(08-13-2015 09:37 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-11-2015 11:32 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He didn't job anyone. He did the same thing anyone on this board does when they look for a better job. If you recall, the big clusterfuq in Boulder was the AD who turned it into a botched media circus show and tell...oh...yeah, he's our AD now. Never mind...

Fans sound silly when they cry about coaches leaving. No coach switches jobs without pissing fans off. Can anyone really argue Dantonio, Kelly and Jones did not make the right move? Every fan base does it and it all sounds like it is read from the same script. In the moment it makes sense since the emotions are so strong and fresh...but years later? It's like some are jilted ex girlfriends still.

Speaking of BK, looks like he still thinks about us. Check out the helmets in his basement.

It is interesting that the helmet happens to be the cursed white one. You know the one introduced before the game he ditched, the Sugar Bowl.

(08-13-2015 11:36 AM)BearcatnKY Wrote:  Those were the only two he could grab as he was running out of the building.

(08-13-2015 09:45 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 09:37 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-11-2015 11:32 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He didn't job anyone. He did the same thing anyone on this board does when they look for a better job. If you recall, the big clusterfuq in Boulder was the AD who turned it into a botched media circus show and tell...oh...yeah, he's our AD now. Never mind...

Fans sound silly when they cry about coaches leaving. No coach switches jobs without pissing fans off. Can anyone really argue Dantonio, Kelly and Jones did not make the right move? Every fan base does it and it all sounds like it is read from the same script. In the moment it makes sense since the emotions are so strong and fresh...but years later? It's like some are jilted ex girlfriends still.

Speaking of BK, looks like he still thinks about us. Check out the helmets in his basement.

It is interesting that the helmet happens to be the cursed white one. You know the one introduced before the game he ditched, the Sugar Bowl.

If you look carefully the black one is right next to it.

(08-13-2015 12:32 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 09:45 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 09:37 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-11-2015 11:32 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He didn't job anyone. He did the same thing anyone on this board does when they look for a better job. If you recall, the big clusterfuq in Boulder was the AD who turned it into a botched media circus show and tell...oh...yeah, he's our AD now. Never mind...

Fans sound silly when they cry about coaches leaving. No coach switches jobs without pissing fans off. Can anyone really argue Dantonio, Kelly and Jones did not make the right move? Every fan base does it and it all sounds like it is read from the same script. In the moment it makes sense since the emotions are so strong and fresh...but years later? It's like some are jilted ex girlfriends still.

Speaking of BK, looks like he still thinks about us. Check out the helmets in his basement.

It is interesting that the helmet happens to be the cursed white one. You know the one introduced before the game he ditched, the Sugar Bowl.

If you look carefully the black one is right next to it.

In all fairness, I have given BK a pass on his end of 2009 exploits. Maybe it is the years gone by or temperament through age, but he is not my most hated coach of the three. The order goes: 1. Dantonio 2. BK 3. Butch. Dantonio left and did not coach the bowl game. If memory serves me right, he required all coaches to follow him to MSU or they would be fired. He showed no loyalty to UC. BK stepped up coached and won the bowl game. BK also left, but I think it was a struggle for him. He left some coaches to work the bowl game. I never got the feeling that he used us to the greatest extent and quickly moved on. Lastly, I have no problem with Butch. The interview process did not sit well, however that is the nature of the beast. Someone also mentioned that he keeps UC gear in his Tenn office. I think that means something.

(08-13-2015 12:32 PM)rosewater Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 09:45 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 09:37 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 04:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-11-2015 11:32 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He didn't job anyone. He did the same thing anyone on this board does when they look for a better job. If you recall, the big clusterfuq in Boulder was the AD who turned it into a botched media circus show and tell...oh...yeah, he's our AD now. Never mind...

Fans sound silly when they cry about coaches leaving. No coach switches jobs without pissing fans off. Can anyone really argue Dantonio, Kelly and Jones did not make the right move? Every fan base does it and it all sounds like it is read from the same script. In the moment it makes sense since the emotions are so strong and fresh...but years later? It's like some are jilted ex girlfriends still.

Speaking of BK, looks like he still thinks about us. Check out the helmets in his basement.

It is interesting that the helmet happens to be the cursed white one. You know the one introduced before the game he ditched, the Sugar Bowl.

If you look carefully the black one is right next to it.

In all fairness, I have given BK a pass on his end of 2009 exploits. Maybe it is the years gone by or temperament through age, but he is not my most hated coach of the three. The order goes: 1. Dantonio 2. BK 3. Butch. Dantonio left and did not coach the bowl game. If memory serves me right, he required all coaches to follow him to MSU or they would be fired. He showed no loyalty to UC. BK stepped up coached and won the bowl game. BK also left, but I think it was a struggle for him. He left some coaches to work the bowl game. I never got the feeling that he used us to the greatest extent and quickly moved on. Lastly, I have no problem with Butch. The interview process did not sit well, however that is the nature of the beast. Someone also mentioned that he keeps UC gear in his Tenn office. I think that means something.

(08-13-2015 01:14 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  At this point, who cares? All three of those guys are responsible for building and/or maintaining UC Football while they were here. Without Dantonio and Kelly, where exactly is UC Football? I'm guessing in worse shape.

I don't recall anyone feeling bad for coaching staffs when they're fired in the middle of a season or prior to the bowl game for poor performance. That tends to leave the program in total disarray too.

(08-13-2015 01:14 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  At this point, who cares? All three of those guys are responsible for building and/or maintaining UC Football while they were here. Without Dantonio and Kelly, where exactly is UC Football? I'm guessing in worse shape.

I don't recall anyone feeling bad for coaching staffs when they're fired in the middle of a season or prior to the bowl game for poor performance. That tends to leave the program in total disarray too.

(08-13-2015 01:19 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 01:14 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  At this point, who cares? All three of those guys are responsible for building and/or maintaining UC Football while they were here. Without Dantonio and Kelly, where exactly is UC Football? I'm guessing in worse shape.

I don't recall anyone feeling bad for coaching staffs when they're fired in the middle of a season or prior to the bowl game for poor performance. That tends to leave the program in total disarray too.

I remember a few people being upset when we fired Minter. People said we did not give him a chance to coach and recruit in the Big East. Richard Skinner said UC would never get a coach better than RM to come here.

(08-13-2015 01:14 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  At this point, who cares? All three of those guys are responsible for building and/or maintaining UC Football while they were here. Without Dantonio and Kelly, where exactly is UC Football? I'm guessing in worse shape.

I don't recall anyone feeling bad for coaching staffs when they're fired in the middle of a season or prior to the bowl game for poor performance. That tends to leave the program in total disarray too.

(08-13-2015 02:23 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  So can I take this to mean you feel bad for Michigan firing Rich Rod or Hoke?

(08-13-2015 04:43 PM)BearcatnKY Wrote:  I don't think you can call it "meaningless bowl season" to a 12-0 team playing a nationally known powerhouse Florida at the time. Sure, it might not of made a difference in outcome. But if it did UC's perception may be slightly different today.

(08-13-2015 04:05 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 02:23 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  So can I take this to mean you feel bad for Michigan firing Rich Rod or Hoke?

No, you should take it to mean that coaches leave voluntarily and involuntarily all the time.

You can't get mad at coaches who leave before the regular season or meaningless bowl season ends when schools fire coaching staffs during the same time period on a regular basis.

As long as the coach or school fulfills the obligations of the contract (read: pays the buyout), everything is fine in my book.

(07-31-2015 11:05 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Vols will be good this year and very good in 16'. He's getting it done.

(08-13-2015 04:46 PM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  

(08-13-2015 04:43 PM)BearcatnKY Wrote:  I don't think you can call it "meaningless bowl season" to a 12-0 team playing a nationally known powerhouse Florida at the time. Sure, it might not of made a difference in outcome. But if it did UC's perception may be slightly different today.

I wasn't referencing that game in particular, but I consider the championship game (and now playoff games) the only game that really mattered. Every other game during the bowl season was just consolation.