(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

(05-08-2015 10:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Hit the nail on the head. When ECU was in CUSA, they had the same problem...and still do. It's hard to contend with the storied programs of UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest. We have a similar issue because we are relatively close to UK and Ohio State.

I would think that App and Georgia Southern have the luxury (from what I can tell) of being off on an island, so they kind of dominate their niche in their states. I don't think there is another FBS school anywhere close to Statesboro or Boone is there?

(05-08-2015 10:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Hit the nail on the head. When ECU was in CUSA, they had the same problem...and still do. It's hard to contend with the storied programs of UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest. We have a similar issue because we are relatively close to UK and Ohio State.

I would think that App and Georgia Southern have the luxury (from what I can tell) of being off on an island, so they kind of dominate their niche in their states. I don't think there is another FBS school anywhere close to Statesboro or Boone is there?

(05-08-2015 10:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Hit the nail on the head. When ECU was in CUSA, they had the same problem...and still do. It's hard to contend with the storied programs of UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest. We have a similar issue because we are relatively close to UK and Ohio State.

I would think that App and Georgia Southern have the luxury (from what I can tell) of being off on an island, so they kind of dominate their niche in their states. I don't think there is another FBS school anywhere close to Statesboro or Boone is there?

(05-08-2015 10:53 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Hit the nail on the head. When ECU was in CUSA, they had the same problem...and still do. It's hard to contend with the storied programs of UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest. We have a similar issue because we are relatively close to UK and Ohio State.

I would think that App and Georgia Southern have the luxury (from what I can tell) of being off on an island, so they kind of dominate their niche in their states. I don't think there is another FBS school anywhere close to Statesboro or Boone is there?

Not a single FBS school within a 190 mile radius of Statesboro.

(05-08-2015 10:55 AM)FLEagle Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Hit the nail on the head. When ECU was in CUSA, they had the same problem...and still do. It's hard to contend with the storied programs of UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest. We have a similar issue because we are relatively close to UK and Ohio State.

I would think that App and Georgia Southern have the luxury (from what I can tell) of being off on an island, so they kind of dominate their niche in their states. I don't think there is another FBS school anywhere close to Statesboro or Boone is there?

It's getting better, but south Georgia is still dominated by UGA fans.

(05-08-2015 10:06 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  UAB Bringing football back. Not only would it be awful for a school at our level to have to drop football, especially while being forced by a bigger instate school essentially, the cynical part of us should consider something.

1. Charlotte is probably already going to suck next year...While they'll get better, it will take time.
2. If UAB brings football back for 2016...It won't be very pretty to watch on the field for a couple years.

Having two bad teams in the league and potentially more in the league bring down CUSA's ranking in the Power ratings, which means more money for the Sun Belt at the end of each year to greedily divide up among ourselves while not sharing with UTA and UALR.

If UAB football returns, not only do we gain an ally back in the fight against the Big Boys...but we also get a monetary boost until they can get their house in order.

Does this make me cynical for hoping to profit off one school's misfortune, or rather an evil genius...I need a ruling?

(05-08-2015 11:13 AM)moehler Wrote:  wow, forgot Marshall is in the backyard of Ohio State, that's tough

(05-08-2015 10:58 AM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 10:19 AM)moehler Wrote:  tough to see UAB bringing back anytime soon, the "great, almighty" Alabama has spoken!!! UNCC, is going to get better, but its going to take probably 3 or 4 years before they start gaining any respectability. UNCC has learned a hard lesson, they thought that they would immediately dominate the Charlotte market, and become "the darlings" of the area, maybe even replace the ACC teams, but, predictably, it hasn't happen, the ACC still dominates the market, even App and ECU, seem to have a bigger presence, you can make a case that their own alumi seem to be losing interest, and it doesn't appear the students have jumped on board, and really support the program. Winning against quality programs would go a long way to fixing a lot of their problems, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Hit the nail on the head. When ECU was in CUSA, they had the same problem...and still do. It's hard to contend with the storied programs of UNC, Duke, NC State, and Wake Forest. We have a similar issue because we are relatively close to UK and Ohio State.

I would think that App and Georgia Southern have the luxury (from what I can tell) of being off on an island, so they kind of dominate their niche in their states. I don't think there is another FBS school anywhere close to Statesboro or Boone is there?

Winston Salem (Wake Forest) is 86 miles away, so that's about it.

(05-08-2015 11:43 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Guys, I don't see why we need CUSA to implode for us to do well. The Belt has 3 dogs (but two of them can be handed walking papers if they don't produce).

CUSA has plenty of dogs too.

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The Bowl situation has resolved itself. Now all we need to do is to fix basketball and start winning some more OOC games. For USA that means beating NC State at home. Ark State? Beat Mizzou at home.

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I remain unconvinced that UAB will be bringing football back. Some of y'all don't understand exactly how arrogant and completely unaccountable the UAT Board is. And with a total Bamer in the Governor's mansion (Bentley - who has a son working at Bryant Bank), I'm unconvinced you'll see much pressure from the state level.