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Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - msm96wolf - 03-11-2015 12:34 PM
http://arkansasstate.scout.com/story/1526128-little-rock-bowl-not-done-but-closer#/story/1526128-little-rock-bowl-not-done-but-closer
I imagine that CBSSPORTS may be bidding since the already have the Orlando Cure Bowl with the SB vs AAC
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - quo vadis - 03-11-2015 12:38 PM
(03-11-2015 12:34 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: http://arkansasstate.scout.com/story/1526128-little-rock-bowl-not-done-but-closer#/story/1526128-little-rock-bowl-not-done-but-closer
I imagine that CBSSPORTS may be bidding since the already have the Orlando Cure Bowl with the SB vs AAC
WOW, this would be a BIG coup for our conference. GO AAC!
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Carolina_Low_Country - 03-11-2015 12:51 PM
Is the cure bowl on CBS Sports Network or will it be on CBS? If it is just CBS Sports Network, that's terrible for the schools playing in that bowl. The whole goal is to be on national tv during your bowl game and have people watch you play. If the bowl game is on CBS Sports Network no one is going to know about it nor are they going to watch it since CBS Sports Network is not in nearly the same amount of homes as ESPN or even ESPNU/ESPNews. If it is on CBS then that's a big plus.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - msm96wolf - 03-11-2015 12:59 PM
The way I read it, I thought it was the CBS Cable, but I want say I am 100% confident. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24765083/aac-sun-belt-to-meet-in-2015-autonation-cure-bowl-on-cbs-sports-network
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - TIGER-PAUL - 03-11-2015 01:44 PM
In addition to the rumored New England Bowl?
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Georgia_Power_Company - 03-11-2015 01:44 PM
(03-11-2015 12:59 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: The way I read it, I thought it was the CBS Cable, but I want say I am 100% confident. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24765083/aac-sun-belt-to-meet-in-2015-autonation-cure-bowl-on-cbs-sports-network
You have it correct msm96wolf. The Cure Bowl will be on CBS Sports Network (cable and satellite) not on CBS.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Carolina_Low_Country - 03-11-2015 01:47 PM
(03-11-2015 01:44 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:(03-11-2015 12:59 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: The way I read it, I thought it was the CBS Cable, but I want say I am 100% confident. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24765083/aac-sun-belt-to-meet-in-2015-autonation-cure-bowl-on-cbs-sports-network
You have it correct msm96wolf. The Cure Bowl will be on CBS Sports Network (cable and satellite) not on CBS.
That's terrible for a bowl game. You know there are two many bowl games when they cannot all be on basic cable.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Carolina_Low_Country - 03-11-2015 01:48 PM
I do like the idea of the cure bowl though because Orlando is an easy place to fly in and out of and a great family vacation spot in December. Plus would like to see the new and improved Citrus Bowl.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - UConn-SMU - 03-11-2015 01:54 PM
(03-11-2015 12:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:(03-11-2015 12:34 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: http://arkansasstate.scout.com/story/1526128-little-rock-bowl-not-done-but-closer#/story/1526128-little-rock-bowl-not-done-but-closer
I imagine that CBSSPORTS may be bidding since the already have the Orlando Cure Bowl with the SB vs AAC
WOW, this would be a BIG coup for our conference. GO AAC!
Agreed.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Georgia_Power_Company - 03-11-2015 02:04 PM
(03-11-2015 12:51 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: Is the cure bowl on CBS Sports Network or will it be on CBS? If it is just CBS Sports Network, that's terrible for the schools playing in that bowl. The whole goal is to be on national tv during your bowl game and have people watch you play. If the bowl game is on CBS Sports Network no one is going to know about it nor are they going to watch it since CBS Sports Network is not in nearly the same amount of homes as ESPN or even ESPNU/ESPNews. If it is on CBS then that's a big plus.
According to CBS Sports Network they are available in 96 million households which is slightly more than ESPN.
CBS Sports Network FAQ: http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/faq/
ESPN listed here as of FEB 2015: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/02/22/list-of-how-many-homes-each-cable-network-is-in-as-of-february-2015/366230/
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Wedge - 03-11-2015 02:27 PM
(03-11-2015 02:04 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:(03-11-2015 12:51 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: Is the cure bowl on CBS Sports Network or will it be on CBS? If it is just CBS Sports Network, that's terrible for the schools playing in that bowl. The whole goal is to be on national tv during your bowl game and have people watch you play. If the bowl game is on CBS Sports Network no one is going to know about it nor are they going to watch it since CBS Sports Network is not in nearly the same amount of homes as ESPN or even ESPNU/ESPNews. If it is on CBS then that's a big plus.
According to CBS Sports Network they are available in 96 million households which is slightly more than ESPN.
CBS Sports Network FAQ: http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/faq/
ESPN listed here as of FEB 2015: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/02/22/list-of-how-many-homes-each-cable-network-is-in-as-of-february-2015/366230/
Being "available" in X number of homes only means that each of those homes could buy a package that includes CBSSN if they wanted to; doesn't mean that all of those homes have CBSSN on the package they actually subscribe to. On Comcast locally, for example, the basic "digital" package has ESPN and ESPN2, but only the packages that cost at least $10 more per month include CBSSN.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Attackcoog - 03-11-2015 02:30 PM
(03-11-2015 02:27 PM)Wedge Wrote:(03-11-2015 02:04 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:(03-11-2015 12:51 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote: Is the cure bowl on CBS Sports Network or will it be on CBS? If it is just CBS Sports Network, that's terrible for the schools playing in that bowl. The whole goal is to be on national tv during your bowl game and have people watch you play. If the bowl game is on CBS Sports Network no one is going to know about it nor are they going to watch it since CBS Sports Network is not in nearly the same amount of homes as ESPN or even ESPNU/ESPNews. If it is on CBS then that's a big plus.
According to CBS Sports Network they are available in 96 million households which is slightly more than ESPN.
CBS Sports Network FAQ: http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/faq/
ESPN listed here as of FEB 2015: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/02/22/list-of-how-many-homes-each-cable-network-is-in-as-of-february-2015/366230/
Being "available" in X number of homes only means that each of those homes could buy a package that includes CBSSN if they wanted to; doesn't mean that all of those homes have CBSSN on the package they actually subscribe to. On Comcast locally, for example, the basic "digital" package has ESPN and ESPN2, but only the packages that cost at least $10 more per month include CBSSN.
Yeah, I think it has something between 50-60 million actual subscribers. Availability and subscribers are completely different standards of measure. These articles from late 2013 (one article undated) has them at 53 million, but I think they added 2 million more last year out in Cali if I remember correctly.
http://www.fiercecable.com/story/cbs-sports-network-cracks-50m-subscribers-time-warner-cable-launch/2013-10-02
http://www.whatyoupayforsports.com/numbers/
This CBS document is old, but it highlights the significant distinction between "available to 98 million homes" and the number of actual subscribers.
http://www.cbssportsnetwork.com/sites/default/files/pdf/adsales/network_research.pdf
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - arkstfan - 03-11-2015 03:11 PM
(03-11-2015 01:44 PM)TIGER-PAUL Wrote: In addition to the rumored New England Bowl?
I have been told NE has cooled its interest upon learning that conferences expect the bowl to provide several days of entertainment for the players, events for the coaches wives and for the fans as well as discovering that G5 schools aren't quite as willing to pay as much for hotels at a bowl site as P5 schools.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - arkstfan - 03-11-2015 03:16 PM
Flight wise to Little Rock, the AAC cities with direct to Little Rock are driveable, Dallas and Houston. Of course Tulsa and Memphis are easy drives as well, New Orleans isn't a bad drive.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - BearcatJerry - 03-11-2015 03:34 PM
No.
More.
Bowls.
Period. End-of-story.
The NCAA should have put a moratorium on the creation of new bowl games a decade back or so. There is no need of all these games and all they do is diminish the really meaningful games.
Really, really, terrible idea.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - arkstfan - 03-11-2015 04:53 PM
(03-11-2015 03:34 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: No.
More.
Bowls.
Period. End-of-story.
The NCAA should have put a moratorium on the creation of new bowl games a decade back or so. There is no need of all these games and all they do is diminish the really meaningful games.
Really, really, terrible idea.
Are they going broke? If the market won't support them, they should be going broke.
Hey I'd be happy with an 8 win or conference champ requirement but when Delaney made an off the cuff remark about bumping it to 7 I'm guessing he got some hot phone calls from the membership because he walked that back pretty quickly.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - ESE84 - 03-11-2015 05:13 PM
(03-11-2015 04:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Are they going broke? If the market won't support them, they should be going broke.
Would Arkansas State play in Little Rock even when you are conference champions? I can see this bowl being very well attended when Arkansas State plays. I would hate to be the opponent; kind of like playing ULL in New Orleans.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - ValleyBoy - 03-11-2015 06:29 PM
(03-11-2015 05:13 PM)ESE84 Wrote:(03-11-2015 04:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Are they going broke? If the market won't support them, they should be going broke.
Would Arkansas State play in Little Rock even when you are conference champions? I can see this bowl being very well attended when Arkansas State plays. I would hate to be the opponent; kind of like playing ULL in New Orleans.
My understanding for this upcoming season is that NOLA has first pick out of Sun Belt bowl eligible teams followed by Mobile, Montgomery, then Orlando. Unless this order changes Little Rock would have the 5th pick. Then only rule that the Sun Belt has in place at this time is that the conference champion has to be invited to a bowl. AS conference champs Arkansas State would have to be passed over by the first 4 bowls before they could go to Little Rock.
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - BearcatJerry - 03-11-2015 07:03 PM
(03-11-2015 04:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:(03-11-2015 03:34 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: No.
More.
Bowls.
Period. End-of-story.
The NCAA should have put a moratorium on the creation of new bowl games a decade back or so. There is no need of all these games and all they do is diminish the really meaningful games.
Really, really, terrible idea.
Are they going broke? If the market won't support them, they should be going broke.
Hey I'd be happy with an 8 win or conference champ requirement but when Delaney made an off the cuff remark about bumping it to 7 I'm guessing he got some hot phone calls from the membership because he walked that back pretty quickly.
One of the reasons they are not going broke is that individual schools lose money on attending... By accepting they get charged for blocks of tickets that they end up paying for whether they sell their allotment or not. As budgets continue tighten, I'm waiting for the first school to decline an invitation because they can't justify the monetary loss. Of course most athletics departments justify it on the basis of "exposure," and coaching staffs justify it on the basis of "extra practice opportunities," but I don't think the time is far off--especially for non-Power schools when FCoA and other expenses start to take hold (like sky-rocketing coaching salaries)--where some school's BoT/BoG/Regents says "Sorry, but the cost of going to such-and-such game outweighs the benefits of the exposure of playing in Boise/Birmingham/Mobile/Little Rock, etc..."
RE: Little Rock Bowl may becoming SBC vs AAC - Carolina_Low_Country - 03-11-2015 07:21 PM
If I was the AD for EC I would think about turn downing an invite to the Little Rock Bowl. Not worth the trip because it's to far for your fans to travel to and against some random sun belt program that your fans probably haven't herd of. If it's against App St we can just both decline and go play in Raleigh and make our own money on ticket sales. Not being on ESPN kills the exposure part and not worth the money. If it was in Little Rock in an indoor stadium after Christmas against a Big 12 school then worth it. To cold in Arkansas in December for a bowl game anyway. Bowl games are suppose to be enjoyable and a fun trip. If you are traveling somewhere where it isn't going to be warm during the game and not comfortable then they should not be having a bowl game in that location.