01:29 AM)NIUSAE Wrote:  I agree would love to see more of Huff but fumbles and not knowing where to lineup will keep you on the sidelines all day. I respectfully disagree about Huff>Wolfe/Spann.

Is there anyone reasonable that thinks this?

Wolfe was a top 3 RB in program history and Spann is likely the last great RB the program has had.

(12-05-2015 02:27 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  It seems like our RBs get stuffed often or run for little gains, while opposing RBs chew us up for large gains. Is it the play calling, poor O-line play, our defensive front is not as good as the opposition's, our RBs are not as fast or shifty, or a combination of these? It just gets frustrating sometimes.