Quote:Declining enrollment at NSU leads to a Spartan challenge


Norfolk State's athletic program faces imposing financial challenges that, if unchecked, officials acknowledge could threaten its capacity to remain in Division I. NSU athletics lost nearly $2.4 million combined during the 2012-13 and 2013-14 fiscal years, according to documents provided by the Virginia Auditor of Public Accounts. Final figures for 2014-15 aren't yet available.

The deficits have been largely caused by declining enrollment - and thus declining revenue - a problem challenging many historically black colleges.

Norfolk State has been forced to make major cuts in athletics. For example, its baseball team, which won 13 games in a row last spring, saw its budget reduced from $577,507 last year to $387,191 this year. Most of the reductions came in scholarships and travel.

(10-23-2015 04:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

Quote:Declining enrollment at NSU leads to a Spartan challenge


Norfolk State's athletic program faces imposing financial challenges that, if unchecked, officials acknowledge could threaten its capacity to remain in Division I. NSU athletics lost nearly $2.4 million combined during the 2012-13 and 2013-14 fiscal years, according to documents provided by the Virginia Auditor of Public Accounts. Final figures for 2014-15 aren't yet available.

The deficits have been largely caused by declining enrollment - and thus declining revenue - a problem challenging many historically black colleges.

Norfolk State has been forced to make major cuts in athletics. For example, its baseball team, which won 13 games in a row last spring, saw its budget reduced from $577,507 last year to $387,191 this year. Most of the reductions came in scholarships and travel.

http://hamptonroads.com/2015/10/declining-enrollment-nsu-leads-spartan-challenge


Enrollment down to 5000 from 8500 when they went to DI.

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

(10-23-2015 05:15 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

Like:
Wake Forest, (less than 8 K)
Tulsa (under 5 K)
Navy, Army, AF (under 5K)
Rice

Davidson, Gonzaga, Richmond, St. Joe's, most of the Ivy League

That would cut over 100 colleges out of DI if you used 8K as the cut off.

(10-23-2015 07:14 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Louisiana-Monroe is FBS with an enrollment of 8,854, which should make them the smallest public school in FBS.

Things are a little different at private schools, where tuition revenue is much higher, and alumni giving makes up a substantial portion of the school's budget (not just athletics).

Norfolk State may be one of the biggest duplicates from the segregation era to drop - but there are still plenty more like Florida A&M, Alabama State, Southern, etc.

(10-23-2015 07:30 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  No one goes to Norfolk State if they can get into ODU, and since anyone who can read with their mouth closed gets into ODU, Norfolk State is in a world of hurt.

The problem for Norfolk State is that the HBCU is a relic of the past that will eventually be relegated to the dust bins of history. The first victims will be the HBCUs located in the same towns as other state schools. Norfolk State will eventually be merged into ODU, Central State with Wright State, Savannah State with Armstrong Atlantic, UNCG and NC A&T. They will all go the way of UT Nashville and Tennessee State.

(10-23-2015 07:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 05:15 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

Like:
Wake Forest, (less than 8 K)
Tulsa (under 5 K)
Navy, Army, AF (under 5K)
Rice

Davidson, Gonzaga, Richmond, St. Joe's, most of the Ivy League

That would cut over 100 colleges out of DI if you used 8K as the cut off.

I think Butler is much more less than 3000.

MEAC is built like ACC up and down the east coast. I do think for them to work together is to create a complete split of the north schools from the south for financial issues. Winston-Salem State dropped to D2 because of the same boat as Norfolk State in. Many conferences seem to shun the HBCU schools for prejudice reasons. That means when they do this, several D2 HBCU in their area could be called up.

West Virginia State, Central State Ohio (did mention they wanted to move up to D1), Kentucky State, Lincoln PA., Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, Bowie State, Cheyney, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, Virginia State, Virginia Union, Langston, LeMoyne-Owen, Stillman, Texas College, Tuskegee, Wiley, Albany State, Clark Atlanta, Fort Valley State, Fisk, Lane, Morehouse, and Spielman are examples that could fill in to make the north and south MEAC schools save money to become a tighter geographic footprint. The problem with some of the FCS conferences are that they are spread out, and not successful in sports. which they don't bring in money. Some of the D2 HBCU are more successful. Splitting the MEAC up, and bringing up the D2 HBCUs could help out better.

(10-23-2015 07:30 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  No one goes to Norfolk State if they can get into ODU, and since anyone who can read with their mouth closed gets into ODU, Norfolk State is in a world of hurt.

The problem for Norfolk State is that the HBCU is a relic of the past that will eventually be relegated to the dust bins of history. The first victims will be the HBCUs located in the same towns as other state schools. Norfolk State will eventually be merged into ODU, Central State with Wright State, Savannah State with Armstrong Atlantic, UNCG and NC A&T. They will all go the way of UT Nashville and Tennessee State.

(10-23-2015 07:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 05:15 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

Like:
Wake Forest, (less than 8 K)
Tulsa (under 5 K)
Navy, Army, AF (under 5K)
Rice

Davidson, Gonzaga, Richmond, St. Joe's, most of the Ivy League

That would cut over 100 colleges out of DI if you used 8K as the cut off.

I think Butler is much more less than 3000.

MEAC is built like ACC up and down the east coast. I do think for them to work together is to create a complete split of the north schools from the south for financial issues. Winston-Salem State dropped to D2 because of the same boat as Norfolk State in. Many conferences seem to shun the HBCU schools for prejudice reasons. That means when they do this, several D2 HBCU in their area could be called up.

West Virginia State, Central State Ohio (did mention they wanted to move up to D1), Kentucky State, Lincoln PA., Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, Bowie State, Cheyney, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, Virginia State, Virginia Union, Langston, LeMoyne-Owen, Stillman, Texas College, Tuskegee, Wiley, Albany State, Clark Atlanta, Fort Valley State, Fisk, Lane, Morehouse, and Spielman are examples that could fill in to make the north and south MEAC schools save money to become a tighter geographic footprint. The problem with some of the FCS conferences are that they are spread out, and not successful in sports. which they don't bring in money. Some of the D2 HBCU are more successful. Splitting the MEAC up, and bringing up the D2 HBCUs could help out better.

(10-23-2015 04:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

Quote:Declining enrollment at NSU leads to a Spartan challenge


Norfolk State's athletic program faces imposing financial challenges that, if unchecked, officials acknowledge could threaten its capacity to remain in Division I. NSU athletics lost nearly $2.4 million combined during the 2012-13 and 2013-14 fiscal years, according to documents provided by the Virginia Auditor of Public Accounts. Final figures for 2014-15 aren't yet available.

The deficits have been largely caused by declining enrollment - and thus declining revenue - a problem challenging many historically black colleges.

Norfolk State has been forced to make major cuts in athletics. For example, its baseball team, which won 13 games in a row last spring, saw its budget reduced from $577,507 last year to $387,191 this year. Most of the reductions came in scholarships and travel.

http://hamptonroads.com/2015/10/declining-enrollment-nsu-leads-spartan-challenge


Enrollment down to 5000 from 8500 when they went to DI.

(10-23-2015 09:20 PM)PGEMF Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 07:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 05:15 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 04:46 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Why is a college of 8500 in DI anyway?

Like:
Wake Forest, (less than 8 K)
Tulsa (under 5 K)
Navy, Army, AF (under 5K)
Rice

Davidson, Gonzaga, Richmond, St. Joe's, most of the Ivy League

That would cut over 100 colleges out of DI if you used 8K as the cut off.

I think Butler is much more less than 3000.

MEAC is built like ACC up and down the east coast. I do think for them to work together is to create a complete split of the north schools from the south for financial issues. Winston-Salem State dropped to D2 because of the same boat as Norfolk State in. Many conferences seem to shun the HBCU schools for prejudice reasons. That means when they do this, several D2 HBCU in their area could be called up.

West Virginia State, Central State Ohio (did mention they wanted to move up to D1), Kentucky State, Lincoln PA., Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, Bowie State, Cheyney, Johnson C. Smith, Livingstone, Virginia State, Virginia Union, Langston, LeMoyne-Owen, Stillman, Texas College, Tuskegee, Wiley, Albany State, Clark Atlanta, Fort Valley State, Fisk, Lane, Morehouse, and Spielman are examples that could fill in to make the north and south MEAC schools save money to become a tighter geographic footprint. The problem with some of the FCS conferences are that they are spread out, and not successful in sports. which they don't bring in money. Some of the D2 HBCU are more successful. Splitting the MEAC up, and bringing up the D2 HBCUs could help out better.

Many of these schools are barely making it, but let's add D1 football to cause more financial hardship!

(10-23-2015 07:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  These 3 seems to have the strongest fan support in football along with Grambling State and Tuskegee. Those 5 and Jackson State should be good schools to join the FBS ranks which they could be better than Eastern Michigan with fans showing up to the games. Tennessee State could be as well. Tennessee State is in a much better position because they are in the OVC for all sports, and they earn more money than any of the HBCU schools in the MEAC and SWAC.

(10-23-2015 07:30 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  The problem for Norfolk State is that the HBCU is a relic of the past that will eventually be relegated to the dust bins of history. The first victims will be the HBCUs located in the same towns as other state schools. Norfolk State will eventually be merged into ODU, Central State with Wright State, Savannah State with Armstrong Atlantic, UNCG and NC A&T. They will all go the way of UT Nashville and Tennessee State.