(08-28-2015 09:25 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-preview-leap-year-teams-arkansas-tennessee-minnesota-cal-temple-southern-miss/


"This Year: Bowl game?

Southern Miss, on the other hand, has the most obvious line of demarcation: Before 2012, the Golden Eagles delivered 18 consecutive winning seasons and five C-USA championships, including a 12-2 triumph in 2011 that stands among the best seasons in school history. Since 2012, the Eagles have languished at the bottom of the sport by all conceivable measures, victims of an abrupt, unforeseen nosedive that still cannot be explained. Entering his third season, coach Todd Monken isn’t facing any ultimatums — the crater he inherited from his one-and-done predecessor, Ellis Johnson, is still emitting toxic fumes — but he isn’t waiting around for the homegrown talent to pay dividends, either.

When preseason camp kicked off earlier this month, Southern Miss’s depth chart featured a staggering 22 players who began their careers at other schools, at least half of whom have either cracked the starting lineup already or have a legitimate chance to do so. That number includes junior-college transfers4 as well as refugees from Michigan (RB Justice Hayes), Auburn (DE Ricky Parks and LB Anthony Swain), Oklahoma (DT Quincy Russell), Kansas (DT Andrew Bolton), Arkansas (OL Drew Peterson), Houston (WR Casey Martin), and TCU (QB Tyler Matthews) — in other words, just about any healthy, eligible body who can upgrade the talent level long enough to get Monken’s rebuilding project off the ground. “I don’t know how many [transfers] will start, but they’ll all play,” Monken said earlier this month. “Would be foolish if they didn’t play for us. To use a scholarship and not have them play, that’d be foolish.”

Again, Monken has some time if every short-term scholarship doesn’t come to full fruition. But given that six wins this fall would qualify as dramatic progress, and given a 2015 schedule that includes exceedingly winnable dates with Austin Peay, Texas State, North Texas, UT–San Antonio, Charlotte, UTEP, and Old Dominion, if it’s not right now, the outlook for two or three years from now isn’t going to look much better."

I am fond of So Miss and wish them best of success (except when playing Memphis, of course).

(08-28-2015 01:50 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Ellis Johnson was just part of the reason...

(08-28-2015 02:18 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I can agree with that, plus the firing of Bower started this although Fedora managed to hold it together with Bower recruits and some of his own....Johnson popped the bubble....

(08-28-2015 02:03 PM)SouthernMissSNu Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 01:50 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Ellis Johnson was just part of the reason...

Larry Fedora not recruiting well his last season before he left... you know because he probably had a feeling he was going to jump ship...

Ellis Johnson... and his lack of recruiting... and coaching hires... and coaching style...

Jeff Hammond... (people forget he lasted only one year as AD too)

Dust left from Martha Saunders... and the whole administration flops and shortcomings of the 2000s...

Basically just a perfect storm of debauchery and desolation that lead to a culmination of bad decisions, administration hiccups, and a frustrated fan base...

Nevertheless I like what Bill McGillis and Todd Monken (and Doc Sadler for that matter-- but that's a whole other story) have done to rebuild the athletics programs from the ground up. I know a lot of people are frustrated, but this year should have most of those frustrations relieved, especially if we get a bowl game close to home that the fan base can easily travel to.

(08-28-2015 06:42 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Some of you are delusional. Fedora had a phenomenal recruiting class coming together before he left. When he did, most of those great players switched commitments. Those recruits are now starting at places like Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, etc. He didn't "leave us out to dry." He left and Johnson didn't even try to hold on to them.

And please don't blame Hammond. He can hold some blame for being part of the hiring of Johnson, but let's not say this was his fault. He only lasted one year as AD for a reason, and it wasn't performance.

(08-28-2015 07:46 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 06:42 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Some of you are delusional. Fedora had a phenomenal recruiting class coming together before he left. When he did, most of those great players switched commitments. Those recruits are now starting at places like Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, etc. He didn't "leave us out to dry." He left and Johnson didn't even try to hold on to them.

And please don't blame Hammond. He can hold some blame for being part of the hiring of Johnson, but let's not say this was his fault. He only lasted one year as AD for a reason, and it wasn't performance.

He was on the committee that hired EJ. He let Tyndall commit major NCAA infractions right under his clueless nose. He got the athletic department sued over his treatment of employees. He accused a shadowy cabal of boosters and former administrators of corruption, ordered an audit to investigate said corruption, only for it to come up empty.

Yeah, his performance was outstanding.

(08-29-2015 03:55 AM)Shrack Wrote:  7 opponents rated 95th or worse with 5 of those games being at home. USM should at least go 5-7 this year.

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(08-28-2015 07:46 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 06:42 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Some of you are delusional. Fedora had a phenomenal recruiting class coming together before he left. When he did, most of those great players switched commitments. Those recruits are now starting at places like Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, etc. He didn't "leave us out to dry." He left and Johnson didn't even try to hold on to them.

And please don't blame Hammond. He can hold some blame for being part of the hiring of Johnson, but let's not say this was his fault. He only lasted one year as AD for a reason, and it wasn't performance.

He was on the committee that hired EJ. He let Tyndall commit major NCAA infractions right under his clueless nose. He got the athletic department sued over his treatment of employees. He accused a shadowy cabal of boosters and former administrators of corruption, ordered an audit to investigate said corruption, only for it to come up empty.

Yeah, his performance was outstanding.

(08-28-2015 10:19 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 07:46 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 06:42 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Some of you are delusional. Fedora had a phenomenal recruiting class coming together before he left. When he did, most of those great players switched commitments. Those recruits are now starting at places like Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, etc. He didn't "leave us out to dry." He left and Johnson didn't even try to hold on to them.

And please don't blame Hammond. He can hold some blame for being part of the hiring of Johnson, but let's not say this was his fault. He only lasted one year as AD for a reason, and it wasn't performance.

He was on the committee that hired EJ. He let Tyndall commit major NCAA infractions right under his clueless nose. He got the athletic department sued over his treatment of employees. He accused a shadowy cabal of boosters and former administrators of corruption, ordered an audit to investigate said corruption, only for it to come up empty.

Yeah, his performance was outstanding.

You know very little from what you say. I'll leave it at that.

(08-28-2015 10:19 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 07:46 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 06:42 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Some of you are delusional. Fedora had a phenomenal recruiting class coming together before he left. When he did, most of those great players switched commitments. Those recruits are now starting at places like Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, etc. He didn't "leave us out to dry." He left and Johnson didn't even try to hold on to them.

And please don't blame Hammond. He can hold some blame for being part of the hiring of Johnson, but let's not say this was his fault. He only lasted one year as AD for a reason, and it wasn't performance.

He was on the committee that hired EJ. He let Tyndall commit major NCAA infractions right under his clueless nose. He got the athletic department sued over his treatment of employees. He accused a shadowy cabal of boosters and former administrators of corruption, ordered an audit to investigate said corruption, only for it to come up empty.

Yeah, his performance was outstanding.

You know very little from what you say. I'll leave it at that.

(08-28-2015 09:25 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-preview-leap-year-teams-arkansas-tennessee-minnesota-cal-temple-southern-miss/

"This Year: Bowl game?

Southern Miss, on the other hand, has the most obvious line of demarcation: Before 2012, the Golden Eagles delivered 18 consecutive winning seasons and five C-USA championships, including a 12-2 triumph in 2011 that stands among the best seasons in school history. Since 2012, the Eagles have languished at the bottom of the sport by all conceivable measures, victims of an abrupt, unforeseen nosedive that still cannot be explained. Entering his third season, coach Todd Monken isn’t facing any ultimatums — the crater he inherited from his one-and-done predecessor, Ellis Johnson, is still emitting toxic fumes — but he isn’t waiting around for the homegrown talent to pay dividends, either.

When preseason camp kicked off earlier this month, Southern Miss’s depth chart featured a staggering 22 players who began their careers at other schools, at least half of whom have either cracked the starting lineup already or have a legitimate chance to do so. That number includes junior-college transfers4 as well as refugees from Michigan (RB Justice Hayes), Auburn (DE Ricky Parks and LB Anthony Swain), Oklahoma (DT Quincy Russell), Kansas (DT Andrew Bolton), Arkansas (OL Drew Peterson), Houston (WR Casey Martin), and TCU (QB Tyler Matthews) — in other words, just about any healthy, eligible body who can upgrade the talent level long enough to get Monken’s rebuilding project off the ground. “I don’t know how many [transfers] will start, but they’ll all play,” Monken said earlier this month. “Would be foolish if they didn’t play for us. To use a scholarship and not have them play, that’d be foolish.”

Again, Monken has some time if every short-term scholarship doesn’t come to full fruition. But given that six wins this fall would qualify as dramatic progress, and given a 2015 schedule that includes exceedingly winnable dates with Austin Peay, Texas State, North Texas, UT–San Antonio, Charlotte, UTEP, and Old Dominion, if it’s not right now, the outlook for two or three years from now isn’t going to look much better."

I am fond of So Miss and wish them best of success (except when playing Memphis, of course).

(08-28-2015 10:19 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 07:46 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2015 06:42 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Some of you are delusional. Fedora had a phenomenal recruiting class coming together before he left. When he did, most of those great players switched commitments. Those recruits are now starting at places like Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, etc. He didn't "leave us out to dry." He left and Johnson didn't even try to hold on to them.

And please don't blame Hammond. He can hold some blame for being part of the hiring of Johnson, but let's not say this was his fault. He only lasted one year as AD for a reason, and it wasn't performance.

He was on the committee that hired EJ. He let Tyndall commit major NCAA infractions right under his clueless nose. He got the athletic department sued over his treatment of employees. He accused a shadowy cabal of boosters and former administrators of corruption, ordered an audit to investigate said corruption, only for it to come up empty.

Yeah, his performance was outstanding.

You know very little from what you say. I'll leave it at that.