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Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - Eagleditka - 05-26-2015 09:16 PM http://csnbbs.com/thread-737988.html Radio interview with Arkansas St's basketball coach makes it seem like a done deal. Georgia Southern's AD hinted at EKU and Coastal being added during a recent talk. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - PirateTreasureNC - 05-26-2015 09:31 PM (05-26-2015 09:16 PM)Eagleditka Wrote: http://csnbbs.com/thread-737988.html Would Coastal be a "full member" or will their football still be FCS? Would it be better for them to pursue UAB? RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - canewton - 05-26-2015 09:45 PM Hah, no Liberty. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - HawaiiMongoose - 05-26-2015 09:54 PM I listened to the interview with John Brady (Arkansas State's coach). He just returned from a meeting of Sun Belt basketball coaches and reported that EKU and Coastal Carolina were discussed as possible expansion candidates. However he was quick to add that expansion decisions are made by the school presidents with input from the ADs and that the coaches don't have a vote. He didn't say anything about what sports EKU and/or Coastal Carolina might be added for, but Karl Benson has stated previously that the Sun Belt wants to add an all-sports football-playing member to its eastern division. As for NMSU, Brady didn't bring up the subject himself but was asked about adding the Aggies for all sports; he replied that he and the Arkansas State administration would support that, but there are concerns among other Sun Belt members and the conference leadership about travel to Las Cruces and that the focus is on expanding within the Sun Belt's current footprint. That's consistent with what Benson has said publicly, so this just reinforces that NMSU is still off the table. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - jdgaucho - 05-26-2015 10:03 PM That's gotta make the remaining WAC members feel a whole lot better, huh Mongoose? You think the Aggies would leave them high and dry without a warm body replacement? RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - Kittonhead - 05-26-2015 10:09 PM Coastal Carolina how about that. The key here is they bring another state in South Carolina to the SBC. The SBC by moving to 14 all sport schools is playing the CUSA game....strength and stability with numbers. The conference goes out and signs a long term TV deal with 14 members it doesn't have to worry too much about losing a school or two to poaching. If there were major defections NMSU, AState, ULL out of the SBC having Coastal and EKU would make it more attractive for a Virginia school down the road. The future idea of CUSA becoming SW based and SBC SE based becomes more possible. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - Kittonhead - 05-26-2015 10:17 PM (05-26-2015 09:54 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote: I listened to the interview with John Brady (Arkansas State's coach). He just returned from a meeting of Sun Belt basketball coaches and reported that EKU and Coastal Carolina were discussed as possible expansion candidates. However he was quick to add that expansion decisions are made by the school presidents with input from the ADs and that the coaches don't have a vote. He didn't say anything about what sports EKU and/or Coastal Carolina might be added for, but Karl Benson has stated previously that the Sun Belt wants to add an all-sports football-playing member to its eastern division. Then if the expansion is just to 12 schools it might be Coastal since they have more contemporary facilities than EKU. That Coastal stadium can be bumped up to 20,000 seats for FBS play at a cost of around 10 million since the bones of the stadium are already there. Georgia Southern made a nice expansion of its stadium moving into FBS so the possibility of a similar model is there with Coastal. Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - chargeradio - 05-26-2015 10:50 PM So, if this is true: NMSU Texas State/Texas-Arlington Arkansas State/Arkansas-Little Rock Louisiana/Louisiana-Monroe South Alabama/Troy Georgia State/Georgia Southern App State/Coastal Carolina Eastern Kentucky I'd have a hard time believing NMSU as an all sports member unless if Louisiana, Arkansas State, or Texas State are as good as gone. I'd also think there would be only one of EKU or CCU added. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - Kittonhead - 05-26-2015 10:56 PM Time for a Myrtle Beach thread. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - Stay Cool - 05-26-2015 11:24 PM Haha it has come full circle with the coastal carolina call out post a while back... RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - HawaiiMongoose - 05-26-2015 11:59 PM (05-26-2015 10:03 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: That's gotta make the remaining WAC members feel a whole lot better, huh Mongoose? You think the Aggies would leave them high and dry without a warm body replacement? No question jd. If the Sun Belt offered full membership, it's safe to say NMSU would be gone from the WAC in a split second. The chance to be part of a more stable conference would trump the geography. But I think Benson meant it when he said the Sun Belt plans to stand pat with its current western division. Having two Olympic sports members in east Texas, two in Arkansas and two in Louisiana is a nice comfortable arrangement. The gap is in the conference's eastern division and adding either EKU or Coastal Carolina will fill it. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - jdgaucho - 05-27-2015 12:52 AM (05-26-2015 11:59 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(05-26-2015 10:03 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: That's gotta make the remaining WAC members feel a whole lot better, huh Mongoose? You think the Aggies would leave them high and dry without a warm body replacement? So the football-only arrangements remain in place for Idaho and NMSU. I can roll with that. Adding just one of the members in question would get the Sun Belt to 12 football teams, 12 full members (assuming no one is poached). So the travel partners would go something like this then? West: UT Arlington - Texas State. UALR - Arkansas State. Louisiana Lafayette - Louisiana Monroe East: Georgia State - Georgia Southern Troy - South Alabama Appalachian State - Coastal / EKU If I had to choose between the two I would go with Coastal Carolina. Not only do they give Belt basketball a boost, they also provide a boost for men's soccer RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - DavidSt - 05-27-2015 01:23 AM (05-27-2015 12:52 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:(05-26-2015 11:59 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(05-26-2015 10:03 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: That's gotta make the remaining WAC members feel a whole lot better, huh Mongoose? You think the Aggies would leave them high and dry without a warm body replacement? Okay, if you want New Mexico State in as a full member? They need a travel partner. West Texas A&M/New Mexico State? Then if UTA adds football? UTA/Texas State Now, you have a long space between Arlington to the Louisiana schools. Lamar/SE Oklahoma State? Southeastern Oklahoma State have over a 10000 seat stadium. Not much more to be added to 15,000 seat. If UALR don't add football, have them leave the conference and add either Central Arkansas or Jackson State. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - jdgaucho - 05-27-2015 02:40 AM New Mexico State can work as a full member but they would also throw a wrench into the travel pairings. San Marcos (Texas State) and Arlington (UTA) are both over 600 miles away from them. Assuming no other change to current membership, you'd likely have to match them up with either UTA or Texas State. The pairings as whole get ugly after that and either Louisiana Lafayette or Louisiana Monroe moves from west to east; the extra time and distance matters. My best guess at 12:30 in the morning if the Sun Belt was determined to add NMSU as a full member West: New Mexico State - Texas State UT Arlington - UA Little Rock Louisiana Monroe - Arkansas State East: Louisiana Lafayette - South Alabama Troy - Georgia Southern Georgia State - Appalachian State Doable, but ugly. Which is why I guess NMSU's full membership won't happen unless someone is poached from the western side. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - HawaiiMongoose - 05-27-2015 04:28 AM (05-27-2015 02:40 AM)jdgaucho Wrote: New Mexico State can work as a full member but they would also throw a wrench into the travel pairings. San Marcos (Texas State) and Arlington (UTA) are both over 600 miles away from them. Assuming no other change to current membership, you'd likely have to match them up with either UTA or Texas State. The pairings as whole get ugly after that and either Louisiana Lafayette or Louisiana Monroe moves from west to east; the extra time and distance matters. My best guess at 12:30 in the morning if the Sun Belt was determined to add NMSU as a full member Exactly. It only makes sense if the Sun Belt loses a western member, or decides to go to 14 in Olympic sports. In the latter case, NMSU could be given full membership in the west, EKU could be given full membership in the east, and Coastal Carolina could be added as a non-football member in the east (but would then need to find a home for its FCS football team). West: New Mexico State Texas State - UT Arlington UA Little Rock - Arkansas State Louisiana Monroe - Louisana Lafayette East: South Alabama - Troy Georgia Southern - Georgia State EKU - Appalachian State Coastal Carolina RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - prp - 05-27-2015 08:07 AM I expect the Sun Belt to wait until UAB's situation is resolved before making any moves. That applies to other conferences too like the Big South and SoCon. The Atlantic Sun might still make a move though since they can add schools now and still have room for a potential UAB addition later. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - GSU Eagles - 05-27-2015 08:10 AM Could be a trial balloon to see if Missouri St and JMU panic. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - MWC Tex - 05-27-2015 08:13 AM (05-26-2015 09:16 PM)Eagleditka Wrote: http://csnbbs.com/thread-737988.html I didn't get that impression at all. Sure their names were mentioned as well as Missouri St (Which would be the best candidate). There are too many eastern Sunbelt schools who still want to act like a FCS league even though they made a jump to FBS. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - JMU2004 - 05-27-2015 08:36 AM (05-27-2015 08:10 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote: Could be a trial balloon to see if Missouri St and JMU panic. My guess as well. Massive dropoffs from JMU to EKU and CCU, from facilities to support to budgets. Liberty rumors didn't flush us out, so I doubt CCU has our AD's knees shaking. RE: Coastal Carolina and EKU to Sun Belt, NMSU full membership - ARSTATEFAN1986 - 05-27-2015 08:38 AM There could be an agreement between the east and west schools that the west would agree to which school the east wants if they also bring in NMSU as a full member. The west schools wanted NMSU as a full member last time. The other east school could be added in a couple of years when Missouri State is ready. If the SBC is raided by CUSA for one team, then Idaho could be dropped to keep the balance. East Appalachian State Coastal Carolina Georgia Southern Georgia State South Alabama Troy West Arkansas State Idaho (football only) Louisiana Lafayette Louisiana Monroe New Mexico State Texas State Later ... East Appalachian State Coastal Carolina Eastern Kentucky Georgia Southern Georgia State South Alabama Troy Arkansas State Idaho (football only) Louisiana Lafayette Louisiana Monroe Missouri State New Mexico State Texas State Eventually Oly Appalachian State Arkansas Little Rock Arkansas State Coastal Carolina Eastern Kentucky Georgia Southern Georgia State Louisiana Lafayette Louisiana Monroe Missouri State New Mexico State South Alabama Texas Arlington Texas State Troy |