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Getting Students to Come and Stay - AeroCat - 08-26-2015 08:54 AM

Hey folks. Looks like this is a big issue across the country. I did some googling and found out that even powerhouses like Alabama are having student attendance issues. I really think that it is due to the short attention span of the digital generation. There were quotes in some of the articles about the game being too slow and catching the highlights later.

Also, all of the conference realignment has killed the rivalries in college football. They have harmed the brand. UC vs. UCF may be a good game, but there's no bad blood or history there.

How do you keep the "Whoa something shiny!" generation interested in a 3 hour football game?

How do you compete with the cheaper/better experience of watching the game on a big screen TV?

How do you build a sense of pride in the school so that the students will root on their team through the whole game?

I don't think adding wireless to the stadium will do it.

Quote:Empty Seats Now, Fewer Donors Later?
September 11, 2014
By
Jake New

Game day. For many college alumni, the phrase alone is enough to conjure autumnal memories of watching football while surrounded by cheering student sections, marching bands, and brisk fall air.

But an increasing number of students, researchers say, now see the experience a little differently. For them, attending a football game more likely means sitting outdoors for hours in chilly weather, with little or no access to cell phone reception and alcohol. Once the tailgate party has ended, why not just cheer on the home team from a bar down the street? There are probably some cheap game-day specials, and there may even be free wifi.

Student attendance at major college football games is declining across the country. By how much varies greatly at each institution, but a recent Wall Street Journal analysis of turnstile data at 50 public colleges with top football programs found that average student attendance is down more than 7 percent since 2009.

In 2013, the University of Georgia's designated student section was nearly 40 percent empty. The University of California at Berkeley has sold about 1,000 fewer student season tickets this season than last year -- a season that already saw a decline from the previous one. Since 2009, student attendance at the University of Florida has dropped 22 percent. Three-fourths of the University of Kansas' student tickets went unused last season.

The students who do still attend games tend to arrive later and leave earlier, said Richard Southall, director of the College Sports Research Institute, which can be an embarrassing headache for athletic programs.

"Fundamentally, students are part of the show and that's something that folks don't always recognize," Southall said. "If you watch a college sports telecast, where do the cameras go for in-crowd shots? The cameras are in the student section. If that section is not there, it's like having a movie without enough extras to walk in the background of the shots. I always joke to my students, 'You understand you're paying to be extras. You're just there for the show, so everyone else can keep consuming it.' "

As universities may sometimes build ticket prices into student fees or offer unsold tickets to alumni and other fans, overall sales have not dropped dramatically, Southall said. Football revenues at large programs still often hover between $50 and $80 million a year, according to the U.S. Department of Education, and even top $100 million at institutions like the University of Texas. But that could begin to change over the next decade or two.

Today's uninterested students, athletic directors worry, could easily become tomorrow's uninterested alumni.

"Current students are not that important [to ticket sales], per se," Dan Rascher, a sports management professor at the University of San Francisco, said. "But you're trying to turn those current students into former students who are still fans decades later. You want students, when they become alumni, to have that attachment and come back for the games, and that's what's concerning athletic departments."

A possible link between athletics -- particularly success in athletics -- and alumni giving has been debated for decades. Older studies are split about the issue, but more recent research argues that there is a connection, especially between football and donations to athletic programs rather than a university's general fund.

The culprits for the downward trend in student attendance are not difficult to identify, said Mark Nagel, a professor of sports and entertainment management at the University of South Carolina.

Tickets are getting more expensive, nonconference games are less evenly matched, and -- thanks to lucrative and far-reaching broadcast contracts -- it's never been easier to watch games from the comfort of just about anywhere else. Students can often watch their college's team play not just on television, but also on their computers, smart phones, and tablets.

"Students just have so many other choices now," Nagel said. "TVs are getting inexpensive. The quality is getting better and better. Students are thinking, 'Do I really want to go? Is it too hot? Too cold? Would I rather go watch the game somewhere more comfortable? Is it going to be a boring game?' "

The more difficult question to answer, Southall said, is what can colleges and universities do to slow or halt the decline.

"Students are showing that they're consumers like anyone else," he said. "As college sports have become more and more commercialized, they're having to compete with that home experience like the NFL and everybody else."

Some institutions are hoping that part of the solution lies in replicating aspects of watching the games on television. Last year, the Big Ten Conference announced that its colleges could now show an unlimited number of replays at any speed on stadium videoboards, mirroring the multiple, slow-motion replays commonly featured in game broadcasts.

Previously, stadiums were allowed to show just one replay at only 75 percent of the actual speed. “Our goal on game day is to blend the best parts of an in-stadium experience with the best parts of an at-home experience,” Jim Delany, the Big Ten’s commissioner, said at the time.

More commonly, universities are trying to attract student fans by adding more amenities to stadiums and transforming the game day experience into something that can’t be found at a bar or in someone’s living room.

“We’re seeing more and more incentives,” Nagel said. “And we’re also seeing a trend toward creating a larger entertainment experience. The game on the field is still the centerpiece, but there’s more fireworks, more giveaways, more promotions. That’s the wave of the present.”

More than half of Division I FBS institutions plan on spending more than $10 million on facility investments over the next year, according to a recent survey conducted by Ohio University’s Center for Sports Administration and stadium designer AECOM. The top three priorities for that spending -- enhancing food and beverage options, premium seating, and connectivity -- all focus on the experience of fans, rather than the players.

Earlier this year, the University of Nebraska at Lincoln approved a $12.3 million project for installing a better sound system and wireless internet in its stadium. The University of California at Berkeley is now offering freshman season tickets, usually available for a $99 fee, for free. And 21 college-owned stadiums now sell alcohol, according to a survey conducted by the Associated Press. That's double the number from five years ago.

"Even though it's important to look at the macro issue, everything about how to solve this is really local," Nagel said. "Numbers could be down at some stadiums, but certain schools could be up. It really is a situation where every school have their own micro issues that need to be dealt with.

"But they share the same concern: If students don't have that affinity for their team as young people, when they're 35 years old with a lot of expendable income, are they going to make the decisions their parents have as fans?"



RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - BcatMatt13 - 08-26-2015 11:16 AM

I'd offer cheaper beer with a student ID.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - Bearcat Otto - 08-26-2015 12:19 PM

(08-26-2015 11:16 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  I'd offer cheaper beer with a student ID.

That might get them to stay until the end of the third quarter.

And most won't be of age anyway unless they are a card carrying fake ID student.


Re: RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - subflea - 08-26-2015 01:36 PM

(08-26-2015 11:16 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  I'd offer cheaper beer with a student ID.

Yeah, that ain't happening.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - BearcatsUC - 08-26-2015 01:38 PM

Get in a better conference


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - Jchuges7 - 08-26-2015 01:45 PM

(08-26-2015 01:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  Get in a better conference

Student apathy happens everywhere and in much better conferences than the AAC. Sadly, coming out to a game is just part of a big night out and when kids get bored they move on to something else, very quickly I might add. Not sure if this is a fixable solution when games are blowouts but I'm sure most people stay if it's an important or close game.

Heck, I don't know the answer to this because when I was at UC I always stayed until the very end of the game. That was the main event of my night, if we went out afterwards it was just a bonus. But I realize that I am unlike most people in these regards.


Getting Students to Come and Stay - BearcatnKY - 08-26-2015 01:46 PM

Raffle off a car/tuition ...get entries for staying till the end of each game.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - cmhcat - 08-26-2015 01:59 PM

(08-26-2015 12:19 PM)Bearcat Otto Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 11:16 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  I'd offer cheaper beer with a student ID.

That might get them to stay until the end of the third quarter.

And most won't be of age anyway unless they are a card carrying fake ID student.

I remember as a student, on at least one occasion, rolling the remainder of a keg from our tailgate in the former big parking lot, up the driveway and over to one of the west side entrances...and down the steps to what was then the student section. We re-tapped the keg inside the stadium and were generous to all nearby. I guess times have changed a little?


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - EcFlay - 08-26-2015 02:01 PM

Guys guys guys...these are college students we are talking about here.

All you have to do is offer a free t-shirt as they go through the gate after the clock hits zero. College students will do anything for a free t-shirt (I would know 04-rock)


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - Bearcatbdub - 08-26-2015 02:03 PM

**** em. More seats for me and my buddies.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - SuperFlyBCat - 08-26-2015 02:04 PM

Close game they stay longer, blowout game they leave earlier.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - CliftonAve - 08-26-2015 02:04 PM

I think the best way to keep butts in the seat until the end of the game is to offer some time of rewards/prizes for sticking around. I remember reading a year ago the New York Jets were giving people reward cards at the end of the game that fans could use towards concessions, merchandise, etc. for the next game.

On a similar note, perhaps UC could do some type of drawing where fans win a prize. Announce the winner mid-way through the 4th quarter and say the winner has to be present.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - BearcatsUC - 08-26-2015 02:11 PM

(08-26-2015 01:45 PM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  Get in a better conference

Student apathy happens everywhere and in much better conferences than the AAC. Sadly, coming out to a game is just part of a big night out and when kids get bored they move on to something else, very quickly I might add. Not sure if this is a fixable solution when games are blowouts but I'm sure most people stay if it's an important or close game.

Heck, I don't know the answer to this because when I was at UC I always stayed until the very end of the game. That was the main event of my night, if we went out afterwards it was just a bonus. But I realize that I am unlike most people in these regards.

I guess I was thinking that if we're beating Texas or Oklahoma, everyone would be whooping it up until the end - different kind of scene than if we are beating up on Memphis in the 4th quarter.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - rath v2.0 - 08-26-2015 02:24 PM

Not sure that getting them to stay until the end is the goal but one thing that Alabama does that I think is sorta cool is the fraternities get blocks in the student sections.. priority based on house GPA ..if a house fails to stick around it is pointed out....they make it a house event to stay till the end.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - SuperFlyBCat - 08-26-2015 02:53 PM

(08-26-2015 02:11 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:45 PM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  Get in a better conference

Student apathy happens everywhere and in much better conferences than the AAC. Sadly, coming out to a game is just part of a big night out and when kids get bored they move on to something else, very quickly I might add. Not sure if this is a fixable solution when games are blowouts but I'm sure most people stay if it's an important or close game.

Heck, I don't know the answer to this because when I was at UC I always stayed until the very end of the game. That was the main event of my night, if we went out afterwards it was just a bonus. But I realize that I am unlike most people in these regards.

I guess I was thinking that if we're beating Texas or Oklahoma, everyone would be whooping it up until the end - different kind of scene than if we are beating up on Memphis in the 4th quarter.

If it is an important game, and close kids will stick around.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - BearcatsUC - 08-26-2015 03:11 PM

(08-26-2015 02:53 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 02:11 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:45 PM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  Get in a better conference

Student apathy happens everywhere and in much better conferences than the AAC. Sadly, coming out to a game is just part of a big night out and when kids get bored they move on to something else, very quickly I might add. Not sure if this is a fixable solution when games are blowouts but I'm sure most people stay if it's an important or close game.

Heck, I don't know the answer to this because when I was at UC I always stayed until the very end of the game. That was the main event of my night, if we went out afterwards it was just a bonus. But I realize that I am unlike most people in these regards.

I guess I was thinking that if we're beating Texas or Oklahoma, everyone would be whooping it up until the end - different kind of scene than if we are beating up on Memphis in the 4th quarter.

If it is an important game, and close kids will stick around.

Of course. And are you more willing to sit in the cold to watch OK State or Tulsa? This is a rhetorical question.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - gocats30 - 08-26-2015 03:13 PM

Student tickets have sold out for Alabama A&M. They are selling overflow tickets for $10. That should help with attendance.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - SuperFlyBCat - 08-26-2015 03:52 PM

(08-26-2015 03:11 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 02:53 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 02:11 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:45 PM)Jchuges7 Wrote:  
(08-26-2015 01:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  Get in a better conference

Student apathy happens everywhere and in much better conferences than the AAC. Sadly, coming out to a game is just part of a big night out and when kids get bored they move on to something else, very quickly I might add. Not sure if this is a fixable solution when games are blowouts but I'm sure most people stay if it's an important or close game.

Heck, I don't know the answer to this because when I was at UC I always stayed until the very end of the game. That was the main event of my night, if we went out afterwards it was just a bonus. But I realize that I am unlike most people in these regards.

I guess I was thinking that if we're beating Texas or Oklahoma, everyone would be whooping it up until the end - different kind of scene than if we are beating up on Memphis in the 4th quarter.

If it is an important game, and close kids will stick around.

Of course. And are you more willing to sit in the cold to watch OK State or Tulsa? This is a rhetorical question.

Depends on the score. I dislike cold games. But this more about students leaving early when the team is winning. Been to over 90% of UC home games since the east side renovation in 92', regardless of the opponent.


RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - Cataclysmo - 08-26-2015 04:34 PM

(08-26-2015 02:24 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Not sure that getting them to stay until the end is the goal but one thing that Alabama does that I think is sorta cool is the fraternities get blocks in the student sections.. priority based on house GPA ..if a house fails to stick around it is pointed out....they make it a house event to stay till the end.
The fraternity life at UC is nearly big enough for that strategy to be effective.

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RE: Getting Students to Come and Stay - CincyCatz1224 - 08-26-2015 08:08 PM

There is very little you can do to incentivize a student to stay for an entire football game if they do not want to be there. While I am inclined to stay until the end of almost every game, most students simply are not. Three things will get students to games: winning teams, quality opponents, and primetime matchups. While every school has their diehard sports fans, you need those 3 things to get the students that are casual fans and see it as the "cool thing to do." Unfortunately, 2 of those things are determined mostly by conference affiliation. I love the fraternity idea though.