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Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - Hokie4Skins - 08-20-2015 12:11 PM
FWAA"s 75th anniversary All American team 1st, 2nd and 3rd string Here's the list
OFFENSE
POS FIRST TEAM
QB Roger Staubach, Navy
RB Archie Griffin, Ohio State Herschel Walker, Georgia
WR Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Jerry Rice, Mississippi Valley State
TE Keith Jackson, Oklahoma
OL John Hannah, Alabama Orlando Pace, Ohio State Will Shields, Nebraska Ron Yary, USC
C Dave Rimington, Nebraska
DEFENSE
POS FIRST TEAM
DT Lee Roy Selmon, Oklahoma Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
DE Leon Hart, Notre Dame Ted Hendricks, Miami (Fla.)
LB Tommy Nobis, Texas Mike Singletary, Baylor
Derrick Thomas, Alabama
DB Ronnie Lott, USC Deion Sanders, Florida State Jack Tatum, Ohio State Charles Woodson, Michigan
SPECIALISTS
POS FIRST TEAM
P Ray Guy, Southern Miss
K Kevin Butler, Georgia
RS johnny Rodgers, Nebraska
2nd team
QB Tim Tebow, Florida
RB Tony Dorsett, Pittsburgh
RB Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State
WR Fred Biletnikoff, Florida State, Randy Moss, Marshall
TE Mike Ditka, Pittsburgh
OL Bill Fralic, Pittsburgh John Hicks, Ohio State
Calvin Jones, Iowa Jonathan Ogden, UCLA
C Chuck Bednarik, Penn
DEFENSE 2nd team
DT: Merlin Olsen, Utah State Randy White, Maryland
DE: Hugh Green, Pittsburgh Bruce Smith, Virginia Tech
LB: Brian Bosworth, Oklahoma Dick Butkus, Illinois Luke Kuechly, Boston College
DB: Champ Bailey, Georgia Kenny Easley, UCLA Jerry Gray, Texas Ed Reed, Miami (Fla.)
SPECIAL TEAMS 2nd team
P Russell Erxleben, Texas
K Mason Crosby, Colorado
RS Raghib Ismail, Notre Dame
3rd Team offense
QB Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB Bo Jackson, Auburn Doak Walker, SMU
WR Anthony Carter, Michigan Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
TE Gordon Hudson, BYU
OL Barrett Jones, Alabama Willie Roaf, Louisiana Tech Jerry Sisemore, Texas Dean Steinkuhler, Nebraska
C Jim Ritcher, N.C. State
3rd Team Defense
DT Steve Emtman, Washington Reggie White, Tennessee
DE Bubba Smith, Michigan State Jack Youngblood, Florida
LB Jack Ham, Penn State Lee Roy Jordan, Alabama
Chris Spielman, Ohio State
DB Dré Bly, North Carolina Dave Brown, Michigan Troy Polamalu, USC Roy Williams, Oklahoma
Special Teams 3rd team
P Rohn Stark, Florida State
K Tony Franklin, Texas A&M
RS Derek Abney, Kentucky
Any objections? Noticeable omissions? Do you like the teams they picked?
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - bullet - 08-20-2015 06:20 PM
(08-20-2015 12:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote: FWAA"s 75th anniversary All American team 1st, 2nd and 3rd string Here's the list
OFFENSE
POS FIRST TEAM
QB Roger Staubach, Navy
RB Archie Griffin, Ohio State Herschel Walker, Georgia
WR Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Jerry Rice, Mississippi Valley State
TE Keith Jackson, Oklahoma
OL John Hannah, Alabama Orlando Pace, Ohio State Will Shields, Nebraska Ron Yary, USC
C Dave Rimington, Nebraska
DEFENSE
POS FIRST TEAM
DT Lee Roy Selmon, Oklahoma Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
DE Leon Hart, Notre Dame Ted Hendricks, Miami (Fla.)
LB Tommy Nobis, Texas Mike Singletary, Baylor
Derrick Thomas, Alabama
DB Ronnie Lott, USC Deion Sanders, Florida State Jack Tatum, Ohio State Charles Woodson, Michigan
SPECIALISTS
POS FIRST TEAM
P Ray Guy, Southern Miss
K Kevin Butler, Georgia
RS johnny Rodgers, Nebraska
2nd team
QB Tim Tebow, Florida
RB Tony Dorsett, Pittsburgh
RB Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State
WR Fred Biletnikoff, Florida State, Randy Moss, Marshall
TE Mike Ditka, Pittsburgh
OL Bill Fralic, Pittsburgh John Hicks, Ohio State
Calvin Jones, Iowa Jonathan Ogden, UCLA
C Chuck Bednarik, Penn
DEFENSE 2nd team
DT: Merlin Olsen, Utah State Randy White, Maryland
DE: Hugh Green, Pittsburgh Bruce Smith, Virginia Tech
LB: Brian Bosworth, Oklahoma Dick Butkus, Illinois Luke Kuechly, Boston College
DB: Champ Bailey, Georgia Kenny Easley, UCLA Jerry Gray, Texas Ed Reed, Miami (Fla.)
SPECIAL TEAMS 2nd team
P Russell Erxleben, Texas
K Mason Crosby, Colorado
RS Raghib Ismail, Notre Dame
3rd Team offense
QB Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB Bo Jackson, Auburn Doak Walker, SMU
WR Anthony Carter, Michigan Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
TE Gordon Hudson, BYU
OL Barrett Jones, Alabama Willie Roaf, Louisiana Tech Jerry Sisemore, Texas Dean Steinkuhler, Nebraska
C Jim Ritcher, N.C. State
3rd Team Defense
DT Steve Emtman, Washington Reggie White, Tennessee
DE Bubba Smith, Michigan State Jack Youngblood, Florida
LB Jack Ham, Penn State Lee Roy Jordan, Alabama
Chris Spielman, Ohio State
DB Dré Bly, North Carolina Dave Brown, Michigan Troy Polamalu, USC Roy Williams, Oklahoma
Special Teams 3rd team
P Rohn Stark, Florida State
K Tony Franklin, Texas A&M
RS Derek Abney, Kentucky
Any objections? Noticeable omissions? Do you like the teams they picked?
Tebow is a joke.
Barry Sanders is the best college running back ever. Archie didn't hold a candle to him. They should be switched.
Lots of candidates to replace Tebow. Vince Young if you want a similar type QB. If you want a passer, you can just take a pick of USC, Miami or BYU QBs.
Other than that, it looks pretty good.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - bullet - 08-20-2015 06:24 PM
Archie is in there because he won two Heismans. But realistically, I would take Bo Jackson, Earl Campbell, Ricky Williams, OJ Simpson and several others over Archie. But I guess two Heismans is worth something.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - goofus - 08-20-2015 08:01 PM
I feel like they should have found a spot for Nile Kinnick, the Heisman trophy winner in 1939, possibly as DB, he still shares the all time Iowa record for career interception. or possibly as a return specialist, for years, he held many records for punt returns at Iowa. He was just one of those guys who was good at everything.
Sports Illustrated chose Kinnick as a starting defensive cornerback on its all-20th century college football team. Deion Sanders was the other starting cornerback. The reserve cornerbacks were Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, Jim Thorpe, and John Lattner.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - goofus - 08-20-2015 08:11 PM
wait, I just read FWAA was founded in 1941, and selected their first all american team in 1944.
So why are they picking a 75th anniversary team in 2015?
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - Dr. Isaly von Yinzer - 08-20-2015 08:51 PM
Five Pitt Panthers on that list. I'm a little shocked/disappointed that Hugh Green is not on the first team. I'm not remotely surprised that Fitzgerald is on the first team. He was an AWESOME collegian!
Larry Fitz was the first player I ever saw where a fade route to the corner into double coverage was a higher percentage play than either a QB sneak or RB dive from the half yard-line. That was surreal but he was completely unstoppable.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - georgia_tech_swagger - 08-20-2015 09:32 PM
Calvin Johnson third team is a joke. Dude was considered for the Heisman catching passes from Reggie Ball. Enough said.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - polkhigh - 08-21-2015 12:37 AM
Randy Moss was insane to watch in college. He left after his sophomore year but that class at Marshall went out as the most winning class in history. 50-4 in four seasons.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - DavidSt - 08-21-2015 05:50 AM
Some of the best QBs, which some where underrated, that is much better than Stabach and Tebow.
Ty Dettmer, BYU
Doug Flutie, Boston College
Kellen Moore, Boise State
Jarrod Zabranski, Boise State
Colt Brennan, Hawaii
Bucky Richardson, Houston
David Carr, Fresno State
Case Kennum, Houston
Derrick Carr, Fresno State
Chandler Harnasch, Northern Illinois
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami Ohio
Collin Kap, Nevada
Tyler Hienicke, Old Dominion (won the FCS version of the Heisman)
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - SuperFlyBCat - 08-21-2015 06:39 AM
(08-21-2015 05:50 AM)DavidSt Wrote: Some of the best QBs, which some where underrated, that is much better than Stabach and Tebow.
Ty Dettmer, BYU
Doug Flutie, Boston College
Kellen Moore, Boise State
Jarrod Zabranski, Boise State
Colt Brennan, Hawaii
Bucky Richardson, Houston
David Carr, Fresno State
Case Kennum, Houston
Derrick Carr, Fresno State
Chandler Harnasch, Northern Illinois
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami Ohio
Collin Kap, Nevada
Tyler Hienicke, Old Dominion (won the FCS version of the Heisman)
much better than, no. If you are purely a stats guy there are tons of qb's to put on the list.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - SuperFlyBCat - 08-21-2015 06:40 AM
Rod Woodson where are you.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - swampbear - 08-21-2015 08:19 AM
Tommy Casanova, CB and return specialist for LSU in the early 1970's......one of the greatest all around athletes/Football players I have ever seen. Archie Manning, QB, Ole Miss in today's modern Offenses would have blown away records. As a College QB he was as good as anyone.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - bullet - 08-21-2015 08:44 AM
(08-21-2015 12:37 AM)polkhigh Wrote: Randy Moss was insane to watch in college. He left after his sophomore year but that class at Marshall went out as the most winning class in history. 50-4 in four seasons.
He made it look so easy.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - ken d - 08-21-2015 09:17 AM
(08-21-2015 06:39 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:(08-21-2015 05:50 AM)DavidSt Wrote: Some of the best QBs, which some where underrated, that is much better than Stabach and Tebow.
Ty Dettmer, BYU
Doug Flutie, Boston College
Kellen Moore, Boise State
Jarrod Zabranski, Boise State
Colt Brennan, Hawaii
Bucky Richardson, Houston
David Carr, Fresno State
Case Kennum, Houston
Derrick Carr, Fresno State
Chandler Harnasch, Northern Illinois
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami Ohio
Collin Kap, Nevada
Tyler Hienicke, Old Dominion (won the FCS version of the Heisman)
much better than, no. If you are purely a stats guy there are tons of qb's to put on the list.
In case you hadn't noticed, the only kind of guy that David is is "G5" guy. Doug Flutie is only on that list as a token.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - ken d - 08-21-2015 09:19 AM
It is strange, IMO, that they picked three QB's who probably nobody would have thought to mention if they had been left off the list entirely. Not sure what they were thinking (or smoking).
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - Frog in the Kitchen Sink - 08-21-2015 09:24 AM
Hard with these sorts of lists separating out NFL fame and production from just college.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - BewareThePhog - 08-21-2015 09:29 AM
(08-21-2015 09:24 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote: Hard with these sorts of lists separating out NFL fame and production from just college.Good point. It would also be interesting to see the methodology for selection, as sometimes too much vote-splitting among "more deserving" candidates can result in a "less deserving" candidate making a list simply because he has a hard-core fan base.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - ken d - 08-21-2015 11:27 AM
(08-21-2015 09:29 AM)BewareThePhog Wrote:(08-21-2015 09:24 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote: Hard with these sorts of lists separating out NFL fame and production from just college.Good point. It would also be interesting to see the methodology for selection, as sometimes too much vote-splitting among "more deserving" candidates can result in a "less deserving" candidate making a list simply because he has a hard-core fan base.
One of their criteria is that you had to have been on an FWAA All-America team. Interestingly, when the FWAA name an all-star team from 1969-1993, John Elway was their QB, but he doesn't make the top 3 here.
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - indianasniff - 08-21-2015 11:30 AM
(08-21-2015 05:50 AM)DavidSt Wrote: Some of the best QBs, which some where underrated, that is much better than Stabach and Tebow.
Ty Dettmer, BYU
Doug Flutie, Boston College
Kellen Moore, Boise State
Jarrod Zabranski, Boise State
Colt Brennan, Hawaii
Bucky Richardson, Houston
David Carr, Fresno State
Case Kennum, Houston
Derrick Carr, Fresno State
Chandler Harnasch, Northern Illinois
Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami Ohio
Collin Kap, Nevada
Tyler Hienicke, Old Dominion (won the FCS version of the Heisman)
Chuck Ealey out of Toledo. Never lost. Record only broken because of the 12 game schedule. Travesty he is not in the College Football Hall of Fame
RE: Football Writers Association of America 75th Anniversary All American team - BIgCatonProwl - 08-21-2015 12:13 PM
(08-20-2015 12:11 PM)Hokie4Skins Wrote: FWAA"s 75th anniversary All American team 1st, 2nd and 3rd string Here's the listSome of these folks IMO were inserted on the team based on their NFL performance not the CFB performance. They may well have been great players in CFB but not the best in CFB at the time IMO.
OFFENSE
POS FIRST TEAM
QB Roger Staubach, Navy
RB Archie Griffin, Ohio State Herschel Walker, Georgia
WR Larry Fitzgerald, Pittsburgh Jerry Rice, Mississippi Valley State
TE Keith Jackson, Oklahoma
OL John Hannah, Alabama Orlando Pace, Ohio State Will Shields, Nebraska Ron Yary, USC
C Dave Rimington, Nebraska
DEFENSE
POS FIRST TEAM
DT Lee Roy Selmon, Oklahoma Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
DE Leon Hart, Notre Dame Ted Hendricks, Miami (Fla.)
LB Tommy Nobis, Texas Mike Singletary, Baylor
Derrick Thomas, Alabama
DB Ronnie Lott, USC Deion Sanders, Florida State Jack Tatum, Ohio State Charles Woodson, Michigan
SPECIALISTS
POS FIRST TEAM
P Ray Guy, Southern Miss
K Kevin Butler, Georgia
RS johnny Rodgers, Nebraska
2nd team
QB Tim Tebow, Florida
RB Tony Dorsett, Pittsburgh
RB Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State
WR Fred Biletnikoff, Florida State, Randy Moss, Marshall
TE Mike Ditka, Pittsburgh
OL Bill Fralic, Pittsburgh John Hicks, Ohio State
Calvin Jones, Iowa Jonathan Ogden, UCLA
C Chuck Bednarik, Penn
DEFENSE 2nd team
DT: Merlin Olsen, Utah State Randy White, Maryland
DE: Hugh Green, Pittsburgh Bruce Smith, Virginia Tech
LB: Brian Bosworth, Oklahoma Dick Butkus, Illinois Luke Kuechly, Boston College
DB: Champ Bailey, Georgia Kenny Easley, UCLA Jerry Gray, Texas Ed Reed, Miami (Fla.)
SPECIAL TEAMS 2nd team
P Russell Erxleben, Texas
K Mason Crosby, Colorado
RS Raghib Ismail, Notre Dame
3rd Team offense
QB Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB Bo Jackson, Auburn Doak Walker, SMU
WR Anthony Carter, Michigan Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
TE Gordon Hudson, BYU
OL Barrett Jones, Alabama Willie Roaf, Louisiana Tech Jerry Sisemore, Texas Dean Steinkuhler, Nebraska
C Jim Ritcher, N.C. State
3rd Team Defense
DT Steve Emtman, Washington Reggie White, Tennessee
DE Bubba Smith, Michigan State Jack Youngblood, Florida
LB Jack Ham, Penn State Lee Roy Jordan, Alabama
Chris Spielman, Ohio State
DB Dré Bly, North Carolina Dave Brown, Michigan Troy Polamalu, USC Roy Williams, Oklahoma
Special Teams 3rd team
P Rohn Stark, Florida State
K Tony Franklin, Texas A&M
RS Derek Abney, Kentucky
Any objections? Noticeable omissions? Do you like the teams they picked?