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FB/BB coach combo - stever20 - 03-30-2015 09:36 AM
Just saw a picture of Dantonio and Izzo seeing each other after the win by Izzo yesterday to get to the final 4...
Is there a better FB/BB coach combo than those 2?
just thinking some candidates- other final 4 coaches:
Coach K/Cutcliffe @ Duke
Ryan/Chryst @ Wisconsin
Calipari/Mark Stoops @ Kentucky
others:
Matta/Meyer @ Ohio St
Krueger/Bob Stoops @ Oklahoma
I'm thinking Michigan St and it's not all that close.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Hokie Mark - 03-30-2015 09:46 AM
Hard to argue against Michigan State for sure.
Arizona should also be in the conversation, as well as Notre Dame (down the list a bit, though).
RE: FB/BB coach combo - stever20 - 03-30-2015 10:01 AM
Arizona with Miller and Rich Rodriguez is interesting- down a bit though to me...
think an underrated combo now may be in Auburn with Malzahn and Pearl.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - CliftonAve - 03-30-2015 10:08 AM
Some other names:
Petriino/Pitino- Louisville
Tuberville/Cronin- Cincinnati
Briles/Drew- Baylor
Harbaugh/Beilein- michigan
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Otacon - 03-30-2015 09:09 PM
I'd say Louisville and Michigan State
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Maize - 03-30-2015 09:16 PM
1. Dantonio/Izzo Michigan State Dantonio won a BCS/CFP Bowl/Izzo a NCAA Title for MSU
2. Petrino/Pitino Louisville Petrino won a BCS/CFP Bowl/Pitino a NCAA Title for UofL
3. Meyer/Matta Ohio State Meyer won CFP Title/Matta went to a Final Four tOSU
4. Stoops/Kruger Oklahoma Stoops won a BCS Title/Kruger took them to Sweet Sixteen
5. Rodriquez/Miller Arizona
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Dasville - 03-30-2015 09:22 PM
Mack Brown & Rick Barnes
They weren't bad.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Wedge - 03-30-2015 09:24 PM
A sportswriter mentioned on Twitter earlier that until firing Mack Brown, Texas had gone the longest with the same FB/MBB head coaching pair in FBS (Barnes and Brown both hired in 1998).
Currently, BYU has gone longer than any other FBS school since last changing FB or MBB head coaches (Mendenhall and Rose both hired in 2005).
RE: FB/BB coach combo - He1nousOne - 03-30-2015 10:42 PM
(03-30-2015 09:09 PM)Otacon Wrote: I'd say Louisville and Michigan State
This.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - stever20 - 03-30-2015 10:47 PM
I think you could make a real serious case for Ohio St. Meyer much better football coach than Izzo or Pitino, and Matta is right up there with Dantonio and Petrino I think.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Maize - 03-30-2015 10:51 PM
(03-30-2015 10:47 PM)stever20 Wrote: I think you could make a real serious case for Ohio St. Meyer much better football coach than Izzo or Pitino, and Matta is right up there with Dantonio and Petrino I think.
Pitino took Providence, Kentucky and Louisville to the Final Four and won NCAA Titles at Kentucky and Lousville and is in the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame...Meyer is Great but Pitino creditionals are incredible...not to mention in his first stint in the NBA the Knicks won a Division Title...7 Final Fours as a Coach with 2 Titles at Different Schools and a Atlantic Division NBA Title for the Knicks...
RE: FB/BB coach combo - stever20 - 03-30-2015 11:27 PM
Knicks stint doesn't really count in college coaching. Meyer has 3 titles also with 2 teams. And Matta stronger than Petrino. Meyer would be in the college football hall of fame if the requirements were the same as the basketball hall of fame.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Wedge - 03-30-2015 11:35 PM
It's almost too close to call between Michigan State and Louisville, IMO.
Sean Miller is a very good coach, but can't be in this conversation until he takes a team to at least one Final Four. For that matter, a coach that has only been to one Final Four, like Kruger or Matta, should be barely at the outer edge of this discussion, given what Izzo and Pitino have done.
If you were going to include very well-respected coaches with no signature accomplishments as a head coach (like Sean Miller), then you might as well include David Cutcliffe and put Duke on your list. But I wouldn't go that far.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Maize - 03-30-2015 11:38 PM
(03-30-2015 11:27 PM)stever20 Wrote: Knicks stint doesn't really count in college coaching. Meyer has 3 titles also with 2 teams. And Matta stronger than Petrino. Meyer would be in the college football hall of fame if the requirements were the same as the basketball hall of fame.
Matta has one Final Four in his Career...Petrino has taken two different programs to BCS/CFP Bowl Games and has also won a Cotton Bowl....Petrino had two Double Digit Regular Season Winning years at Louisville-(2004 & 2006) and Arkansas-(2010 & 2011) in the Rugged SEC West with Bama, Auburn and LSU.
Slight correction on Pitino...he is in the Main Basketball Hall of Fame with people like Moses Malone, Red Auerbach, Dr. J, Magic Johnson etc...etc.
Also, Dantonio is stronger then Matta...won the Cotton Bowl last year and the Rose Bowl the year before
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Maize - 03-30-2015 11:41 PM
(03-30-2015 11:35 PM)Wedge Wrote: It's almost too close to call between Michigan State and Louisville, IMO.
Sean Miller is a very good coach, but can't be in this conversation until he takes a team to at least one Final Four. For that matter, a coach that has only been to one Final Four, like Kruger or Matta, should be barely at the outer edge of this discussion, given what Izzo and Pitino have done.
If you were going to include very well-respected coaches with no signature accomplishments as a head coach (like Sean Miller), then you might as well include David Cutcliffe and put Duke on your list. But I wouldn't go that far.
I would go with Michigan State...Pitino/Izzo are IMO Equal but Dantonio has the slight edge on Petrino.
Good point on Duke with Coach K & Cutcliffe.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - CougarRed - 03-31-2015 06:38 AM
For awhile in the late 1980s, Duke had K and Spurrier.
More recently, Florida had Donovan & Meyer.
Re: RE: FB/BB coach combo - DexterDevil - 03-31-2015 07:15 AM
(03-30-2015 10:47 PM)stever20 Wrote: I think you could make a real serious case for Ohio St. Meyer much better football coach than Izzo or Pitino, and Matta is right up there with Dantonio and Petrino I think.
I would sure hope Meyer is a better football coach than Izzo or Pitino
RE: FB/BB coach combo - goofus - 03-31-2015 07:17 AM
Ok, minimum requirements are BB coach has made it to a final 4. FB coach has won a BCS/committee Bowl. Combined At least 1 national championship at their current school, between the 2 coaches. The 3 leading candidates are
1. Ohio state
Meyer - 3 national titles at 2 different schools.. BCS bowls at 3 different schools
Matta - 2 final 4's, 1 national runner-up
2. Mich State
Dantonio - 2 BCS bowl wins
Izzo - 1 national title, 7 final 4's
3. Louisville
Petrino - BCS bowls at 2 different schools.
Pitino - 2 national championships art 2 different schools. 7 Final 4's at 3 different schools.
I think I have to give it to Ohio State. Meyer's, Izzo's and Pitino's records are all incredible, but Meyer has 3 national championships.
Dantonio and Petrino are great, but Matta has made it to the National championship game.
Winner: Ohio State
RE: FB/BB coach combo - Maize - 03-31-2015 08:03 AM
(03-31-2015 07:17 AM)goofus Wrote: Ok, minimum requirements are BB coach has made it to a final 4. FB coach has won a BCS/committee Bowl. Combined At least 1 national championship at their current school, between the 2 coaches. The 3 leading candidates are
1. Ohio state
Meyer - 3 national titles at 2 different schools.. BCS bowls at 3 different schools
Matta - 2 final 4's, 1 national runner-up
2. Mich State
Dantonio - 2 BCS bowl wins
Izzo - 1 national title, 7 final 4's
3. Louisville
Petrino - BCS bowls at 2 different schools.
Pitino - 2 national championships art 2 different schools. 7 Final 4's at 3 different schools.
I think I have to give it to Ohio State. Meyer's, Izzo's and Pitino's records are all incredible, but Meyer has 3 national championships.
Dantonio and Petrino are great, but Matta has made it to the National championship game.
Winner: Ohio State
Very good breakdown...forgot about the 2nd Matta Final Four...it appears those 3 Schools are the runaway winners in the Revenue Sports Head Coaching Success Rate.
RE: FB/BB coach combo - stever20 - 03-31-2015 08:24 AM
would also add Matta has 2 more elite 8's as well(which is the equiv of a BCS bowl imo).
Izzo has 2 more.
Pitino has 5 more.
so
Ohio St- Meyer 3 titles, also 3 other BCS bowls- 2 wins/Matta 1 runner up, 2 final 4's, 4 elite 8's
Mich St- D'Antonio 2 BCS bowls-2 wins/Izzo 1 title, 1 runner up, 5 final 4's, 9 elite 8's
Louisville- Petrino 2 BCS Bowls- 1 win/Pitino 2 titles, 1 runner up, 7 final 4's, 12 elite 8's
So
Ohio St's coaches- 10 BCS/Elite 8 seasons, 3 titles
Mich St's coaches- 11 BCS/Elite 8 seasons, 1 title
Louisville's coaches- 14 BCS/Elite 8 seasons, 2 titles