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Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - BE4evah - 06-30-2015 04:35 PM
David Sittler says Houston is the Big 12's choice.
Sittler is the most connected journalist in Oklahoma and close to David Boren.
If he says it, take it to the bank.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - CougarRed - 06-30-2015 04:43 PM
He went on Tulsa radio today and said Houston and Cincy were the top candidates.
Last weekend, he tweeted something similar.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - MWC Tex - 06-30-2015 04:50 PM
So....we have until midnight then for Cincy and UH to give notice to the AAC? July 1st delays for another year.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Dasville - 06-30-2015 04:55 PM
who says they haven't?
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Okielite - 06-30-2015 04:56 PM
Sounds like a realistic choice. At some point you have to think they said look we simply can't take on a directional school, a west coast bible school, or UConn. We need to focus on the schools willing to compete at this level that make some geographic sense. Schools who spend p-5 money on coaches. Schools who are upgrading facilities. Cinci is an obvious choice. Houston is a little rough around the edges but has many things going for it including existing Big 12 fans in the area to help attendance. If that's how it works out the real question is how do we do divisions or do we do away with that and have a couple of permanent games and rotate the rest so the top 2 can meet in a CCG.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - BE4evah - 06-30-2015 04:57 PM
The general thought was either UCF or Memphis would be Cincy's partner. This is like a thunderbolt. This guy is the real deal.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Okielite - 06-30-2015 05:03 PM
(06-30-2015 04:57 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The general thought was either UCF or Memphis would be Cincy's partner. This is like a thunderbolt. This guy is the real deal.
Aside form geography Memphis never made any sense. They literally just jumped form C-USA to AAC. Even the BE/AAC didn't want them until schools like Tulsa and Tulane got the call. That speaks volumes. Everyone like to pretend that their "david" school can conquer a "Goliath" conference. Its just not realistic. Long term winning like Louisville and WVU did in the BE will get you an invite. Not a bad run in C-USA and mediocre bowl win against BYU.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Cyniclone - 06-30-2015 05:09 PM
I look forward to epic Bengals-Texans games in the Big 12
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - The Cutter of Bish - 06-30-2015 05:11 PM
How many and which AAC schools have to leave to nuke that tv deal they have?
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - DavidSt - 06-30-2015 05:13 PM
Houston is a no go. They already said no more Texas schools. The top 4 choices are Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis and UCF. Northern Illinois, Colorado State, USF and North Dakota State are ahead of Houston in the pecking order. Unless Houston being brought in and Texas leaving the Big 12 would be the only logical thinking.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Okielite - 06-30-2015 05:16 PM
(06-30-2015 05:13 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Houston is a no go. They already said no more Texas schools. The top 4 choices are Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis and UCF. Northern Illinois, Colorado State, USF and North Dakota State are ahead of Houston in the pecking order. Unless Houston being brought in and Texas leaving the Big 12 would be the only logical thinking.I really enjoy your post STD. Thanks for the laughs.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - HawkeyeCoug - 06-30-2015 05:16 PM
(06-30-2015 04:57 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The general thought was either UCF or Memphis would be Cincy's partner. This is like a thunderbolt. This guy is the real deal.
It certainly could happen that Houston and Cincy get the invites. But, looking at attendance, they averaged 28,311 and 28,840 in attendance last year. Both teams had winning seasons, went to bowl games, and Cincy tied for the conference title while Houston was in contention into November. They had relatively successful seasons, and still did not average over 30K.
There is a school that had their two best players injured and played Savannah St. in November in a rather meaningless game. Yet the game still had more in attendance than the average attendance of Cincy and Houston combined. Any guess at who that school might be?
If they get the bids I would certainly congratulate Houston and Cincy. But, it sure seems like a small-time addition when their is a much bigger name available that will draw well both in good times and bad.
Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expan... - CurveItAround - 06-30-2015 05:35 PM
(06-30-2015 04:56 PM)Okielite Wrote: Sounds like a realistic choice. At some point you have to think they said look we simply can't take on a directional school, a west coast bible school, or UConn. We need to focus on the schools willing to compete at this level that make some geographic sense. Schools who spend p-5 money on coaches. Schools who are upgrading facilities. Cinci is an obvious choice. Houston is a little rough around the edges but has many things going for it including existing Big 12 fans in the area to help attendance. If that's how it works out the real question is how do we do divisions or do we do away with that and have a couple of permanent games and rotate the rest so the top 2 can meet in a CCG.
Does it get any more directional than a school named after a city?
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - CougarRed - 06-30-2015 05:37 PM
(06-30-2015 05:13 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Houston is a no go. They already said no more Texas schools. The top 4 choices are Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis and UCF. Northern Illinois, Colorado State, USF and North Dakota State are ahead of Houston in the pecking order.
And David Boren's mouthpiece just said Houston tops the list.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - BigHouston - 06-30-2015 05:38 PM
(06-30-2015 05:16 PM)HawkeyeCoug Wrote:(06-30-2015 04:57 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The general thought was either UCF or Memphis would be Cincy's partner. This is like a thunderbolt. This guy is the real deal.
It certainly could happen that Houston and Cincy get the invites. But, looking at attendance, they averaged 28,311 and 28,840 in attendance last year. Both teams had winning seasons, went to bowl games, and Cincy tied for the conference title while Houston was in contention into November. They had relatively successful seasons, and still did not average over 30K.
There is a school that had their two best players injured and played Savannah St. in November in a rather meaningless game. Yet the game still had more in attendance than the average attendance of Cincy and Houston combined. Any guess at who that school might be?
If they get the bids I would certainly congratulate Houston and Cincy. But, it sure seems like a small-time addition when their is a much bigger name available that will draw well both in good times and bad.
Relax manNothing has being confirmed, I'm sure we'll hear other names along the way. And even if Houston was one of the chosen ones, HOUSTON is no small time.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Titans3775 - 06-30-2015 05:38 PM
(06-30-2015 05:03 PM)Okielite Wrote:(06-30-2015 04:57 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The general thought was either UCF or Memphis would be Cincy's partner. This is like a thunderbolt. This guy is the real deal.
Aside form geography Memphis never made any sense. They literally just jumped form C-USA to AAC. Even the BE/AAC didn't want them until schools like Tulsa and Tulane got the call. That speaks volumes. Everyone like to pretend that their "david" school can conquer a "Goliath" conference. Its just not realistic. Long term winning like Louisville and WVU did in the BE will get you an invite. Not a bad run in C-USA and mediocre bowl win against BYU.
You should probably look up Memphis' basketball and football recent history. Memphis and Cincinnati are Louisville clones on top of being a 3 way rivalry. It would not be very hard for either to be in the top half of the Big 12 in both sports.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - He1nousOne - 06-30-2015 05:43 PM
(06-30-2015 05:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:(06-30-2015 05:13 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Houston is a no go. They already said no more Texas schools. The top 4 choices are Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis and UCF. Northern Illinois, Colorado State, USF and North Dakota State are ahead of Houston in the pecking order.
And David Boren's mouthpiece just said Houston tops the list.
That doesn't mean anything ON the list is good enough. That just means that Houston and Cincy are on top of that list. Wordplay.
Something else for you to learn, mouthpieces say anything their masters tell them to. That doesn't always mean it's the truth and as I just said, that doesn't mean what they say means what you want it to mean.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Dr. Isaly von Yinzer - 06-30-2015 05:47 PM
Houston seems like an odd choice at first blush. However, I could see them being Texas's choice. In exchange for the league going to 12 teams, they get a little more control of the league but placate everyone else by adding two more schools.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - Dasville - 06-30-2015 05:51 PM
(06-30-2015 05:43 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:If everyone is getting turned down, shouldn't Houston be the closest one making it? If they only had a partner that made $ense!(06-30-2015 05:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:(06-30-2015 05:13 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Houston is a no go. They already said no more Texas schools. The top 4 choices are Cincinnati, East Carolina, Memphis and UCF. Northern Illinois, Colorado State, USF and North Dakota State are ahead of Houston in the pecking order.
And David Boren's mouthpiece just said Houston tops the list.
That doesn't mean anything ON the list is good enough. That just means that Houston and Cincy are on top of that list. Wordplay.
Something else for you to learn, mouthpieces say anything their masters tell them to. That doesn't always mean it's the truth and as I just said, that doesn't mean what they say means what you want it to mean.
RE: Sittler, formerly of Tulsa World, close with Boren: Houston atop Big 12 expansion l - UConn-SMU - 06-30-2015 05:59 PM
(06-30-2015 05:16 PM)HawkeyeCoug Wrote:(06-30-2015 04:57 PM)BE4evah Wrote: The general thought was either UCF or Memphis would be Cincy's partner. This is like a thunderbolt. This guy is the real deal.
It certainly could happen that Houston and Cincy get the invites. But, looking at attendance, they averaged 28,311 and 28,840 in attendance last year. Both teams had winning seasons, went to bowl games, and Cincy tied for the conference title while Houston was in contention into November. They had relatively successful seasons, and still did not average over 30K.
There is a school that had their two best players injured and played Savannah St. in November in a rather meaningless game. Yet the game still had more in attendance than the average attendance of Cincy and Houston combined. Any guess at who that school might be?
If they get the bids I would certainly congratulate Houston and Cincy. But, it sure seems like a small-time addition when their is a much bigger name available that will draw well both in good times and bad.
UConn was selling out (40,000+) when they were going to bowls.