(09-08-2015 04:53 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  #REFLIVESMATTER

Total disregard for Civil and Sportsmanship Laws and Rules. Those two should never be allowed to get a college scholarship to reward Their outright arrogance and stupidity. They could have paralyzed that Ref with those vicious hits to His back. Someone else probably was also aware of what They were about to do. Hope the Fathers punish Them also.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3224376/Two-Texas-high-school-football-players-suspended-extremely-disturbing-video-shows-tackle-referee-diving-ground.html

(09-08-2015 11:13 AM)milerock Wrote:  These 2 should never play another down of football anywhere anytime...

(09-08-2015 04:13 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I've seen several on the College/Realignment board suggest season-long suspensions or even permanent banishment from high school athletics.

Others have even said it's a criminal offense. Per law, it's a felony if the court finds the "helmet" to be a weapon.

I agreed with the majority of the sentiment. These kids SHOULD be punished. They NEED to be punished.

But Greg Hardy* was suspended 15 games WITH PAY for 2014. He was then suspended an additional 4 games for 2015 (after a 10-gam suspension was reduced). I assume this 4-game suspension is without pay. This was for domestic abuse.

Adrian Peterson* was suspended (at least) 6 games without pay for beating his child (photos available) and after one of his children was beaten to death by a girlfriend's boyfriend a year or two earlier. He may have been suspended with pay for up to 9 games in 2014 (I can't seem to find clarification on this).

Ray Rice* appears to have lost his 2014 salary for beating his girlfriend/fiancee unconscious on an elevator (with video evidence).

WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, should these teenagers be punished as harshly as these grown men making millions of dollars, who are - whether they like it or not - role models for others? Should these children be punished MULTIPLE high school seasons when it appears these professional athletes were NOT? Why should these high school athletes be criminally prosecuted as adults for felonies when these professional athletes skated?

My opinion: Should these kids be punished? ABSO-F'ING-LUTELY. Should they go to jail? Maybe. Do I want them to go to jail? No. Because teenagers shouldn't be prosecuted, judged or sentenced more harshly than millionaire grown men.

And like it or not, things that happen during competition shouldn't be weighted as severely as things that happen OFF THE FIELD. Emotions are high and hormones get riled. That's not an excuse for inappropriate behavior, but it's definitely a reason for why on-playing area "infractions" shouldn't be treated as seriously as off-playing area "infractions".

Would I be alright with them being suspended for the remainder of the season? Yes. (I believe that's already happened, but not positive.) I'm just not in approval of a harsher punishment given the punishment of these NFL players. It

*It's a bit of a P.I.T.A. to find exact details on their suspensions and with/without pay confirmations. So these are what I could find from standard google searches. If this information is incorrect, please provide links and correct me.

(09-08-2015 08:38 PM)RedGrad Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 04:13 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  I've seen several on the College/Realignment board suggest season-long suspensions or even permanent banishment from high school athletics.

Others have even said it's a criminal offense. Per law, it's a felony if the court finds the "helmet" to be a weapon.

I agreed with the majority of the sentiment. These kids SHOULD be punished. They NEED to be punished.

But Greg Hardy* was suspended 15 games WITH PAY for 2014. He was then suspended an additional 4 games for 2015 (after a 10-gam suspension was reduced). I assume this 4-game suspension is without pay. This was for domestic abuse.

Adrian Peterson* was suspended (at least) 6 games without pay for beating his child (photos available) and after one of his children was beaten to death by a girlfriend's boyfriend a year or two earlier. He may have been suspended with pay for up to 9 games in 2014 (I can't seem to find clarification on this).

Ray Rice* appears to have lost his 2014 salary for beating his girlfriend/fiancee unconscious on an elevator (with video evidence).

WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, should these teenagers be punished as harshly as these grown men making millions of dollars, who are - whether they like it or not - role models for others? Should these children be punished MULTIPLE high school seasons when it appears these professional athletes were NOT? Why should these high school athletes be criminally prosecuted as adults for felonies when these professional athletes skated?

My opinion: Should these kids be punished? ABSO-F'ING-LUTELY. Should they go to jail? Maybe. Do I want them to go to jail? No. Because teenagers shouldn't be prosecuted, judged or sentenced more harshly than millionaire grown men.

And like it or not, things that happen during competition shouldn't be weighted as severely as things that happen OFF THE FIELD. Emotions are high and hormones get riled. That's not an excuse for inappropriate behavior, but it's definitely a reason for why on-playing area "infractions" shouldn't be treated as seriously as off-playing area "infractions".

Would I be alright with them being suspended for the remainder of the season? Yes. (I believe that's already happened, but not positive.) I'm just not in approval of a harsher punishment given the punishment of these NFL players. It

*It's a bit of a P.I.T.A. to find exact details on their suspensions and with/without pay confirmations. So these are what I could find from standard google searches. If this information is incorrect, please provide links and correct me.

Great piece but I think you've got it inside out on this one. It's because this assault took place on the field itself as a result of elements in the game that make this so heinous. What someone does off the field in their private life is punishable by law and of course should be acted on by the NFL or NCAA where necessary but this is entirely different. Such behavior if not given death penalty consequences threatens the game itself. This should be weighted with heavier consequences than behavior off the field by the games authorities because its occurrence was a direct result of the game itself. They should be declared ineligible to ever play high school athletics in TX ever again and the school should be forced to forfeit the game if they won.

(09-09-2015 01:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  They should be kicked off the football team and the D.A. should press criminal charges against them.

They likely won't get any jail time but what they did was a battery on that official. It was a criminal act.

Quote:Hey man you talkin' back to me? Take him out!
You gotta keep 'em separated
Hey man you disrespecting me? Take him out!
You gotta keep 'em separated
Hey don't pay no mind...
You're under 18 you won't be doing any time!

(09-09-2015 01:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  They should be kicked off the football team and the D.A. should press criminal charges against them.

They likely won't get any jail time but what they did was a battery on that official. It was a criminal act.

The motto of the young generation?

Quote:Hey man you talkin' back to me? Take him out!
You gotta keep 'em separated
Hey man you disrespecting me? Take him out!
You gotta keep 'em separated
Hey don't pay no mind...
You're under 18 you won't be doing any time!

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/offspring/comeoutandplay.html

(09-10-2015 11:32 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   They deserve to be suspend for the season and even made to do community service.. But how would giving them a criminal record for a heat of the moment Adrenalin rush make the world a better place?