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Attitudes towards socialism are changing - Max Power - 08-21-2015 11:16 AM

In response to a Gallup poll in June, 47 percent of surveyors said they would vote for a socialist if their party nominated one, while 50 percent said they would not. Only three years ago, the Pew Research survey found that 31 percent of Americans reacted positively to the word “socialism,” while 60 percent reacted negatively.

And Sanders’ call to go “beyond establishment politics” may appeal to one group whose political views tend to fall in a grey area: Millennials.

The 2011 Pew Research survey showed that among 18-to-29-year olds, 49 percent had a positive view of socialism, while 47 percent had a positive view of capitalism.

Younger Americans aren’t as set on their political views as their parents or grandparents because socialism means different things to different generations, Michelle Diggles, a senior political analyst at liberal think tank Third Way, told The International Business Times.

"For older people, socialism is associated with Communism and the Soviet Union and the Cold War," she said.

"But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists ... The connotations associated with the word 'socialism' just don't exist with millennials."

Though Sanders’ views on several policy issues, such as climate change, campaign finance reform and the regulation of Wall Street, align with those of many Americans, time will tell whether the rest of the country is ready for a socialist president.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0819/A-factor-behind-Bernie-Sanders-appeal-Changing-attitudes-toward-socialism


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - stinkfist - 08-21-2015 11:18 AM

no fk'n shite....

that's what happens when you absorb people into a system with no incentive....


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - Lord Stanley - 08-21-2015 11:22 AM

I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - MemphisTiger15 - 08-21-2015 11:24 AM

(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

you couldn't have said it any better


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - stinkfist - 08-21-2015 11:33 AM

(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

that's what many people fail to understand.....our predecessors already built it.....

we are in support mode now, and everybody thinks they deserve a slice by sitting on their arse....


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - QuestionSocratic - 08-21-2015 11:34 AM

This says more about the ignorance of some Americans and their degeneracy into a state of permanent dependency.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - stinkfist - 08-21-2015 11:35 AM

(08-21-2015 11:34 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  This says more about the laziness and lack of ethics of some Americans and their degeneracy into a state of permanent dependency.

daily fify....


Attitudes towards socialism are changing - South Carolina Duke - 08-21-2015 11:38 AM

(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

Same 22 year old screws up the order for said shake and cannot count back/ make change correctly.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - JDTulane - 08-21-2015 11:38 AM

(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

I'm fairly certain the 22 year old wants $15 so they can survive in today's world.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - blunderbuss - 08-21-2015 11:41 AM

(08-21-2015 11:38 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

I'm fairly certain the 22 year old wants $15 so they can survive in today's world.

Then the 22 year old should be able to do more than run a milkshake machine.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - vandiver49 - 08-21-2015 11:42 AM

(08-21-2015 11:16 AM)Max Power Wrote:  In response to a Gallup poll in June, 47 percent of surveyors said they would vote for a socialist if their party nominated one, while 50 percent said they would not. Only three years ago, the Pew Research survey found that 31 percent of Americans reacted positively to the word “socialism,” while 60 percent reacted negatively.

And Sanders’ call to go “beyond establishment politics” may appeal to one group whose political views tend to fall in a grey area: Millennials.

The 2011 Pew Research survey showed that among 18-to-29-year olds, 49 percent had a positive view of socialism, while 47 percent had a positive view of capitalism.

Younger Americans aren’t as set on their political views as their parents or grandparents because socialism means different things to different generations, Michelle Diggles, a senior political analyst at liberal think tank Third Way, told The International Business Times.

"For older people, socialism is associated with Communism and the Soviet Union and the Cold War," she said.

"But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists ... The connotations associated with the word 'socialism' just don't exist with millennials."

Though Sanders’ views on several policy issues, such as climate change, campaign finance reform and the regulation of Wall Street, align with those of many Americans, time will tell whether the rest of the country is ready for a socialist president.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0819/A-factor-behind-Bernie-Sanders-appeal-Changing-attitudes-toward-socialism

And you think this a good because?


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - VA49er - 08-21-2015 11:50 AM

(08-21-2015 11:38 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

I'm fairly certain the 22 year old wants $15 so they can survive in today's world.

Then that 22 year should help his/her own selves and not demand it be given to them.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - QuestionSocratic - 08-21-2015 11:50 AM

(08-21-2015 11:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(08-21-2015 11:34 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  This says more about the laziness and lack of ethics of some Americans and their degeneracy into a state of permanent dependency.

daily fify....

Well, that too.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - Lord Stanley - 08-21-2015 11:59 AM

Two inconclusive wars, a financial crisis, recession and weak recovery, government failure from Katrina to the TSA to Obamacare to the Federal background check system to unsecured OPM data, an unelected and unaccountable managerial bureaucracy that targets grassroots organizations, a Supreme Court and President that makes law through diktat, race riots, Ebola, judicial overreach, and a militarized police.

And people want MORE government?


Attitudes towards socialism are changing - South Carolina Duke - 08-21-2015 12:04 PM

(08-21-2015 11:38 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(08-21-2015 11:22 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I don't doubt it.

A few generations ago we were a people who built the greatest nation on earth out of a howling wilderness. Back in the day the officers, the pilots and navigators and bombardiers who flew planes in WWII averaged 22 years old.

Now a 22 year old wants $15 an hour to run a milkshake machine.

I'm fairly certain the 22 year old wants $15 so they can survive in today's world.

People in Hell want ice water, doesn't mean they get it!


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - maximus - 08-21-2015 12:09 PM

(08-21-2015 11:16 AM)Max Power Wrote:  In response to a Gallup poll in June, 47 percent of surveyors said they would vote for a socialist if their party nominated one, while 50 percent said they would not. Only three years ago, the Pew Research survey found that 31 percent of Americans reacted positively to the word “socialism,” while 60 percent reacted negatively.

And Sanders’ call to go “beyond establishment politics” may appeal to one group whose political views tend to fall in a grey area: Millennials.

The 2011 Pew Research survey showed that among 18-to-29-year olds, 49 percent had a positive view of socialism, while 47 percent had a positive view of capitalism.

Younger Americans aren’t as set on their political views as their parents or grandparents because socialism means different things to different generations, Michelle Diggles, a senior political analyst at liberal think tank Third Way, told The International Business Times.

"For older people, socialism is associated with Communism and the Soviet Union and the Cold War," she said.

"But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists ... The connotations associated with the word 'socialism' just don't exist with millennials."

Though Sanders’ views on several policy issues, such as climate change, campaign finance reform and the regulation of Wall Street, align with those of many Americans, time will tell whether the rest of the country is ready for a socialist president.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0819/A-factor-behind-Bernie-Sanders-appeal-Changing-attitudes-toward-socialism
And you agree because....why


Attitudes towards socialism are changing - South Carolina Duke - 08-21-2015 12:17 PM

"Socialism means different meaning to different generations or people". What is that?? Socialism is Socialism no matter how you slice it. It doesn't work very well. Period !

What's ruining this nation is all the PC bullshite and moral relativism !! One person's "truth " is different than another person's felt truth ? News flash, there is only one truth , therefore someone is wrong!


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - Bull_In_Exile - 08-21-2015 12:19 PM

(08-21-2015 11:16 AM)Max Power Wrote:  "But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists ... The connotations associated with the word 'socialism' just don't exist with millennials."

IOW the youngsters are ignorant of socialism's natural evolution into other forms of Marxism so they think it's a-ok.


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - TheDancinMonarch - 08-21-2015 12:30 PM

(08-21-2015 11:59 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Two inconclusive wars, a financial crisis, recession and weak recovery, government failure from Katrina to the TSA to Obamacare to the Federal background check system to unsecured OPM data, an unelected and unaccountable managerial bureaucracy that targets grassroots organizations, a Supreme Court and President that makes law through diktat, race riots, Ebola, judicial overreach, and a militarized police.

And people want MORE government?

Right! Government has failed because we don't have enough of it. Lord help us!


RE: Attitudes towards socialism are changing - Fitbud - 08-21-2015 01:07 PM

I wonder if the republican strategy to block everything Obama does over the passed few years has contributed to this.